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#1 c1982

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Posted 23 Aug 2009 - 20:56

So it's started... the papers are spending our windfall already!
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#2 c1982

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Posted 23 Aug 2009 - 20:56

oh yeah, a link would be useful!!! http://www.dailymail...yaletdinov.html
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#3 jamiemaher85

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Posted 23 Aug 2009 - 20:57

What's the link for this one?

He sounds like a made-up player! Can't imagine anyone even attempting to sing that name
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Posted 23 Aug 2009 - 21:09

Hes actually a very good player, has picked up a lot of caps for Russia and is a good all round midfielder.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 09:48

Full name........Diniyar Rinatovich Bilyaletdinov
Date of birth... February 27, 1985 (1985-02-27) (age 24)
Place of birth.. Moscow, Soviet Union
Height.......... 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in)
Playing position.Left Midfielder / Attacking Midfielder
Current club.....Lokomotiv Moscow
Number 63
Senior career... 2004–present Lokomotiv Moscow 149 games (31)goals
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 09:55

Well almost all the papers are carrying this story now, after looking into him he does look good, we could play him on the left and move Pienaar to the right.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 10:04

Not an obvious priority for us but a good signing that would make us a better balanced side. Agree that Pienaar would have to move out right but that would give us good width on both flanks with players that can take men on. I still think our centre mid is too lightweight and we need to get someone in there that can give us the option to play 4-4-2. But Moyes will surely be concentrating on defence next if he gets Billy A Let Din Off (that's breaking his name down into easy chunks!!)
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#8 inertia8

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 10:34

Interesting name.. sounds like you're sayin "Bill, ya lettin off!"
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 10:48

Seems a shame to break up the Baines and Pienaar combination.

It looks the only fluid, proffesional partnership we have.

How much was Ar*seshavings? Shame we can't go back and buy him.
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#10 Romey 1878

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 10:53

http://www.liverpool...00252-24513661/
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 10:54

Seems a shame to break up the Baines and Pienaar combination.

It looks the only fluid, proffesional partnership we have.

How much was Ar*seshavings? Shame we can't go back and buy him.

It does, but at the end f the day Pienaar is a right footed midfielder being pushed out onto the lft wing. I'd much prefer to have a left footed player on left and right footed on right. Pienaar has to cut in onto is good foot to often and i think having him on the right would sort us out.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 10:57

so we are linked with a dinosour now, some name that
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#13 c1982

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 11:08

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2009/08/24/david-moyes-ready-to-spend-lescott-cash-on-diniyar-bilyaletdinov-everton-fc-latest-100252-24513661/


That's a very positive report. I would be very happy with this signing, although I don't know much about him I think natural width in mid is a priority. This will hopeful allow osman to become a squad player not in centre midfield where he looks a hell of a lot more comfortable than when he's put on the right.

Like others I agree it is a shame to break the pienaar baines combo, but it's getting a little predictable and we need to build other ways of attacking teams.

The most exciting season for me as an evertonian regarding actually being really proud of the football we played was the 95/96 season - much of this was down to having 2 quality wingers in limpar and kanchelskis - we were labeled the dogs of war but I remember we played some fantastic football and scored goals from all over the pitch.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 11:58

The most exciting season for me as an evertonian regarding actually being really proud of the football we played was the 95/96 season - much of this was down to having 2 quality wingers in limpar and kanchelskis - we were labeled the dogs of war but I remember we played some fantastic football and scored goals from all over the pitch.


Or going back further, Sheedy and Steven outside Reid and Bracewell were even better.

And if you're as old as I am you'll remember the likes of Dave Thomas and John Connolly, quality wingers who could beat a man and deliver great crosses. Most of the best teams play with width but we need to play 4-4-2 if possible (and we don't yet have strong enough central midfielders.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 12:56



This boy looks absolute class.........one of the best ones we have been linked with.......
Hope this comes off !!!!
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 13:39

http://www.sportingl...ER_Everton.html

'A delegation from Goodison Park is expected to fly to Hamburg in the next 24 hours to conduct a medical on the Locomotiv Moscow left winger who is likely to cost boss David Moyes close to £9million.'
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#17 duncanmckenzieismagic

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 13:44

http://www.sportingl...ER_Everton.html

'A delegation from Goodison Park is expected to fly to Hamburg in the next 24 hours to conduct a medical on the Locomotiv Moscow left winger who is likely to cost boss David Moyes close to £9million.'



Its the same quote thats in tonights Echo, whether there is any truth in it remains to be seen
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 14:29

I must admit I was very impressed with this guy in the Euro's last year. I took a special interest in Russia as I had 20 quid on them to win it, and also pulled them out in the draw in work! I thought he made Arshavin look good to be honest, he would always pick him out from wherever he was and make the runs that split the defenders, usually ending up with Arshavin or whoever scoring. I felt sorry for him as he never seemed to get given a mention, I thought he was very under-rated! Will be a good signing for us, if it ever gets comlpeted.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 14:41

Given that Chelsea just paid, what 18M for Zhirkov, then ~9M for Dinyar is very good business. Obviously has an eye for goal, can pick a pass and makes great runs. He can also take a free kick and a PK. I'm sure he and Baines would link up brilliantly on the left, and as long as we get a real RB for Pienaar to work with then we'll have dramatically improved our balance in attack.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 15:25

http://www.nsno.co.u...-media-reports-
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 15:51

Its on SSN now too.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 15:55

Сегодня утром полузащитник «Локомотива» Динияр Билялетдинов отсутствовал на тренировке, поскольку улетел в Англию.
По информации «Советского спорта», Билялетдинов пройдет медосмотр в одной из местных клиник – «железнодорожника» приглашает «Эвертон», и трансфер может быть осуществлен в течение ближайших дней.


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This morning Lokomotiv Moscow midfielder Dinyar Bilyaletdinov was missing from training, [and thought to have] flown to England.

According to information obtained by "Soviet Sport", Bilyaletdinov is undergoing a medical at a local clinic. The 'Railwayman' [ie Lokomotiv Moscow player] has retained an offer from Everton and the transfer may well be completed in the coming days.

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That's my translation anyway.

The fact that this report has him flying to England while our Medical team is in Hamburg should work out well...
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 15:57

Ive seen this guy play alot, I thought that he would go to a big club before Arshavin, but no. I think he is better than Arshavin but he was also getting more money than Arshavin in wages. I thought he was too dear to buy. (wage wise) 9 mil is cheap for him.
Hope this one happens
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 16:44

Please be true that were signing him tonight I need something to hang my hat on.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 17:07

As I know Russian I've been looking for any clues in their press. According to http://www.foot2day.ru/news/17073.html this report the medical is taking place in Hamburg because Dinyar does not have a British visa. No idea as to the credibility of the report. I'll post anything interesting that I find.

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There are numerous conflicting reports about him being in England and not being in England, bu according to Lokomotiv Moscow's 'Press Attache' the idea that Dinyar is in England "does not correspond to reality". Of course that wouldn't prevent him being in Germany.

Edited by chicagoblue, 24 Aug 2009 - 17:14.

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 17:11

I think he is better than Arshavin but he was also getting more money than Arshavin in wages. I thought he was too dear to buy. (wage wise) 9 mil is cheap for him.


Wasn't Arshavin on 50k a week at Zenit? Are you sure Billy boy was on more? If so, I can't see how we can afford him within our wage structure...but we must have agreed this in principle. Seems unlikely he was on wages of more than 30k a week surely?
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 17:21

Wasn't Arshavin on 50k a week at Zenit? Are you sure Billy boy was on more? If so, I can't see how we can afford him within our wage structure...but we must have agreed this in principle. Seems unlikely he was on wages of more than 30k a week surely?


Just found this on a forum...it's a couple of years old but Arshavin was second highest and no mention of Billy.

Top 10 earners in Russian League:
Timoschuk Anatoliy (Zenit) – 3 mln euros p/a
Arshavin Andrei (Zenit) – 2.5 mln euros p/a
Tekke Fatih (Zenit) – 1.7 mln euros p/a
Loskov Dmitriy (Lokomotiv) – 1.5 mln euros p/a (now in Saturn)
Ignashevich Sergey (CSKA) – 1.5 mln euros p/a
Dominges Alexandro (Zenit) – 1.5 mln euros p/a
Titov Yegor (Spartak) – 1.4 mln euros p/a
Pogrebnyak Pavel (Zenit) – 1.2 mln euros p/a
Akinfeev Igor (CSKA) – 1.2 mln euros p/a
Carvalho Daniel (CSKA) – 0.8 mln euros p/a

Just done some research...seems purse strings have tightened a lot in Russian football. For example...Lokomotiv Moscow said they had trimmed their budget by at least 20 percent this year. Zenit are backed by a company with massive debts (i.e billions!)

So Russia may be fertile ground for us at the moment.

Edited by Wirral Wizard, 24 Aug 2009 - 17:42.

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 17:44

http://www.guardian....w-bilyaletdinov
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 17:56

just watch the youtube vid of him, its like kanchelskis all over again. id love to see a winger with tricks and pace. its these stories that leave me gutted when they dont come off.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 18:04

Well that report sounds positive. Would be a very good, if late, start.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 18:52

just watch the youtube vid of him, its like kanchelskis all over again. id love to see a winger with tricks and pace. its these stories that leave me gutted when they dont come off.


A very exciting prospect if he is remotely like Kanchelskis.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 19:10

Whoah looks proper good.

Some saying as good as Arseshavings.

If so will be a major coup.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 20:04

Sounds like a excellent signing, hope this is one of the 4 Moyes brings in, needless to say i wont be paying to get his name on my Jersey!!
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:10

Do a full circle probably ;)

But seriously, snap him up moyesy boy :P
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:11

so right now he's on his way to England while our medical team are off to Russia where they will spend the day looking for him before hitting the Russian bars, down a load of vodka and head off back to the hotel with some fine Russian ladies before getting taken away by some Russian mafiosie angry not getting money for their ho's from our tight staff!

Oh dear!


On the plus side he sounds like and looks to be a decent player. Plenty of the runs he was making on the vids were down the middle, while i'd obviously prefer to see him on the wing he could probably do a bit of swapsies with Piennar like Osman and Piennar currently do thus allowing Piennar to still link with Baines and Ruskie to cut inside. As well as giving them both a chance on the other side.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:24

According to this report, which is in Russian:

http://www.championa...ews-291973.html

His father thinks he is close to a move to Everton.

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And according to this report, also in Russian

http://www.foot2day.ru/news/17086.html

He refused to comment on the rumors but at the same time did not deny them, and is quoted as saying something along the lines of "Let's wait and see what happens by Wednesday"

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This third report, more Russian

http://www.sportsdai...aletdinov-30757

Claims that he is in fact in Hamburg and along with him is the "First Vice President" of Lokomotiv Moscow who is authorized to conclude the deal should the Dinyar pass the medical

Edited by chicagoblue, 24 Aug 2009 - 21:48.

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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:51

To even put Bilya's name in the same sentence as Arshavin is blasphemy! Arshavin is maybe the greatest Russian footballer ever, while Bilya is just a very talented player who has not developed all that well. Don't even think for a moment that you are getting Arshavin or anything close! Bilya exploded onto the scene about 5 years ago and was thought to be the brightest prospect in Russia. However, he has been a huge disappointment over the last 3 seasons, where he has not progressed at all, and in the eyes of many, he has regressed. He has great ball control skills, a strong left foot, good vision and intelligence. But, he does NOT have great pace, he is not an accurate shooter and he makes way to many stray passes. He is also frail, so he can get knocked off the ball pretty easily. Contrary to what has been said in this thread, he is NOT a winger. He plays best in the center of the field. All attempts to have him play on the left side have failed miserably, including for the Russian national team. Gus Hiddink really like him at first and wanted him to be one of the cornerstones of the team along with Arshavin. However, Gus has been disappointed with Bilya over the last year. Bilya was the weakest midfielder on the Russian team at the Euros, and ended up losing his starting spot for the semifinal game against Spain (replaced by the talentless but hardworking Ivan Saenko). Since then, Bilya has not played in single game for Russia, and was only recently recalled for the upcoming international games after a few decent showings with Lokomotiv.

He is only 24, and perhaps he got too complacent in Russia. Maybe this move will spark something in him, and he can reach a different level. But please, don't expect any miracles from him. I would not be surprised if he fails in his first few games and ends up on the bench. But, if he gets the desire to prove himself, he could turn into a decent premiership player. Someone who could score 7-8 goals a season and provide as many assists. In the best case scenario, he could be a little bit like Aleksander Hleb, but not quite as good.
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:52

Good work Chicago!
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:56

thank you Bilya, an interesting insight, maybe not as good as we thought. :(
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Posted 24 Aug 2009 - 21:58

To even put Bilya's name in the same sentence as Arshavin is blasphemy! Arshavin is maybe the greatest Russian footballer ever, while Bilya is just a very talented player who has not developed all that well. Don't even think for a moment that you are getting Arshavin or anything close! Bilya exploded onto the scene about 5 years ago and was thought to be the brightest prospect in Russia. However, he has been a huge disappointment over the last 3 seasons, where he has not progressed at all, and in the eyes of many, he has regressed. He has great ball control skills, a strong left foot, good vision and intelligence. But, he does NOT have great pace, he is not an accurate shooter and he makes way to many stray passes. He is also frail, so he can get knocked off the ball pretty easily. Contrary to what has been said in this thread, he is NOT a winger. He plays best in the center of the field. All attempts to have him play on the left side have failed miserably, including for the Russian national team. Gus Hiddink really like him at first and wanted him to be one of the cornerstones of the team along with Arshavin. However, Gus has been disappointed with Bilya over the last year. Bilya was the weakest midfielder on the Russian team at the Euros, and ended up losing his starting spot for the semifinal game against Spain (replaced by the talentless but hardworking Ivan Saenko). Since then, Bilya has not played in single game for Russia, and was only recently recalled for the upcoming international games after a few decent showings with Lokomotiv.

He is only 24, and perhaps he got too complacent in Russia. Maybe this move will spark something in him, and he can reach a different level. But please, don't expect any miracles from him. I would not be surprised if he fails in his first few games and ends up on the bench. But, if he gets the desire to prove himself, he could turn into a decent premiership player. Someone who could score 7-8 goals a season and provide as many assists. In the best case scenario, he could be a little bit like Aleksander Hleb, but not quite as good.


Sorry to be spectical but why on Earth should we listen to a word you said? Nobody (except maybe one or two fans in cuck-coo land) said he was like Arshavin, though it's ironic as Everton interest in Arshavin typically made him go elsewhere i.e. Arsenal. Anyway my only concern is his lack of pace and his statue, but if he signs I will definitely not argue as his potential is there to be matured. And it doesn't matter if he isn't a left winger, Moyes never plays players in their correct positions anyhow!
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