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Be absolutely gutted for him if he misses the Euros

Be absolutely gutted for him if he misses the Euros

As far as I know the season runs from August to May, but if you want to talk about an arbitrary run of games, how about the twelve immediately before those three months? 
In those three months we had an 8-1-3 record, twenty-five points, nearly 2.1 ppg which over the season (to date) would put a team staying at that level on seventy-three points, above Liverpool.
Five games since the bad spell? Twelve points at 2.4 ppg, that over thirty-five games would put a team on eighty-four, strong title favourites.
The whole season thus far, again leaving out the thirteen game run (but including the crap start)...12-2-8, just over 1.7 ppg giving a very respectable total of sixty points with three to play (we qualified for the CL with 61), and an almost certain European place.
None of all that is particularly relevant of course, because the season takes thirty-eight games, but it's all just as relevant as the winless streak some can't make a post without referencing. 
If you want to be down in the dumps about a third of a season then fair enough, go for it, but following the same logic we should be dancing in the streets about the other two thirds
And we're not, because we're being realistic.

Haf, I see your points. I do. The general style of play for large chunks of the season has been hard to watch, he did lose the dressing room at one point, and he is stubborn to a fault a lot of the time.
However, I would count this season as a wild success. Romey just posted in the longest thread, but when you consider everything happening off the pitch and even STILL we're in 15th with 3 games to spare?
He deserves all the praise for what he's accomplished

The ginger Guardiola has done it again!! 😍

If a team loses three or four positions in the table due to PSR, lets say lost out on £10M. Can you offset that in this year's accounts? 
Or will the PL make the argurement that Everton should have forseen that PL are a bunch of corrupt fuckers! 

Why believe the vice captain when you can believe a news article with absolutely no evidence whatsoever?
Dick head.

Haf, I see your points. I do. The general style of play for large chunks of the season has been hard to watch, he did lose the dressing room at one point, and he is stubborn to a fault a lot of the time.
However, I would count this season as a wild success. Romey just posted in the longest thread, but when you consider everything happening off the pitch and even STILL we're in 15th with 3 games to spare?
He deserves all the praise for what he's accomplished

Doesn't seem significant, but with each place higher up the league now being worth an extra £3m+ in prize money, climbing an extra place or two would be handy for the coffers.

I guess this is the part that baffles me about this point of view.
We get hit with the largest points deduction in EPL history, and yet we still secure safety with 3 games to spare and will likely finish higher than we did the previous 2 seasons.
How is that not a success?

There's no point in going back and forth on this, with both you and Haf. You two have your opinions, 95% of everyone else on here has ours 😂
I'm a realist, and that's why I view this season as a success. My sights weren't set higher because of what this club has been through the last few years and will continue to go through. With the absolute dumpster-fire that this club has been, I think I quite rightly am allowed to have a pretty low bar for what a "successful" season is

I guess this is the part that baffles me about this point of view.
We get hit with the largest points deduction in EPL history, and yet we still secure safety with 3 games to spare and will likely finish higher than we did the previous 2 seasons.
How is that not a success?

I guess this is the part that baffles me about this point of view.
We get hit with the largest points deduction in EPL history, and yet we still secure safety with 3 games to spare and will likely finish higher than we did the previous 2 seasons.
How is that not a success?

I guess this is the part that baffles me about this point of view.
We get hit with the largest points deduction in EPL history, and yet we still secure safety with 3 games to spare and will likely finish higher than we did the previous 2 seasons.
How is that not a success?

I guess this is the part that baffles me about this point of view.
We get hit with the largest points deduction in EPL history, and yet we still secure safety with 3 games to spare and will likely finish higher than we did the previous 2 seasons.
How is that not a success?

I am pretty sure Gana would snap up another contract if offer one. it would be fool Hardy not to have hom for at least one more year.
he has been a brilliant players for us - twice!!!

That's remarkable

That's remarkable

Even if the Premier League had taken the 17 points from us that they wanted to we still wouldn't be in the relegation zone today.
Just think about that.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/imagine-disappointment-everton-caused-last-29071201

They’ve only under achieved due to city being so consistent 

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Short term cardiorespiratory detraining is characterised in highly trained athletes by a rapid decline in maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max) and blood volume. Exercise heart rate increases insufficiently to counterbalance the decreased stroke volume, and maximal cardiac output is thus reduced. Ventilatory efficiency and endurance performance are also impaired.
These changes are more moderate in recently trained individuals. From a metabolic viewpoint, short term inactivity implies an increased reliance on carbohydrate metabolism during exercise, as shown by a higher exercise respiratory exchange ratio, and lowered lipase activity, GLUT-4 content, glycogen level and lactate threshold. At the muscle level, capillary density and oxidative enzyme activities are reduced. Training-induced changes in fibre cross-sectional area are reversed, but strength performance declines are limited.
Hormonal changes include a reduced insulin sensitivity, a possible increase in testosterone and growth hormone levels in strength athletes, and a reversal of short term training-induced adaptations in fluid-electrolyte regulating hormones.
I thought everyone knew that🙄

Yeah.
Can we also have a Total Cunt button? That would be superb too 👍

Our passing has been woeful long before Dyche even arrived. Maybe the reason we go long so often is because he's not too precious about the football being pretty and because he realises these players aren't great at it.
We're good at doing in small spells but consistently? Nah, someone will eventually play a stupid pass and give possession up.
Do I want it to be better? Of course I do but I've been moaning about it for years so I think it's a little bit unfair to blame Dyche for it.

Overall - all said and done it's a big tick.  
if he and his team sit down over a few beers and they are honest - they will give a huge sigh of relief and say "we got away with one there".  I would like to think they have an idea of the individuals they need to thank for getting the players together. 
i genuinely knew that the team was broken when i watched the game vs Burnley and was absolutely convinced after the Chelsea game. The slap incident and press conference had me shaking my head in disbelief - in a perverse way it's probably helped rescue the season.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall, dyche I believe had to eat humble pie. The tracksuit for me was a very revealing piece of psychology - "I can change".
it could spell good things going forward if all people concerned learn from it.