Newty82

Bollocks!!!
You cannot put Gana in the same bracket as Schneiderlin when it comes to commitment. Schneiderlin proper ducked out when we needed him last season. Gana has his faults, but no way lacks commitment. The little bastard makes more tackles, interceptions, covers more ground, than most players in the team.
If you critics just stick to the plain raw facts about his play, you might find more people willing to listen. And less just wanting to sssh you down.
 

No. You'd take Gana because you know he'd watch your back and fight for you.
Schneiderlin might be the more talented sniper, but what's the point if he runs away as soon as the heat is on? 
I'm looking forward to what Silva gets from these two. Whatever is best for the team, that's all I'm interested in. If he can get inside Schneiderlins head and use Gana to his best, both will have a role to play for us this season.

Bollocks again.
All that 'most' on here do is defend a player who gives it his all. No one ever says he's faultless. No one ever says he never has a bad game. No one ever says he's a worldie, the best, blah blah blah...they just defend him against over the top inaccurate criticism.
And just about everyone regards Schneiderlin as a talented individual who showed several times last season to lack heart when the team needed his talent.
Which one would you take to war?

Bollocks!!!
You cannot put Gana in the same bracket as Schneiderlin when it comes to commitment. Schneiderlin proper ducked out when we needed him last season. Gana has his faults, but no way lacks commitment. The little bastard makes more tackles, interceptions, covers more ground, than most players in the team.
If you critics just stick to the plain raw facts about his play, you might find more people willing to listen. And less just wanting to sssh you down.
 

Bollocks again.
All that 'most' on here do is defend a player who gives it his all. No one ever says he's faultless. No one ever says he never has a bad game. No one ever says he's a worldie, the best, blah blah blah...they just defend him against over the top inaccurate criticism.
And just about everyone regards Schneiderlin as a talented individual who showed several times last season to lack heart when the team needed his talent.
Which one would you take to war?

Bollocks again.
All that 'most' on here do is defend a player who gives it his all. No one ever says he's faultless. No one ever says he never has a bad game. No one ever says he's a worldie, the best, blah blah blah...they just defend him against over the top inaccurate criticism.
And just about everyone regards Schneiderlin as a talented individual who showed several times last season to lack heart when the team needed his talent.
Which one would you take to war?

What could be anyone's motivation for favouring Gana over Schneiderlin? Can you two not just admit that you're in a minority for whatever reason (nothing wrong with being in a minority)? Others see things differently from you and you just roll out the (frankly quite smug "we know better than you") type of comments quoted above. I watch the game with zero pre-conceived ideas about who is the "weaker" at any given role and just comment on what I see, no "unconscious bias", no favourite player (during the game anyway) I just want them all to play well. If they all do we're cooking on gas currently, if (I think) someone falls short I'll say so.
Personally I think it's you lads who suffer from unconscious bias.

Bollocks!!!
You cannot put Gana in the same bracket as Schneiderlin when it comes to commitment. Schneiderlin proper ducked out when we needed him last season. Gana has his faults, but no way lacks commitment. The little bastard makes more tackles, interceptions, covers more ground, than most players in the team.
If you critics just stick to the plain raw facts about his play, you might find more people willing to listen. And less just wanting to sssh you down.
 

To be honest I’d prefer him on the left and richarlison on the bench, who needs goals anyways?!

I think this post highlights part of your issue. You go overboard with the criticism to the point you corner yourself then have to scrap to get out. 
I doubt many would say he lacks bottle. The bloke is titchy, built like a racing snake, yet will tackle anything that moves. He repeatedly puts on more KM per game than most players so is hardly lacking in effort. Let's just say 'etc'!
I've honestly never noticed him hiding from the ball?
I do tend to take in what people's opinions on here are regarding players, and look out for them in a game, but your stuff with Gana, I don't see a lot if it. I get the sideways passing thing but I've always seen this as what those guys do to keep possession and keep the ball moving.
All opinions I guess.

Get in that national team and get ya visa!!!
Was bizarre last season struggling for a striker yet having one who was playing CL football!!!

It's not a surprise to many of us.

I think this post highlights part of your issue. You go overboard with the criticism to the point you corner yourself then have to scrap to get out. 
I doubt many would say he lacks bottle. The bloke is titchy, built like a racing snake, yet will tackle anything that moves. He repeatedly puts on more KM per game than most players so is hardly lacking in effort. Let's just say 'etc'!
I've honestly never noticed him hiding from the ball?
I do tend to take in what people's opinions on here are regarding players, and look out for them in a game, but your stuff with Gana, I don't see a lot if it. I get the sideways passing thing but I've always seen this as what those guys do to keep possession and keep the ball moving.
All opinions I guess.

I think this post highlights part of your issue. You go overboard with the criticism to the point you corner yourself then have to scrap to get out. 
I doubt many would say he lacks bottle. The bloke is titchy, built like a racing snake, yet will tackle anything that moves. He repeatedly puts on more KM per game than most players so is hardly lacking in effort. Let's just say 'etc'!
I've honestly never noticed him hiding from the ball?
I do tend to take in what people's opinions on here are regarding players, and look out for them in a game, but your stuff with Gana, I don't see a lot if it. I get the sideways passing thing but I've always seen this as what those guys do to keep possession and keep the ball moving.
All opinions I guess.

Strange how you play a talented player in his natural position and he starts performing much better.
So bizarre eh.

With the way he is being asked to play, I doubt he'll be a 20 goals a season striker BUT, if his performances keep on, he's going to prove valuable in helping the team score more.
He keeps the defenders busy and seems to either look to hold up the ball or go out wide to receive the ball...both seem to allow our other attacking players more space centrally.
Really working his arse off for the team at the moment.

No. Many people in the game and fans see him the same way.
As always in life, a minority take a different view and shout about it at every opportunity.

It's not a surprise to many of us.

Humour is where the heart is!!!
Or something like that.

I think this post highlights part of your issue. You go overboard with the criticism to the point you corner yourself then have to scrap to get out. 
I doubt many would say he lacks bottle. The bloke is titchy, built like a racing snake, yet will tackle anything that moves. He repeatedly puts on more KM per game than most players so is hardly lacking in effort. Let's just say 'etc'!
I've honestly never noticed him hiding from the ball?
I do tend to take in what people's opinions on here are regarding players, and look out for them in a game, but your stuff with Gana, I don't see a lot if it. I get the sideways passing thing but I've always seen this as what those guys do to keep possession and keep the ball moving.
All opinions I guess.

I think this post highlights part of your issue. You go overboard with the criticism to the point you corner yourself then have to scrap to get out. 
I doubt many would say he lacks bottle. The bloke is titchy, built like a racing snake, yet will tackle anything that moves. He repeatedly puts on more KM per game than most players so is hardly lacking in effort. Let's just say 'etc'!
I've honestly never noticed him hiding from the ball?
I do tend to take in what people's opinions on here are regarding players, and look out for them in a game, but your stuff with Gana, I don't see a lot if it. I get the sideways passing thing but I've always seen this as what those guys do to keep possession and keep the ball moving.
All opinions I guess.

Nope, Palfy does too; it's just everyone else who disagrees (to varying extents).
For four managers now he's been one of the first names on the team-sheet, does that not make you think?

I give credit where it's due, even voted Jagielka motm on occasion. 
For me Gana doesn't do the basics. He plays detrimental to the flow. He hides from the ball making it that much harder going forward, surely I'm not the only one to notice that? People defend him saying he's a sitter but it's rare he plays as the DM he's the cm the one who's meant to turn the ball over yet its rare he even turns forward with the ball and rare he's involved in attacks as he gets on poor positions that no one can pass to him in or if they can he's in a position where his only option is then to play it backwards. Look at the difference when McCarthy come in, night and day. Both of them play the same position but one has a football brain and conviction. 
I find it strange more aren't on Gana's back considering his lack of bottle. Schneiderlin gets abuse all the time for not putting enough effort in yet there's so many goals were you just see Gana half arsedly jogging back. 

Sorry I just couldn't resist, you did indeed acknowledge (on occasion) when he had a good game while the Gana hatred is incomprehensible to me.