Isaiah

4 minutes ago, Cisk said:

Ive been resistant to giving him the nudge but my patience has gone now. I was happt when he was appointed but now think hes had enough time and is out of his depth with expectancy here.

Exactly the same for me. I really wanted this appointment to work, but it hasn't. He's had enough time to create his own team and it's just not bringing results. He hasn't won a single league game when falling behind, that's an awful statistic to have. Nice guy but he needs to go. And quite honestly, if he hasn't gone by Monday then it's the board who will be to blame for any future losses, because I can't think of a single reason to keep him on.  

Really hope Kean gets his first goal tonight. He works hard, has great speed and strength, decent skill. Just needs to get his goal tally up and running.

2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

Why do English commentators pronounce Gomes as “Gomesh” ?  Where does the h come from?  They used to do it with “mirallesh” as well.  

It's the correct way to say it. It's how his name is pronounced in Portuguese.

Time to break that shameful stat of never coming from behind to win under Silva.

Glad to see the same team. Looking at the bench shows how little defensive cover we have in the team.

Has to be the same team that started against West Ham. Otherwise there's no incentive or reward for actually playing well. 

That's certainly one aspect of it but surely in his report he has to explain his decision. Just curious to know if there's been any word about what the fuck he was thinking when he ruled out a perfectly good goal. Thankfully it didn't end up costing us but it very nearly could have if Pickford hadn't made that point blank save a few minutes later. In the joy of actually winning, that dreadful decision seems to have been swept under the carpet. 

Never mind VAR. If we want to improve referring, make referees answer for their controversial decisions. At least publish their match reports so we can read the reasons for their decisions. 

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered in another thread but has there been any explanation of why Mina's goal was disallowed today? The commentators on the stream I used didn't have the slightest idea and neither did the BBC live text. I saw Silva giving the ref an earful at full time but I haven't seen his interviews. Any word on what the hell happened?

First time in a while there's been a decent spread of votes across the team. Goes to show what a good team display it was, hopefully the first of many more to come. When everyone does their job, we're not half bad.  

Yes. I mean no. 

Is it true that Everton have never come from behind to win under Marco Silva? Someone mentioned it on Twitter. Very damning statistic if so, show's the level of fight we have as a team.

Ummm....yeah, I got nothing. Digne maybe? 

Can't stand this fixture. Expect us to be 3-0 up on 75 minutes and draw 3-3.

i'll take it.  they need to focus on getting promoted to the premier league, i don't expect them to take this seriously.  very happy with it.

Yep, strange vote that one. 

Went for Yerry (not 'Yeri') Mina. Solid as a rock all game.  

Delighted with the win, and also with the manner of it. Very solid defensively and great game management in the final 10 minutes. That's something we've been lacking for years. 

Thrown into a new league, physically the toughest and fastest in the world, unexpectedly due to Gomes' injury, having had almost no time to adapt to his own teammates, let alone the pace and style of the Premier League. He ended the game having helped us to not concede, which I think is his primary role in the team. He can be proud, he had a very unexpected debut (I'd be surprised if Marco was thinking of  bringing him on at all today) and he wasn't on a losing side. Hopefully this'll be character-building.  

Soft red but Morgan's an idiot for being on a yellow for going through the back of someone and then doing the exact same fucking thing. 

5 hours ago, Matt said:

You ignored the basic criteria, it’s not just "the role of anyone at the club", it’s everything that follows too. Maybe we have different ideas I mentoring.

They’ve worked together, play more or less the same position. I’ve no doubt Iwobi looked up to Theo as a youngster coming through the youth setup and so Walcott has a unique impact/ relationship 

I 'ignored' the basic criteria because all but one of them are so basic as to be common to almost every player in the first team. Literally the only criterion Theo has that, say, Seamus or Lucas or Baines don't have, is the Arsenal connection. So again, if Iwobi were some 18 year old kid coming into a new culture, I could see the wisdom in keeping someone else around for 2 years to bed them in. But we're talking here about a 23 year old who has played in England all his life, was brought up as a footballer by Arsene Wenger, has an FA Cup winner's medal and scored in last season's Europa League final. This guy needs Theo Walcott to mentor him for 2 years? Until Christmas, no problem, I'd agree, but not until 2021. It's not that you and I have different ideas of mentoring, it's that we differ, on this occasion, on its necessity. You think their Arsenal connection, a more or less similar playing position, and the fact that Iwobi may have looked up to him matters enough to keep Theo around for 2 seasons. I don't. If we signed some young Senegalese prospect from Lokomotiv Moscow who had been buddies with Niasse a few years ago I don't think you'd want us to keep Oumar on the books for a couple of seasons just to help the new guy settle.  

Anyway, I understand your point and maybe you're right, but I disagree with it because I just don't rate Theo highly as a player anymore. If he wants to mentor someone he should mentor himself, because while I think he has a lot of talent, I also think he's too often lazy and disinterested and doesn't impose himself on a game. I think if we have serious top 6 intentions then a player should be on our books first as foremost as a player. I don't think a player with the experience and background and achievements of Iwobi needs someone like Theo Walcott to mentor him for 2 seasons.

Peace.   

All I'm saying is that if it's "the role of anyone at the club" then there's no particular reason to keep Theo for that purpose. You said that "as long as he's mentoring he can stay for another 2 seasons".  I don't think that's a good enough reason to keep him that long when there are other players there who can a) mentor Iwobi (assuming he needs it; it's not like he's coming into a new league or country) and b) contribute consistently to the team at a level we're aiming for.  

Mentoring is the manager and the coaching staff's job. I don't want the club paying a player millions of pounds a year (more than the entire coaching staff combined probably, minus the manager) to do their job. If a player isn't playing, then ship him out. If his role is to mentor someone, put him on the staff at a tenth the wage.  

In the 2012-2013 season, this guy played right back for Lille when Lucas Digne played left back for them. Old teammates reunited.