Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm watching twitter for the updates and it just seems all so pointless. "Kenwright is asked how much the board had invested in the club. He responds that wages (ie not taking them) is "a colossal investment"." Not taking many more questions now after someone told Robert Elstone that they felt Kitbag was not a good deal as Villa and Swansea earn more. Kevin Campbell is putting Kenwright in touch with a New York based buyer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm watching twitter for the updates and it just seems all so pointless. "Kenwright is asked how much the board had invested in the club. He responds that wages (ie not taking them) is "a colossal investment"." Not taking many more questions now after someone told Robert Elstone that they felt Kitbag was not a good deal as Villa and Swansea earn more. Kevin Campbell is putting Kenwright in touch with a New York based buyer... It must be so difficult for a group of millionaires not to take a wage. The Kitbag deal is bad. I don't see how Elstone can dispute that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 .... And done. Shame there wasn't a video feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yeh the tweets I have seen suggest that all the main issues have been dodged and whatever they have tried to explain has little to no substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Tried not to get too wound up reading the tweets, had to laugh at how it ended up, their glossy spin was starting to get destroyed by some cutting questions... Then all of a sudden the "please make this stop, I haven't got the answers" was pressed. Club is run by amateurs, simple as that. Elstone hasn't a fooking clue. By the way if like to know how much the directors would like to be paid for being shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 It must be so difficult for a group of millionaires not to take a wage. The Kitbag deal is bad. I don't see how Elstone can dispute that. he didn't dispute it, he simply stated the fact that its "gone from a loss-making operation into a profitable one". Which it has. It's still rubbish in comparison, which I'm sure he won't admit to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yeh the tweets I have seen suggest that all the main issues have been dodged and whatever they have tried to explain has little to no substance. Exactly as I expected. Dodge and deflect. That's all the powers that be will ever do because if they actually answered the questions they'd show just what a mess they're making. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 "In here early. Just been handed a polling card for a poll vote. So no show of hands then!" - https://twitter.com/MARK_GRAYS0N/status/349927875316678658 AGMs reinstated on a show of hands . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 AGMs reinstated on a show of hands .worthless if this is the kind of response we'd be getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I wasn't actually looking forward to the facts and answers the board gave, more excited about the documents that will come out in the next few days which will cut through the shite and spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I did a search for "Kenwright" on twitter to see what's being said.. https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=Kenwright&src=typd The pictures, bloody hell. Certainly not safe for work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Very disappointed. They only answered six questions before pulling the plug. That in itself answers questions to me. They still don't want to be open about anything, they still won't accept criticism, they still aren't good enough. Bills attitude, it just makes me mad. I was hurt by what happened so I took my train set home and put a pad lock on the door. SimonButtle and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 People on Twitter claiming Carter is a billionaire - no self respecting billionaire would live in Birkenhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Enquired about two players eh? Bet we were told "f*ck off" on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Enquiring's easy, I bet we do a lot of that. It's when money comes into the equation we have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 So did they win the vote for the return of AGM's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yeah. Ultimately, I think that's all any shareholder wanted from tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yeah. Ultimately, I think that's all any shareholder wanted from tonight. Good. That's probably all they wanted because they knew that was pretty much all they could gain from tonight. They weren't going to get any real answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I did a search for "Kenwright" on twitter to see what's being said.. https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=Kenwright&src=typd The pictures, bloody hell. Certainly not safe for work. I'll never look at Bill in the same light again ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 So bill felt "raped", totally improper use of the English language again bill. The reality is that his stance of banning agms meant a group of fans got the answers recorded to questions he has been avoiding for too long. The bloke needs to get a grip or piss off, been sick and tired of him playing the martyr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Unfortunate turn of phrase, probably will cause offence to some and faux-outrage to others. Interesting thought here though; the Articles of Association were adjusted in 2008 to prevent AGMs taking place with a few exceptions, Bill Kenwright complains of feeling violated in 2011 and that's the reason he didn't want to face an AGM, then in 2013 he votes in favour of the AGM returning at the EGM called because he/his company stopped it in the first place. Apparently the Articles of Association also prevent directors taking a wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Unfortunate turn of phrase, probably will cause offence to some and faux-outrage to others. Interesting thought here though; articles of association were adjusted in 2008 to prevent AGMs, Bill Kenwright complaint of feeling violated in 2011 and that's the reason he didn't want to face an AGM, then in 2013 he votes in favour of the AGM returning - at the EGM called because he/his company stopped it in the first place. It's like a soap opera! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Apparently the Articles of Association also prevent directors taking a wage. So him saying they do it like it was some grand gesture was just a load of hot air? Edited June 26, 2013 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://www.efcsa.org/wp-content/uploads/everton%20accounts/EFC%20Articles%20of%20Association%20Sept%202008.pdf Article 19, (page 13) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 http://www.efcsa.org/wp-content/uploads/everton%20accounts/EFC%20Articles%20of%20Association%20Sept%202008.pdf Article 19, (page 13) So him saying they do it like it was some grand gesture was just a load of hot air? As the most recent Articles of Association (linked by Louis) were passed in 2000 and "ammended by special resolution" in 2008 it looks like it was Bill and the board that added the "no wage" rule themselves....so not hot air. They're saying they'll not take a wage and also, as it stands, it stops future directors from taking one. Though presumably new owners could come up with their own ammendments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Some of you seem desperate to pounce on the slightest opportunity to have a go at the club. Slow down. :dont know: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Same questions, same answers, same moans.. *yawn*, at least we didn't have to listen to TalkSport ads every 5 minutes this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Some of you seem desperate to pounce on the slightest opportunity to have a go at the club. Slow down. :dont know: Not the case Av, the administration of our club is rightly under the microscope, when they consistently come out with the same shite years after they should have had it addressed, you know we are going no where. Every answer was a defence to a question they didn't want to hear, if they had come about and said "these are our issues, this is what we are doing about it" then great. But no, they expect the fans yet again to swallow the same old shite, commercially we have a bunch of half wits running the show. StevO, Iamryanstover and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Not the case Av, the administration of our club is rightly under the microscope, when they consistently come out with the same shite years after they should have had it addressed, you know we are going no where. Every answer was a defence to a question they didn't want to hear, if they had come about and said "these are our issues, this is what we are doing about it" then great. But no, they expect the fans yet again to swallow the same old shite, commercially we have a bunch of half wits running the show. i hate to agree but it's so true. You could predict the answers before the question was finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Why so much negativity,after all these years inhouse fighting I still haven't got a clue what the blue unions agenda is,forever bickering but no solutions. I think it's called "lighting a fire under someone's arse" the club still have the same problems they had 5 years ago. Nothing has been fixed. The model they were operating is still the same. There is no vision at leadership level, they are a bunch of amateurs - completely out of their depth. To prove this just look at the last head of comms (paul tyrell), the badge fiasco. Renegotiating our shite deal with Chang, it's absolutely shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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