MikeO

Tough group for Celtic.

AEK....another big club! Bit of pointless trivia (having spent endless hours talking football in Greece). Whereas we tend to say their name A ee kay....the Greeks call them eye-ak .

Why have they got some YTS lad presenting it ?

Always thought that rival groups of "consenting" psychopaths should be allowed to get on with it. Build them arenas, bit like bullrings, and let them kill each other without involving the innocent. They don't need to be at football matches....the game is irrelevant.

Brilliant draw! Love it.

Bit after his time Bill....amazingly I found this . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nkL0r2UQ70

Ah....memories! http://evertonfc.com/stats/?mode=fixture_details&fixture_id=4027 Anyone else there....I was .

Dodgy defending (Baines the main culprit) let Petr through. Hibbo tackle from behind, got a bit of the ball but was always likely to be red. Needed to be done though....conceding a goal so early would have been very worrying. How's the knee?

Another name for the pot. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6812947.ece

Celtic is unlikely because if UEFA do the seedings the simplist way; that is the top twelve rated teams (by coefficient) are top seeds, next twelve second seeds and so on then we'll be in the same group as Celtic (2nd seeded) . The four groups would be made up like this... Top seeds.. Werder Bremen Villarreal AS Roma PSV Eindhoven Shakhtar Donetsk Sporting CP Lisbon Hamburger SV Benfica Valencia Panathinaikos Ajax Steaua Bucuresti Second seeds.. Fenerbahçe FC Basel Lille OSC Celtic Everton Club Brugge Heerenveen Galatasaray Anderlecht Austria Wien FC København Lazio Roma *4 Third seeds.. Hertha Sparta Praha Dinamo Bucuresti AEK Athens Slavia Praha Levski Sofia Athletic Bilbao Partizan Belgrade Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC Twente Enschede Dinamo Zagreb Fulham FC Fourth seeds.. CSKA Sofia Toulouse CFR Cluj Genoa Rapid Wien FC Timisoara BATE Borisov Nacional Funchal FC Salzburg Sturm Graz FK Ventspils Sheriff Tiraspol

Terrible shame....maybe O'Neill should have rested some players for the week-end (stifles smirk).

From the beeb watching Villa/Vienna....

Travelodges are cheap if you book in advance (http://www.travelodge.co.uk/). http://www.premierinn.com/pti/home.do?CMP=KNC-Google_brand are also good but normally a little more expensive. Campanile I've stayed in a few times....good location http://www.campanile.com/hotel/en/hotel-013248.htm

This is the most relaxing 45 minutes I've watched for many a game. 1-1....meh.

Love watching games with my wife. Detailed analysis of the first half... "That Tim Howard's a good looking lad."

Game over! 1-0

Current Player of the Year standings.... Rodwell 28 Saha 26 Pienaar 20 Hibbert 8 Fellaini 8 Neville 2 Baines 1 Osman 1 MOTM winners.... Burnley...(A)...Tony Hibbert Sigma Olomouc (H)...Jack Rodwell Arsenal (H)...Steven Pienaar

Not seen it but even Wenger said... "He went down, for what reason I do not know. Having seen it again on television, it doesn't look a penalty." So pretty much tied on I'd have thought.

That's amazing. Has Majedski run out of money ?

It was Sunderland Jamie . Not neccessarily the end of his Everton career....Ossie was still going out on loan at 22/23 (cue "he should have stayed at Carlisle/Derby" posts ).

That's not frittering nobby that's time well spent! Hello.

Thanks Iggy. So "Evertonians" deliberately sabotaging themselves then . Strange.

Never been a regular match-goer so I can't comment in terms of suffering week-in week-out but one that sticks out in my memory is Neil Robinson, purely on the performance he gave in the second League Cup Final replay against Villa in '77. It was physically painful to me .

Why is this in "Rumourama," is it because someone heard a rumour that J-Low was a money grabbing twat....or is he on the move again ?

Hah! I neglected the fact that the game is on Five....the self same channel that carries the everyday goings on of those merry folk of Orstralialand! Ramsay Street has been temporarily relocated to 4.25 BST .