markjazzbassist Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 I heard this poem today on the Writer's Almanac and was laughing so hard in the car. This writer is a genius. I never noticed this grammatical error even though I've seen the screen a million times. http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php?date=2008/09/22 Windows is Shutting Downby Clive James Windows is shutting down, and grammar areOn their last leg. So what am we to do?A letter of complaint go just so far, Proving the only one in step are you.Better, perhaps, to simply let it goes.A sentence have to be screwed pretty badBefore they gets to where you doesnt knowsThe meaning what it must be meant to had.The meteor have hit. Extinction spread,But evolution do not stop for that.A mutant languages rise from the deadAnd all them rules is suddenly old hat.Too bad for we, us what has had so longThe best seat from the only game in town.But there it am, and whom can say its wrong?Those are the break. Windows is shutting down. "Windows Is Shutting Down" by Clive James from Opal Sunset: Selected poems, 1958–2008. © W.W. Norton & Company, 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Big fan of Clive James and you're right, he is a genius. One of the most erudite and grammatically correct people on the planet so I'm not entirely sure what his intention was with that. Amazing that he's still alive! "For much of his early life, James was a heavy drinker and smoker. He recorded in 'May Week Was in June' his habit of filling a hubcap ashtray daily. At various times he wrote of attempts – intermittently successful – to give up drinking and smoking. He admitted smoking 80 cigarettes a day for a number of years. In April 2011, after media speculation that he had suffered kidney failure, James confirmed that he was suffering from B-cell chronic lymphocytic leukemia and had been in treatment for 15 months at Addenbrooke's Hospital. In an interview with BBC Radio 4 in June 2012, James admitted that the disease "had beaten him" and that he was "near the end". He said that he was also diagnosed with emphysema and kidney failure in early 2010. On 3 September 2013, a television interview, 'Clive James: The Kid from Kogarah', was broadcast by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) with James interviewed by journalist Kerry O'Brien. The interview was filmed in the library of his old college at Cambridge University. In a BBC interview with Charlie Stayt, broadcast on 31 March 2015, James described himself as "near to death but thankful for life". However, in October 2015 he admitted to feeling "embarrassment" at still being alive thanks to experimental drug treatment." markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 i think it's some out of the box thinking. i believe it should be 'Windows are shutting down', but instead he decides to go along with the grammatical error and the whole poem is one massive error. the bigger picture of the poem speaks to how grammar has gone to shit in the modern age. i thought it was absolutely brilliant. very difficult to find the exact wrong grammer with each of those phrases and yet still have the reader understand but cringe. thanks for the info on Clive mike, i'll have to find more of his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 God, that gave me a headache. Thanks, Mark! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) When this thread appears on the next level page as the most recently changed, its title is "For Mike0 and other lovers..." I was intrigued and am now disappointed. Thought maybe he was passing along some tips. Edited September 15, 2016 by Cornish Steve markjazzbassist and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 i think it's some out of the box thinking. i believe it should be 'Windows are shutting down', but instead he decides to go along with the grammatical error If he is referring to the operating system, and he surely is, then 'Windows is shutting down' is grammatically correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 If he is referring to the operating system, and he surely is, then 'Windows is shutting down' is grammatically correct. That's the only line that is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 If he is referring to the operating system, and he surely is, then 'Windows is shutting down' is grammatically correct. Because it's a noun so the s isn't plural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Because it's a noun so the s isn't plural? Poetic licence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Because it's a noun so the s isn't plural? Windows (the OS) is a singular noun so requires the singular verb. The s makes no difference. In the same way, we say Checkers is a game or Draughts is a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Can't remember when it was ( many years ago), I went to see Clive James live on stage, he was doing some kind of book tour and we thought it would be a decent nights entertainment.He came on stage, opened his jacket, took out his new book and proceeded to read chuncks from said book............the only thing that prevented most from walking out, was the fact that they were asleep. There was a question and answer session at the end, one person asked nearly all the questions, wouldn't be surprised if that person left the building with Mr James! Sorry Clive, but it was terrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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