Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Shareholders have the right to send their proxies to general meetings all right, but with their hands tied so to speak. For, proxies cannot vote on show of hands nor can they speak at general meetings. The law condescends to allow them to vote only on a poll. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-opinion/proxies-of-shareholders-directors/article1010179.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-opinion/proxies-of-shareholders-directors/article1010179.ece That's an Indian site talking about Indian rules Avin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 That's an Indian site talking about Indian rules Avin. Rules schmooles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 "Guest" is different from a proxy though isn't it? So how does that apply?I don't think it would to the General Meetings. That was just an extract from the minutes of the club meeting with the EFCSA. If you look at the link to Toffeeweb, there's a response from Tom Hughes. He says his response was misplaced after he had hand delivered it to the club. errrr... Hold it outside in the 40,000 capacity stadium then??Like the Packers? http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Packers-Shareholders-Meeting-set-for-July-24/4b720e4d-27ad-4fad-a2e9-d6b3da33d6f6 Why don't the club play clever and send proxies in their own place? They do. The board members' shares are held in a company, those companies send the board members as proxies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 https://www.icsaglobal.com/assets/files/pdfs/guidance/080122.pdf This says they can speak, but it could be from Bratislava. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Does anybody else get the small writing thing occasionally ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Does anybody else get the small writing thing occasionally ? No I post on here all the time and it has never ever happened to me ! Lowensda, Bailey and GoodisonRoad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Like the Packers? Exactly, if they are serious about involving the fans of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm unsure to be honest, I haven't spoke to the guy for about three years. It's probably because he was a speaker at the Blue Union event last month. All known blue union members have been denied access. It's a joke, and only serves to big up the rumours of paranoia at board level. I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything back, but I expect twitter to be very upto date. Media and efcsa will most likely keep things updated. Can you get a signal in the phil? Might not be so upto date actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 All known blue union members have been denied access. Is that BU members who are shareholders (would be a bit ridiculous banning shareholders from a shareholders meeting) or the "two" people that Louis is talking about being refused entry (as either guests or proxies)? Is it anecdotal or is there proof that this is really happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Are these the 2 lads who took the piss and recorded the meeting secretly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Are these the 2 lads who took the piss and recorded the meeting secretly? They didn't record it! They have very good memories and remembered word for word the three and a half hour meeting so wrote it down when they got home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 They didn't record it! They have very good memories and remembered word for word the three and a half hour meeting so wrote it down when they got home! We're a class above us Everton fans. Incredible memories. It's all to do with that Evo lotion innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Is that BU members who are shareholders (would be a bit ridiculous banning shareholders from a shareholders meeting) or the "two" people that Louis is talking about being refused entry (as either guests or proxies)?Is it anecdotal or is there proof that this is really happening? I believe Dave Kelly is a shareholder, and that he won't be allowed. But I don't have proof. Edited June 26, 2013 by MikeO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 It doesn't help that it's just rumours without names. Going from the ToffeeWeb link, Tom Hughes said he physically handed in his form to the club and appointed a proxy as he couldn't attend, the form went missing and it transpired that his proxy would have been Colin Fitzpatrick - the guy who spoke out against Everton's off-field management at a public meeting. I'm not sure of the identity of others. One of the three who met with Bill Kenwright in 2011 seems to be on the proxy list. It may just be someone with the same name. I don't know them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I believe Dave Kelly is a shareholder, and that he won't be allowed. But I don't have proof. If that's true then the club are out of order. Don't know company law but possibly he could take some sort of legal action against the board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I just put out a few tweets, I didn't realise just how much there is to cover. There's Destination Kirkby, Walton Lane, Langham Street, Kitbag/Nike, Finch Farm lease etc. And that's before the board give a yay or nay to future meetings. James Asquith, Chairman of the EFCSA tweeted @ToffeeTalk saying: "we're going to be there all night! Perhaps if we'd had 5 meetings over the last 5 years things could be covered in more depth?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 The Echo are running a live blog from 6pm: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/live-everton-fc-egm-philharmonic-4720005 as are evertonfc.com : http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/06/26/general-meeting-live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 "In here early. Just been handed a polling card for a poll vote. So no show of hands then!" - https://twitter.com/MARK_GRAYS0N/status/349927875316678658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Keith Wyness is in attendance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Alan Irvine's in attendance. Presumably he's going to be doing some talking tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Alan Irvine's in attendance. Presumably he's going to be doing some talking tonight. Deflecting more like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Squad is valued at 29.6m?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I don't like Elstone at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I don't like Elstone at all... I used to but now I think he's in over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I used to but now I think he's in over his head. Always reminded me of Tony Blair; lies with a smile to make it seem ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Always reminded me of Tony Blair; lies with a smile to make it seem ok Lol he does come across smarmy doesn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Bit smarmy, more like a politician Edited June 26, 2013 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I was reading Tony Barrett of The Times tweets, he quotes Kenwright telling shareholders that he was called a 'dickhead' and that Kenwright felt 'raped' and 'betrayed' on one occasion. Three videos played tonight so far. Someone asked about a shared stadium, so there'll be nothing but that in tomorrow's media now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I was reading Tony Barrett of The Times tweets, he quotes Kenwright telling shareholders that he was called a 'dickhead' and that Kenwright felt 'raped' and 'betrayed' on one occasion.Three videos played tonight so far.Someone asked about a shared stadium, so there'll be nothing but that in tomorrow's media now.must be "the interview" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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