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If he doesn't move to get game time he's not going to make it into the national side 😂😂

If he doesn't move to get game time he's not going to make it into the national side 😂😂

Continuity will be important for him, so really nice gesture from the club. 

I didn't - I thought he was off to punditry - was that just for euros?

I remember thinking what a breath of fresh air...someone who can pass. 

I remember thinking what a breath of fresh air...someone who can pass. 

I think the main stipulation, and the one they are failing on is having any money.

I thought I already showed that there have been managers with similar or even worse winless records that Dyche - two were sacked, one wasn't, one probably won't be.
 
Dyche wasn't. There was probably "just cause" to do so, and we can all have our opinions on that and none are right/wrong. History can't even tell us which path was the right one as the outcomes are not all the same. 
In the end he wasn't sacked (for whatever reason). And we stayed up. 

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

This supposed takeover is the shit show of the highest order.

I thought I already showed that there have been managers with similar or even worse winless records that Dyche - two were sacked, one wasn't, one probably won't be.
 
Dyche wasn't. There was probably "just cause" to do so, and we can all have our opinions on that and none are right/wrong. History can't even tell us which path was the right one as the outcomes are not all the same. 
In the end he wasn't sacked (for whatever reason). And we stayed up. 

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

Paul Jewell didn't win a single game all season for Derby County (in charge Nov to May)...worse still they didn't even sack him in the summer, then for some crazy reason thought he was the man to lead them back to the promised land. They were....wrong!
Mick McCarthy won 2 in 25 for Sunderland ....including a run of 14 without a win....he was sacked!!
Sheff Utd this year - Heckingbottom won 1 in 14...sacked. Chris Wilder then did a hold my beer moment and has gone 13 without a win..will prob be 14 by the weekend.
Comparing ourselves to the 3 worst clubs in the history of the PL is prob not a good look....but thems the facts.
Now you can argue this from both perspectives.....Dyche should have been sacked as his record was similar to the managers who presided over the shittest seasons in history. Conversely, you could say, Everton was right to have faith....they stuck by him and he delivered.
My take is that yes, he was very lucky not to be sacked, but ultimately whoever the hell is making the decisions these days made the right call (whatever their motives were)

I'd argue that the defense performing well was not in spite of dyche...but more likely because of him. One of the things I don't like about Dyche is that he sets up not to lose. How many times have we complained about us facing shitty (on paper) teams at home and not going for it. 
We are also top 5 in most defensive categories (clean sheets, fouls against, offsides, interceptions etc)..you can't tell me that none of that is prepared for on the training ground.
My summary is:
1. Dyche should get credit for the winning streak and the defensive performance
2. He should carry the blame for the losing streak, regardless of external circumstances
3. At most clubs he probably should've been sacked for going so long without a win. Possibly our board gave him the benefit of the doubt or possibly we couldn't afford to change management staff again AND thought the 3 promoted clubs are so shite we will prob be okay.

I'd argue that the defense performing well was not in spite of dyche...but more likely because of him. One of the things I don't like about Dyche is that he sets up not to lose. How many times have we complained about us facing shitty (on paper) teams at home and not going for it. 
We are also top 5 in most defensive categories (clean sheets, fouls against, offsides, interceptions etc)..you can't tell me that none of that is prepared for on the training ground.
My summary is:
1. Dyche should get credit for the winning streak and the defensive performance
2. He should carry the blame for the losing streak, regardless of external circumstances
3. At most clubs he probably should've been sacked for going so long without a win. Possibly our board gave him the benefit of the doubt or possibly we couldn't afford to change management staff again AND thought the 3 promoted clubs are so shite we will prob be okay.

I had to double check what thread I was in…I was reading about Young and then read “he is fast and strong enough” and I thought hang on WTF……had to check back and realised it was Patterson 😆

I had to double check what thread I was in…I was reading about Young and then read “he is fast and strong enough” and I thought hang on WTF……had to check back and realised it was Patterson 😆

Put it this way - it's debatable and you would get many managers who would choose branthwaite over any of them when you consider his potential, current levels and his 2 amazing feet which has him as a left sided centre half. 
 
Branthwaite has made tarkowski up his game .  Quality quality player who will be a very very regrettable sale. 

Surely MikeO has to be in legal...dotting the I's, crossing the T's and correcting the.....well everything 😂

Personally I'd rank Micky Van Der Ven (sp) and Ruben Dias higher.  Id reluctantly say VVD is still better also. 

I'd argue branth is more important to us than the others are to their teams tho. 
I hope we keep him for years to come!