thoward18 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Which was your tweet? Everyone is very positive about Oviedo, and whilst I agree he looks great going forward; it didn't take much for Accrington to expose him at the back! Just keeping it in perspective. Makes you respect Baines that much more. Despite how involved he gets offensively you rarely see him getting caught or making a mistake going the other way. Like what I've seen from Oviedo but anyone who thinks that we'd be "fine" if Baines were to leave is in denial. Bailey and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Which was your tweet? watching on my ipad doing the ironing. they said be careful because ive burnt myself a few times. i blame it on the wine! Oviedo Baines Anichebe Velios Hibbert Coleman Naismith Gueye Mirallas Pienaar Distin Alcaraz ....I think thanks, its a bitch on the ipad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Am I alone in thinking Naisy had a good half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Like Steve_E said during the Vienna game, Gueye is much bulkier than I have seen him before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Am I alone in thinking Naisy had a good half? Ehh. Had some nice efforts and passes and then a few miserable first touches. I wouldn't say he had a "good" half but he wasn't poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Am I alone in thinking Naisy had a good half? I'd agree. I was gonna put it in my post about Oviedo but I thought two contradicting views in one post may be going a bit nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Felli starting much deeper this half (just as he trots forward!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Am I alone in thinking Naisy had a good half? Thought he had a nothing half. Couple of nice positions but poor touch and poor passes let him down. Bit like Hibbert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Poor from Fell but thought he put in a good challenge and won the ball trying to make up for it. Edited July 17, 2013 by Bailey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) So far Gueye has either been very good or piss poor. Clearly a player in there somewhere. Edited July 17, 2013 by Bailey Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Pienaar is a cock, that was no worse than what he done 2 minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 4-1 Osman, good cross from Coleman. Ossie not having the best of games though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Think Felli and Osman should come off next. Just as Ozzy scores from a good ball from Coleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Coleman really is a great crosser of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Pienaar is a cock, that was no worse than what he done 2 minutes ago. What are you on about its miles worse! Pienaar's first challenge wasnt even a foul and that AS challenge could have seriously injured him. Steve_E and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Coleman really is a great crosser of the ball. Needs to happen more often though. There are still too many bad crosses but he is definitely improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Unlucky Vellios, the ball just wouldnt sit down for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Makes you respect Baines that much more. Despite how involved he gets offensively you rarely see him getting caught or making a mistake going the other way. Like what I've seen from Oviedo but anyone who thinks that we'd be "fine" if Baines were to leave is in denial. to be fair though, Baines has had more practice. Gibson is looking like he will be a rock and I dont doubt, future captain. Coleman is looking like he could be a good as Baines No, im not exaggerating on those 2 points... Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Conor Grant coming on. And he deserved it based on the Vienna game, he was very good. I thought Martinez disagreed as he subbed him off again after 20 minutes, but perhaps that's because he's just 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Gibson is a cool cookie. Very underrated. Sibdane and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Jeez Joel, clear the first man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Lad looked in a lot of distress there. Slow decision to stop match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 One of Gibson's best performances so far. I know its only pre-season but he has shown another dimension and almost mobility in his play today. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Good work out that and an impressive performance overall. Gibson & Felli worked very well, especially the former whose energy was fantastic. Oviedo was bright in attack but he lost a bit of concentration for their goal. Robles was impressive enough in his keeping duties but a couple of sloppy passes could have been punished. Vellios, Gueye and Grant all showed some signs of quality but they need a bit more consistency to go with it (mainly aimed at the first two). Alcaraz showed exactly why Martinez has brought him in. Handled himself well in defence but his performance on the ball and playing the ball in to midfield put the other two to shame. Jags who was poor in the first half stepped up in the 2nd which was good to see. Im looking forward to the Blackburn game now. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Looked a bit fitter than the Accrington lads and our possession will have taken it's toll on them. Decent performance and effort. Good to see lads working hard regardless of opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 lots of experimenting going on - we will get a clearer picture once Martinez starts with his strongest side - testing of benchers and youngsters very positive - suddenly we have a big squad - some will make it and some won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Martinez has a cinema screen at his home where he watches replays over and over - these games will show him a lot about the unknowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Martinez has a cinema screen at his home where he watches replays over and over - these games will show him a lot about the unknowns You've visited his home? O_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 You've visited his home? O_o You weren't invited to the Toffee Talk party? Oops. codders78 and efc1111 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 well, utmost respect for Accrington Stanley to start with, they didnt roll over, they came to play and got a well worked goal. For those pointing fingers at Oviedo - Baines has been found out like that many times before. So... Romey-esq write up (i hope!). I will add that some of this might be down to wine, and excitement so I'll point out when im serious Also, will need to consult the OS for all who played Robles - solid. Claimed the ball comfortably in the air, got down low when needed. Wasnt really tested but what he had to do, he did with confidence and I wasnt close to being nervous. I wont be surprised to see him starting more than Howard. Hibbert - showing his age, not sure we will see much of him any more. Coleman - the boy seems to go from strength to strength. I was not exaggerating when I said he could be as good as Baines. Jags - shakey. Clearly took this for what it was and sauntered. No way he can get away with that kind of complacency come season kick off. Distin - nothing wrong, not much impressive. Good distribution but thats about all I can say. Alcaraz - looked the most comfortable CB all game. One or 2 slip ups but nothing dangerous. Looked comfortable on the ball promising. He will be cause all sorts of trouble for Martinezs CB selection Oviedo - someone mentioned before, if Baines goes we might be alright. Pace to give away, adventurous, looks every bit the player we've suspected but not had a chance to see because of Baines' form last season Baines - didnt get into the game. Sure as shite was not part of the defence when he came on. Wasnt involved as much as I wouldve expected. I was hoping he would have a field day but turned out.... meh... Mirallas - Looks like he and Oviedo could get a great attacking partnership going. They clicked, they thrived. Wouldve left him on just to continue to get his confidence on. Wanted him to take people on more but thats me being greedy I suppose. Gibons - MOTM by a country mile. Future captain; solid, calm, great range of passing, played his all. Absolute steal. Hope he can stay fit. Naismith - moments of good, moments of awful. The personification of squad player. Ossie - just proves my point about him sitting behind the striker. He cant play a deeper role and do the long distribution but his turning in tight corners and short passing (despite some wayward passes) were good. Age is catching up with him, he seemed very sluggish at first and never really got into a higher gear. Felli - theres just part of his temperament that we will never get rid of unfortunately. However, he had a hunger and looks much happier in the deeper role. Maybe a bit enthusiastic at times but I was impressed that he put the effort in in a "meaningless" game. Anichebe - apparently he was on the pitch.... Apart from his goal, didnt do much else. Expected him to prove a point but he was his usual self. Pienaar - average Gueye - Maggie, as Bailey said, was either great or crap. Ive always thought he had a brain in there and some of his vision proved that, but he is not fit and his body clearly doesnt do what his head says. Still, hes young and still is worth keeping patience with. Vellios - he really tried, bless him, but this time nothing worked out for him. Still think he could be a good EPL striker. Grant - looked good for his cameo. Did I miss anyone? Zoo and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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