ooberman Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 doesn't sound very much like he's joining to me! http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/292254249?-11192 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I disagree. To me it sounds like the coach doesn't want his player to leave but his player WANTS to leave so is heaping praise on him: "One thing I can guarantee: the footballer was brought through the ranks at Sporting and has all the affection of the board." "We love him and want him to stay at Alvalade. Will he keep the captain’s armband? You already know the answer." I think he is on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) Personally I don't think we've seen the end of it yet. Look at what the president is actually saying; He told the Portuguese media: "The subject of Joao Moutinho is closed. "If there is any real news then the club will speak, but until now there have only been rumours in the papers. "We do not have an offer from Everton on the table." To me he is saying that he doesn't want to talk the media about the situation becasue there is nothing to talk about, if Everton make a bid then he will have something to say, but as of yet there is no media so there is no story. This story won't go away for awhile yet, if we don't get him this window we will be linked with him next window, and the window after that, until he finally leaves sporting... I'm not saying we will sign him becasue fuck knows what will happen, but the story is far from dead yet IMO Edited August 8, 2008 by jamiemaher85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 no Blue4Ever i think this one will come of but i dont belive all that stuff like my mates dad...etc thats sound then mate, im not someone who would try and get everyones hopes up on stuff like that but he did actually say that. We need to get an offer in for moutinho and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 LOL propa irelivant but it made me laf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikels Left Tezzer Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 LOL propa irelivant but it made me laf Lol faf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Z Cars Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 The Daily Mail just reported that 'Sporting will not sell at any price' Sky Sports ran the same feature :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Every player has a price. Whether we can match it as another thing. If they where refusing to sell him they would have said so when we first started chasing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1eng Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 If sporting refuse to sell they'll have one pissed off footballer at the club, he wants to come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomness Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 doesnt he have a minimum release clause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Think its about 19.7 M, but dont know if thats pounds or euro's, which had to be taken up before mid july, after that the club is under no obligationl to accept a lower offer, but then again if the player turns around and says he does'nt want to play for them and wants to leave, its a case of do you keep an unhappy player or sell for what you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1eng Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Think its about 19.7 M, but dont know if thats pounds or euro's, which had to be taken up before mid july, after that the club is under no obligationl to accept a lower offer, but then again if the player turns around and says he does'nt want to play for them and wants to leave, its a case of do you keep an unhappy player or sell for what you can get. Last i heard it was in euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 So how much does that come to in pounds? surely everton wont be buying him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE-TAC Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 It's about £15.5m - surely we can stretch to that if he really is our no.1 target and one of the best midfieldrs in europe. Reports in portugal though are saying we've bid £16.5m which I doubt if his mimimum release is less. If £15.5m got him i'm hoping we'd stil have £10m+ to spend afterwrds...get me Cana (i'd be just as happy)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Well if we dont get this player lets hope the money doesnt just magicly vanish But i would remind people that there was a time we said we are not willing to sell andy johnson & look how that ended up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hi, guys. Just wanted to clarify a few things 4 you, since you're obviously under quite a few misconceptions. Firstly, João's release clause is 25 million euros, or ~19 million 600 thousand £. Also, that release clause has expired with regards to this season, meaning we will only sell him if we want to, regarding of value offered. Secondly, the new offer EFC made (acording to a few media) is well shy of that, roughly 13£ million, so I highly doubt we'll accept that one either.. Thirdly, and most importantly, and not to offend you guys or anything, João said he wanted to leave SCP, not join EFC, and the reasons behind that are because his family has incurred in some financial problems of late, and he needs/wants to solve them. JM is a good boy, an excelent professional, and he's been forgiven by most of us, since we can relate to his situation, and we truly care for him as a captain and simbol of our club. So you should take that into account, and start to look elsewhere for solutions, since it is very much a closed dossier on our part, especially with the values you guys are offering. for the 1st time in quite a few years, we have no need to sell players to sustain our budget, so the time for easy pickings and bargain deals is over, as far as we're concerned. Gluck to you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1eng Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hi, guys. Just wanted to clarify a few things 4 you, since you're obviously under quite a few misconceptions. Firstly, João's release clause is 25 million euros, or ~19 million 600 thousand £. Also, that release clause has expired with regards to this season, meaning we will only sell him if we want to, regarding of value offered. Secondly, the new offer EFC made (acording to a few media) is well shy of that, roughly 13£ million, so I highly doubt we'll accept that one either.. Thirdly, and most importantly, and not to offend you guys or anything, João said he wanted to leave SCP, not join EFC, and the reasons behind that are because his family has incurred in some financial problems of late, and he needs/wants to solve them. JM is a good boy, an excelent professional, and he's been forgiven by most of us, since we can relate to his situation, and we truly care for him as a captain and simbol of our club. So you should take that into account, and start to look elsewhere for solutions, since it is very much a closed dossier on our part, especially with the values you guys are offering. for the 1st time in quite a few years, we have no need to sell players to sustain our budget, so the time for easy pickings and bargain deals is over, as far as we're concerned. Gluck to you guys. Sounds like you're getting scared, looks like he's on his way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 This is not over yet all clubs say they dont want to sell but weel see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Every player has his price, plus no disrespect to the portuguese league this is the premiership, the prem is the place to be. We are the highest placed team who can offer JM a place to play every week and develop further. To me, it's just a matter of money. Fair play to Sporting, they have churned out some real talent, we wish you well, but we want your captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Every player has his price, plus no disrespect to the portuguese league this is the premiership, the prem is the place to be. We are the highest placed team who can offer JM a place to play every week and develop further. To me, it's just a matter of money. Fair play to Sporting, they have churned out some real talent, we wish you well, but we want your captain. You want him, pay for him. Has for developing, he develops enough here. he started on EVERY SINGLE GAME last season. that's over 50 matches played, league, league cup, cup and champions league. Talent costs, mate. and sounds to me like you can't afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1eng Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 You want him, pay for him. Has for developing, he develops enough here. he started on EVERY SINGLE GAME last season. that's over 50 matches played, league, league cup, cup and champions league. Talent costs, mate. and sounds to me like you can't afford him. When he gets to Goodison what number shall he have, mate. Sporting have churned out some talent, but the best come to the premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 You want him, pay for him. Has for developing, he develops enough here. he started on EVERY SINGLE GAME last season. that's over 50 matches played, league, league cup, cup and champions league. Talent costs, mate. and sounds to me like you can't afford him. I think we can, quality costs money I agree, and hopefully a deal right for both parties is met. Put things into perspective in current climate a £16m bid would be more than fair. I for one feel the sentiments of clubs being able to hold onto players. We lost Rooney, didn't want to sell him, he wanted to go and then we had to sell. Same applies, it's rough and tough but it's the way it is. SP have some real quality players and you will do well to keep them away from the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd, liedson and veloso for example. As a side note it does however make me laugh that Real only bid £8m for Van Der Vart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I think we can, quality costs money I agree, and hopefully a deal right for both parties is met. Put things into perspective in current climate a £16m bid would be more than fair. I for one feel the sentiments of clubs being able to hold onto players. We lost Rooney, didn't want to sell him, he wanted to go and then we had to sell. Same applies, it's rough and tough but it's the way it is. SP have some real quality players and you will do well to keep them away from the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd, liedson and veloso for example. As a side note it does however make me laugh that Real only bid £8m for Van Der Vart I totally aggre. If you feel like that about Rooney, imagine how we feel about Figo, Quaresma, Nani, and oh yeah, Cristiano Ronaldo... Trust me, mate, I know that feeling well, I've lived with it for a very long time. The thing is, this year, as i said, for the 1st time, we don't NEED to sell in order to keep our head above the line. that makes things quite different. I don't deny that he would leave for a fair offer, but your president's latest offer of £13m isn't it. I have little doubt that he will leave, eventually. and Miguel Veloso, and so many others. It's the country we live in, and the wages we can pay that force this, BUT, however, we dont' give freebies. Anyways, from what i've read in the last few days, you guys need quite a few signings, so ask yourself, can you really afford to spend so much on one (excelent, no doubt) player, when you need many others as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I think his English is too perfect to be a foreigner, i think sporting4ever is a wind up merchant, mate. Have you ever heard a foreigner calling anyone mate. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I think his English is too perfect to be a foreigner, i think sporting4ever is a wind up merchant, mate. Have you ever heard a foreigner calling anyone mate. :rolleyes: lol. i am portuguese, trust me. this is what too much mmorpg does to ppl Besides, 've been traveling since i was a (very) young boy, and english is truly my second language. and maybe it's also cuz im majoring in translation/interpretation too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah mate, me and my dog both believe you implicitly. what time is it now in portugal, and are you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah mate, me and my dog both believe you implicitly. what time is it now in portugal, and are you there. 19:48. we're GMT, just like you guys. And yes, I'm in my home in Lisbon. want me to write in portuguese, just to clear your doubts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 No need, i wouldnt know portugese from dutch. Welcome to the forum Sporting4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting4ever Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 (edited) No need, i wouldnt know portugese from dutch. Welcome to the forum Sporting4. Nunca se sabe...(you never know) And thanks, nice to be here. BTW, what are your needs, reinforcement wise? Cuz there's a ball club up in Porto, named Boavista, usually the 4th or 5th in the league regularly, that got sentenced to relegation because of game-fixes, and it's quite possible they'll close doors. they're down in tons of debt, players leaving with wages behind, and i there's quite a few interesting players on their roster, and i'm sure they'll go anywhere at this point. just thought i'd mention it... Edited August 9, 2008 by Sporting4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Berno Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 (edited) Hi, guys. Just wanted to clarify a few things 4 you, since you're obviously under quite a few misconceptions. Firstly, João's release clause is 25 million euros, or ~19 million 600 thousand £. Also, that release clause has expired with regards to this season, meaning we will only sell him if we want to, regarding of value offered. Secondly, the new offer EFC made (acording to a few media) is well shy of that, roughly 13£ million, so I highly doubt we'll accept that one either.. Thirdly, and most importantly, and not to offend you guys or anything, João said he wanted to leave SCP, not join EFC, and the reasons behind that are because his family has incurred in some financial problems of late, and he needs/wants to solve them. JM is a good boy, an excelent professional, and he's been forgiven by most of us, since we can relate to his situation, and we truly care for him as a captain and simbol of our club. So you should take that into account, and start to look elsewhere for solutions, since it is very much a closed dossier on our part, especially with the values you guys are offering. for the 1st time in quite a few years, we have no need to sell players to sustain our budget, so the time for easy pickings and bargain deals is over, as far as we're concerned. Gluck to you guys. Sounds like a Kopite gelous of us possibly signing one of the best youngsters I have seen in a long time... Probably just got the ã for João on a website. 'Nunca se sabe...(you never know)' We've all heard of google translator mate but if I am wrong then i fear we will not be getting Mouthino. Edited August 9, 2008 by Josh Berno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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