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27 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

There's not much difference between allardyce and dyche tbh.  Can't stand either of them.  Multi millionaires by playing football in a way that is almost unwatchable yet they gaslight fans with utter bullshit. 
 

hopefully we survive, hopefully we get good owners,  hopefully we get a manager who can get more from the players and use the money from Onana etc to get the club back on its feet 

Quite a few hopefully’s but that’s all we have unfortunately next season regardless of which league we are in it’s all about incomings and we need to get it right a massive responsibility on Thelwell and our scouts. 
we know Jarrad & Onana will be leaving so I’m presuming we already have our targets. 

9 hours ago, Newty82 said:

That's kinda my point...we've not been happy with hardly any!

Ancelotti, in my opinion, got away with his name. But so often we were dull as fuck to watch. However, I think if he'd stayed, with the funds we had then, different story a season later.

I think we sacked Silva too early. I liked him. But, again, we shit the bed and fans were calling for his head as soon as results didn't go our way.

Same happened with Koeman.

Allardyce and Benitez shouldn't have been near the club.

Dyche, while far from perfect, deserves more credit than what he's sometimes being given.

For me Koeman was a bigger disaster than Benitez and Dyche he wasted so much money on bad players. 
and apparently he was going playing golf when the team was training he took us for a ride big time. 

2 hours ago, Gwlad said:

Indeed, surely someone would have squawked to the Currant for cash?

And you both know that there was other diners there don’t you

11 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Garbage. I'll question anyone if I have have questions or disagree with anyone if I disagree, 100% of the time, not 99%.

No preferential treatment at all.

I’ll be honest I couldn’t give a shit anyway. 

27 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Point stands, you'd not hear a slap on the head if it was on the other side of a library.

The thing is it doesn't matter what I say 99% of the time you will question it or disagree with it for some unknown reason you do exactly the same with Haf 

25 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Talking about the other restaurant customers, what's their motivation for not talking about it?

Well someone did but surely it would be exclusively for Everton there must have been at least 30 or more players and staff involved.

36 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I'm still waiting for one of these "everyone" people to actually come forward and corroborate that. Why has nobody done so do you think?

There's also the fact that a blow (hard or soft) to the back of the head actually makes very little noise, so in a public place with all the ambient noise going on the chances of the noise being heard are minimal. Have you ever seen a fight break out in a pub? You see it first or you hear shouting, you don't hear the noise of a slap. That just happens in bad movies.

If your story was that Patterson shouted, and that's what drew everyone's attention, it'd be more plausible.

Why would anyone come forward and speak out surely they want to play 

Regarding the pub there's a massive difference to a restaurant noise wise 

There's things I haven't said and won't say about what happened and about Dyche don't forget it was Dyche who asked for that break we are on the bones of our arse and he wanted a holiday he s turned out a total knob 

When he s gone it might just come out 

I see Patterson hasn't had a sniff since it happened

The premier league are doing their best to get rid of us we have caused them so much grief 

2 hours ago, MikeO said:

Entitled to your opinion of course, but I still don't see how the whole trip becomes a sham.

If I went on holiday with my family and fell out with one of the kids over dinner one day, it wouldn't mean the whole thing was a write-off.

The rest of it still happened.

What if you hit 1 of them and everyone around seen and heard the slap would you still say the holiday was good ?

9 minutes ago, Sev said:

Oh please, Palfy. Martinez didn't do anything but continuing what Moyes had build up for his first season. And then what happened?

He bought big Rom which was a master stroke. 
but his big mistake was Niass that was the beginning of the end and he came out and spoke loads of shite sound familiar 

2 hours ago, MikeO said:

One incident with one player, whatever you believe the seriousness of it to be, doesn't define the whole trip though does it?

It’s 1 incident on 1 player but in front of the whole team so it affects the whole team. 
so for me it’s a sackable offence 

1 hour ago, MikeO said:

What's the "Portugal sham"?

You don’t need telling again surely 

3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

It also seemed like it had ran it's course in terms of being a boost for the players.

I’m not sure when it actually finished but one thing for certain the fans over the last 2 seasons have had a big part in us staying up some greetings were amazing and the kids absolutely loved it. 

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

Yes I do. 

its a poor side generally. Criminally short on pace, but the lack of technical proficiency is far less than what the players have.

for me its clear that the training isn't focusing on the passing and moving because its all about shape to defend. 
 

if we are going to sell the likes of Onana then we need to bring pace and power into the side on the wings. I'd sell Beto back to udinese at a £5m loss if they would take it. 

No one is paying anything like what we paid for Beto you’d be lucky to get 10m

4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

If he's lost them then they wouldn't give a shit about that.

Their body language and effort levels does not scream that he's lost the players at all.

I get that a lot of our fans aren't keen on Dyche, I can't say I am either and I didn't want him in the first place, but all the bullshit shouts from some of you is fucking tiring and comes about every time we have a bad run of form. No matter the manager.

Why? Because we don't have a good squad and haven't for a long time. Hence the relegation battles.

Shut the fuck up whinging all the time and creating noise (not you personally, everyone that does it). Get on with supporting the team until the end of the season.

I’ve only criticised Dyche after suffering the last 4 months and the Portugal sham. 
regardless of what happens this next few months he just can’t be manager next season. And it’s down to Thelwell to earn his wages and make a couple of decent signings. 

26 minutes ago, Haiku said:

Do you really think our squad is better than our current position in the table, considering the six points lost in arbitration?

No but we know our squad is awful but you have to look to the manager to get more out of them the long ball game is a disaster more often than not we lose possession. 
I’m a bit concerned Onana did his training and decided he wasn’t fit enough to play doesn’t seem right to me. 
he wasn’t happy getting pulled off the last game. 

11 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

Is this the same players that have thrown the towel in under every manager we have had since Moyes?

It’s a mish mash and yeah same players mostly but it’s too late in the season to try and get the manager out. 

38 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Based on yesterday's battling showing it would appear that he still has the support of at least 11 of the squad.

I doubt it the players are in a situation where they can’t throw the towel in they have to do it for the fans and themselves.

I don’t think Dyche comes into it other than he selects the team. 

He’s gone in the summer and he knows it hes trying to justify him being here.

he’s lost some of the dressing room if we had the money he’d be gone now  

7 minutes ago, RuffRob said:

because some of us are dyslexic and are just not great at reading and writing, particularly spelling. 

had people take the piss since i was a school.kid, trying to make me feel stupid if I make a mistake, from both teachers and other kids.

Must be great to be so clever.

answer you question?

 

Well said lad

Let’s hope we can do away with the hoof ball and play some decent football through the midfield. 

I’m missing this one today I’m gutted the 1st game I’ve missed in years. 
but I’ve got to go to a family function. 

22 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

From what I'm seeing on Socials, the fans are rallying once again. All the stuff we've seem the last couple of years to help us stay up.

It's brill to see. When it matters, all opinions, debates etc get put to one side to fully focus on what really matters.

Over to Dyche and the players to respond in kind....

I wonder why Dyche stopped the coach greeting and made them travel in their own cars Surety it’s better to arrive as a team. 

A heavy defeat tonight and surely Dyche has gone. 
i can’t see us winning a draw would be great 

we need to be looking for a young attack minded manager even tonight go out and attack even if we get beat let’s have a go I’m sick of watching the same shite week in week out 

We need an attack minded manager I’d love us to go for De zerbi I know people will say he won’t come here but at least try.