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But then he dicked us around as he likes those Italian types, hes just a dick tease...

Yep and he played his part in helping Portugal win the Euros proper and plays regularly for Benfica a good European team. You dont get to do those things without being talented.

I would say it is below France, Netherlands and on a par with Belgum.

Carvalho, player of the tournament at the Euro U21's in 2015, played in all but one match in the 2016 Euros and played very well indicates to me that he is a very good player. In my opinion is a better option that Witsel.

Going to stop now as don't want this to turn into the Carvalho thread!

Carvalho played all the matches and minutes at the 2015 European Under-21 Championship. He was elected player of the tournament due to his performances, even though he missed the decisive attempt in the penalty shootout in the final against Sweden, with it saved by Patrik Carlgren after a 0–0 draw in Prague.[21][22][23][24][25] At UEFA Euro 2016 in France, Carvalho was suspended from Portugal's semi-final victory over Wales, but regained his place from Danilo in the final, a 1–0 win over the hosts at the Stade de France.

Where would you put the Russian league in terms of quality and competitiveness in regard to other European leagues?

But is he a better option than other players out there like Carvalho? In my opinion no. I heard Real Madrid were interested as well and did offer a contract, but then withdrew it because he dicked them around and they thought there were better options.

I hope with Koeman and Walsh the number of Niasse's and McGeady's brought into the club will fall dramatically. I think Witsel is talented but I think he hasn't proved himself. He took the easy option of going to Russia, I just don't know if he has the desire to be successful in the UK, I just think he is someone who has coasted through his career. Hope I'm wrong and if we sign him I will cheer him on.

We make up part of Everton, we are the fans. "They", the people who know what they are doing brought you Niasse, and Mcgeady.

From what I have seen in the press he or his agent have had our offer for the last 2 weeks and has been hoping for better offers from clubs in Italy.

The fact that he doesn't believe in the project, that he is just in it for the money. I don't begrudge players earning money, as football generates so much income, also they have a finite time in which to earn money. What I do expect is that they are believe in the club and are too some degree passionate about it. He knew what the offer was but kept us waiting 3 weeks to see if a better offer came in, you know what that makes us - the back up date!

If he is he is carrying it well!

TheEvertonForum.com ‏@TheEFCForum 37m37 minutes ago Carvalho UK reps agreements finally sent over today. Should have a clearer inductions of his move early next week! 13 retweets18 likes Reply Retweet 13 Like 18 More Hope?

I don't want this mercenary anywhere near our club, haven't been that impressed with his performances in the Euro's, and as we have learnt to our cost the Russian League is not high quality.

We need a Calrvalho type player to dominate midfield.

He looked very good today, once he has settled into the team and adjusted to the Premier League I think he will be a quality player for us.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2016/Jul/Manchester-United-release-Premier-League-squad-numbers-for-201617-season.aspx

Mata has "retained" his number 8 shirt

I think he needs to be at the center of things, the teams key player in many ways. When he is just 1 player in a team I think he struggles.

Which I hope will encourage him to come to play for us

To be fair it does not say he wont be sold, only that if Mata can accept playing as part of a squad there is a place for him. I still think this will happen.

Everton's transfer theme song.

Not if its been given to Mata.

Been given the utd no 8 shirt. Looking unlikely alas.