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Bloody hell have I seen that right? He's dropped Schneiderlin AND Sigurdsson?? 

I'm not a fan of him at all but I think he's played pretty well. Movement from the front four has been excellent, passing has been good too until the final third  when some of the decision making has been poor. 

Or, we've got two ball players in midfield who are prepared to look for a forward pass... 

Just like an Everton fan, we've ran the midfield and is only coz the other team have been shit 😏

I'm not a fan of him at all but I think he's played pretty well. Movement from the front four has been excellent, passing has been good too until the final third  when some of the decision making has been poor. 

Still concerned? Fuck load better than Delph/Schneiderlin 😋

I'm not a fan of him at all but I think he's played pretty well. Movement from the front four has been excellent, passing has been good too until the final third  when some of the decision making has been poor. 

Still concerned? Fuck load better than Delph/Schneiderlin 😋

Or, we've got two ball players in midfield who are prepared to look for a forward pass... 

I'm not a fan of him at all but I think he's played pretty well. Movement from the front four has been excellent, passing has been good too until the final third  when some of the decision making has been poor. 

I'm not a fan of him at all but I think he's played pretty well. Movement from the front four has been excellent, passing has been good too until the final third  when some of the decision making has been poor. 

I know you'll never agree with me but we really haven't got the sixth best squad in the league. We're paper thin in key positions regardless of some of the big bucks we've thrown around, we've signed a lot of mediocre shite. The fact that Schneiderlin plays as soon as we have injuries in midfield - weak. The fact that Tosun is our back up striker - weak. The fact that Keane and Mina are our fist choice CBs with only Holgate in reserve - fml! We're not a strong side/squad in all respects of the word. And yeah, I agree with you now, the manager isn't good enough either. I just wanted to see if he could kick on from a good run last season. 

Can I just remind everyone discussing Tosun's merits as a finisher/footballer he has an inferior goalscoring record for us than Niasse. 

Can I just remind everyone discussing Tosun's merits as a finisher/footballer he has an inferior goalscoring record for us than Niasse. 

I don't see Moyes working with a DoF set up. One of Moyes's big strengths for us was recruitment and he ran the scouting set up. Moshiri has changed the management structure so we should be looking at coaches who can improve what they're given to work with. To be fair that was what Silva was meant to be. Just turns out he's not very good at it. 

I don't see Moyes working with a DoF set up. One of Moyes's big strengths for us was recruitment and he ran the scouting set up. Moshiri has changed the management structure so we should be looking at coaches who can improve what they're given to work with. To be fair that was what Silva was meant to be. Just turns out he's not very good at it. 

I don't see Moyes working with a DoF set up. One of Moyes's big strengths for us was recruitment and he ran the scouting set up. Moshiri has changed the management structure so we should be looking at coaches who can improve what they're given to work with. To be fair that was what Silva was meant to be. Just turns out he's not very good at it. 

Silva is not helping himself at all. Playing Delph and Schneiderlin together is idiotic. Bringing on Kean and taking off DCL when we NEEDED a goal was lunacy. Persevering with Sigurdsson is criminal.

My frustration with Sigurdsson - and Schneiderlin for that matter - is we're seeing exactly the same problems in midfield we saw two years ago under Koeman. It was crap then and its crap now. How have we not moved on, tactically and in terms of personnel, two managers later? 

I'm amazed to see anyone defending him. He's a glaring weak link. Slow, doesn't dominate the middle of the park defensively/physically, offers next to nothing creatively or defensively. Our win ratio with him starting is appalling. I reckon I could name a better midfield player ar every other Premier league club. 
You mention Silva leaving Delph and Schneiderlin out to dry in midfield. Well that's the issue with playing Sigurdsson. You say he did his defensive duties well, but he plays too high up the pitch. I just don't think the 4-2-3-1 we tend to play works when most teams play three a genuine three in midfield. We need an extra body dropping back, that has to be Sigurdsson or someone better suited to doing it. 

So we're either signing the wrong type of characters or our last three managers have been utterly uninspiring

So we're either signing the wrong type of characters or our last three managers have been utterly uninspiring

Wow for once I agree with Pete! 
My point Steve is why, if we consistently have one of the best U23 teams in the country, are more of them not making it through to the first team? I don't really buy the not good enough argument. I do agree with the short term outlook that results from managers being under such pressure for their jobs. 
But my gripe is this. This is third season running we've got a two, three, four months into the season and things are looking far from pretty. And look at the spine of the team that hast started the past few matches - Keane, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson. Exactly the same as when we fell apart under Koeman two years ago. I just can't get my head around that. Yeah I know Gomes and Gbamin are out, but we have no idea if Gbamin will turn out any good anyway. If Davies isn't good enough when we keep losing with the current starting midfield, he should be out on loan learning his trade. Same for Holgate, coz Keane is back to being bullied again. Our squad is still wafer thin, so if you aren't going to give a few lads a chance when you have a few injuries, what are you going to do? I don't get not charging a losing side, whatever the size of your squad. 
BTW Steve I agree with you on the impatience of the fans. I think it's a unique Everton problem too and it bugs the hell out of me. 

Wow for once I agree with Pete! 
My point Steve is why, if we consistently have one of the best U23 teams in the country, are more of them not making it through to the first team? I don't really buy the not good enough argument. I do agree with the short term outlook that results from managers being under such pressure for their jobs. 
But my gripe is this. This is third season running we've got a two, three, four months into the season and things are looking far from pretty. And look at the spine of the team that hast started the past few matches - Keane, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson. Exactly the same as when we fell apart under Koeman two years ago. I just can't get my head around that. Yeah I know Gomes and Gbamin are out, but we have no idea if Gbamin will turn out any good anyway. If Davies isn't good enough when we keep losing with the current starting midfield, he should be out on loan learning his trade. Same for Holgate, coz Keane is back to being bullied again. Our squad is still wafer thin, so if you aren't going to give a few lads a chance when you have a few injuries, what are you going to do? I don't get not charging a losing side, whatever the size of your squad. 
BTW Steve I agree with you on the impatience of the fans. I think it's a unique Everton problem too and it bugs the hell out of me. 

Wow for once I agree with Pete! 
My point Steve is why, if we consistently have one of the best U23 teams in the country, are more of them not making it through to the first team? I don't really buy the not good enough argument. I do agree with the short term outlook that results from managers being under such pressure for their jobs. 
But my gripe is this. This is third season running we've got a two, three, four months into the season and things are looking far from pretty. And look at the spine of the team that hast started the past few matches - Keane, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson. Exactly the same as when we fell apart under Koeman two years ago. I just can't get my head around that. Yeah I know Gomes and Gbamin are out, but we have no idea if Gbamin will turn out any good anyway. If Davies isn't good enough when we keep losing with the current starting midfield, he should be out on loan learning his trade. Same for Holgate, coz Keane is back to being bullied again. Our squad is still wafer thin, so if you aren't going to give a few lads a chance when you have a few injuries, what are you going to do? I don't get not charging a losing side, whatever the size of your squad. 
BTW Steve I agree with you on the impatience of the fans. I think it's a unique Everton problem too and it bugs the hell out of me.