Cornish Steve Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Not so many years ago, the ref would demand a penalty be retaken if the goalkeeper moved before the ball was kicked. Nowadays, it seems that rule has either been thrown out or is being ignored - rather like the time and number of steps a goalkeeper can take when holding the ball. Joel Robles clearly moved to his left before saving the penalty this weekend. Of course, I'm please the penalty was not retaken, but what is the rule these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I thought the rule was your not supposed to come off your line Robles didn't seem to move his feet just his body which is obviously allowed you can't stay stiff as a board The same applied to players running up and stop starting but you still see it often For me players should move continuously to the ball or strike it first time and the keeper should be on his line you can't apply one without the other IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 The rule was that the 'keeper couldn't move until the ball was struck but now he's allowed to move as long as he stays on his line. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 And what about the time and number of steps allowed when the keeper has the ball in his hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 And what about the time and number of steps allowed when the keeper has the ball in his hands? I don't remember the number of steps ever being an issue, but it used to be they could only have hold of the ball for 6 seconds before they had to get rid of it. That was hardly ever enforced anyway and was probably just quietly taken out of the laws. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 And what about the time and number of steps allowed when the keeper has the ball in his hands? Interesting FIFA article from 1997 about the evolution of goalkeeping laws. http://www.fifa.com/news/y=1997/m=10/news=goalkeepers-are-not-above-the-law-72050.html I'm surprised that as recently as that the "four step" rule was still in use, it certainly isn't any more but surprisingly I can find no date when is was rescinded (though it certainly was because I remember it happening). Six second rule is still in force. From Rule 12 of the laws of the game. An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences: controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from his possession and before it has touched another player touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate Strange that by the letter of the law time wasting should lead to a free kick when in reality the 'keeper is given a yellow card and told to get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Interesting FIFA article from 1997 about the evolution of goalkeeping laws. http://www.fifa.com/news/y=1997/m=10/news=goalkeepers-are-not-above-the-law-72050.html I'm surprised that as recently as that the "four step" rule was still in use, it certainly isn't any more but surprisingly I can find no date when is was rescinded (though it certainly was because I remember it happening). Six second rule is still in force. From Rule 12 of the laws of the game. An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences: controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from his possession and before it has touched another player touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate Strange that by the letter of the law time wasting should lead to a free kick when in reality the 'keeper is given a yellow card and told to get on with it. Surely a yellow card for 'time wasting' is not relevant to any of the above? It is usually given for the goalkeeper taking a long time over a goal kick or free kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Surely a yellow card for 'time wasting' is not relevant to any of the above? It is usually given for the goalkeeper taking a long time over a goal kick or free kick. Fair enough but when was the last time you saw a free-kick for a 'keeper holding the ball for too long? I can't remember one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 At one point this weekend, Joel Robles held on to the ball for at least 20 seconds. Again, I'm glad he wasn't penalized, but it does seem like keepers completely ignore this rule, knowing it won't be enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 And who remembers this goal - which really should not have been disallowed at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 At one point this weekend, Joel Robles held on to the ball for at least 20 seconds. Again, I'm glad he wasn't penalized, but it does seem like keepers completely ignore this rule, knowing it won't be enforced. it's only enforced in extra time when the other team is down by 1 and moaning at the ref! Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 At one point this weekend, Joel Robles held on to the ball for at least 20 seconds. Again, I'm glad he wasn't penalized, but it does seem like keepers completely ignore this rule, knowing it won't be enforced. It's daft, but it's the referee's fault. I wish they'd act on it. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Fair enough but when was the last time you saw a free-kick for a 'keeper holding the ball for too long? I can't remember one. When was the last time you saw an indirect free kick given? Obstruction seems to no longer apply hence "shepherding the ball" MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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