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10 minutes ago, MikeO said:
Petition asking the government to revoke article 50 passes four million signatures.
The person who created that petition has had numerous death threats and had to close down her facebook account.
unbelievable ..
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19 minutes ago, Palfy said:
Well hopefully you will be quite busy in your insolvency practice there should be enough casualties to keep you going for a while.
Thanks, great job by the UK creating economic hardship for thousands of companies
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Well I've said before I disagree with your opinion he wants a no-deal; no need to get into it again.
I indeed have a background in EU law (I work in insolvency now), I am not a politician though so I'm not 'switched on' with what remainers and EU politicians are cooking up. I certainly don't see any of that going on.
Macron has said short extension without the deal is impossible. He also said a long extension requires UK to change its red lines. This is not really a controversial view among other EU leaders.
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10 hours ago, Matt said:
@holystove, do you know of a European law that prevents taxation without representation? It's exactly the case I'm in and have been for a decade, but wondering if it's something I can investigate
not that I'm aware of.
40 minutes ago, Palfy said:Again Macron is sounding off what a horrible little man he is he thinks he is the voice of the EU, he’s an arrogant prick with small man syndrome.
strange obsession with Macron you have. he's saying exactly the same as the other leaders, which in this case is the bleeding obvious. Theresa May keeps forcing parliament to vote on the same thing, a short extension only makes sense if she succeeds. otherwise its no deal or long extension.
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1 hour ago, johnh said:
The headline in the Telegraph Business said 'Switzerland holding out against EU ultimatum'. The article states: Switzerland is facing an excruciating squeeze. Its old bilateral accords with the EU are no longer deemed acceptable. Brussels wants to shut down the idiosyncratic 'Swiss model' once and for all. The country has until the end of June to submit to the EU's new framework agreement, or see its trading and financial access progressively cut off. "They were given a six-month ultimatum in December said Peter Cleppe (who he?) from Open Europe in Brussels. If the EU carries out its threat, Switzerland will see its market access revoked" The Swiss must accept the sweeping jurisdiction of the ECJ and 'dynamic alignment' of EU legislation over migration, social security rules, and other key areas of policy.
All sounds very democratic to me.
Incidentally Matt, I remember reading some time ago about the multiple times the Swiss have rejected joining the EU in referendums. Can't remember how many, 5 or 6 from memory. The EU never get the message, do they.
Pieter Cleppe is a Belgian eurosceptic. One of those guys you go to if you want a negative EU-quote from a non-English person.
I think you are holding the EU very strange and oddly high standards. If a country chooses not to be an EU member, it is undemocratic of the EU to deny them the benefits of membership?
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4 hours ago, johnh said:
Matt, I see the dictatorial jackboot of the EU is on the throat of Switzerland.
Shouldn't you be marching?
Near Wetherby today.
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13 hours ago, c1982 said:
Aren’t adds usually personalised these days?
Yes they are. I'm getting ads for cycling gear.
What have you been googling @Palfy ?
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11 hours ago, Palfy said:
So you don't think he's got a hidden agenda then wake up Holystove he's been vying for London's banking system and the drug development and production businesses to be moved to France, and the Spanish haven't got a hidden agenda because they didn't get the backing of the rest of the EU over Gibraltar and were told to shut up and get into line.
I voted remain but I can begin to understand why people voted out when people like you come out with phrases of economic ruin utter rubbish, all that's happening is the greedy vultures are showing their true colours.
Palfy, there is no way a no-deal brexit will ever benefit France's economy, no matter how much brexit-business moves to Paris. The country which has gotten the most inward investment up until now from UK-based-companies relocating to the continent is The Netherlands and even for them it won't even put a dent in the hit their economy will take. There's no hidden agenda or greedy vultures, there's only damage limitation and not letting this process drag on so individual member states (namely France) and the EU can focus on other pressing issues seems like a good strategy given the impasse in UK politics.
I did say 'economic' ruin, because that is what I believe (short to medium term) will happen. I hope to be proven wrong. At least the UK got to vote to inflict this on themselves; the Irish, Dutch, Belgians, .. can only look on in despair as their economies are set to shrink.
Other than that I refer to the other replies.
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1 hour ago, Palfy said:
Macron is the new boy on the block he needs to sort his own country out before getting to involved in ours, he is the only leader that I get the distinct feeling he wants us out with no deal because he sees an angle were France may benefit more by us being out with no deal and doesn’t care that others partners may suffer.
So Holystove please don’t bring Macron into it France may dictate to Belgium but not here.
It's not just France; Spanish PM has just said the same thing. Brexit is a side issue for most EU countries who mostly just want it over with.
If you find yourself in a position where you are dependent on 27 individual countries to save you from (economic) ruin, probably need to look at yourself instead of blaming others, Palfy.
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37 minutes ago, Chach said:
The extension debate is very one sided in the UK. Extension has to be agreed to by the EU. Under what circumstances would it do so?
An extension of only a couple of months offers no guarantee of the UK being able to ratify the Withdrawal Agreement.
A longer extension is problematic because of the European elections. You can't be a member state of the EU without having directly democratically elected representatives in the European Parliament; the next elections are May 26th. Nobody wants to see 73 Farages crossing the Channel.
I think there is a strong argument to be made to flat out say an extension is not possible. This way, the UK can stop pretending a "better" deal is only a few (extension- , transition- , .. ) months away. I think Macron is right to take this approach.
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46 minutes ago, Matt said:
So three companies announce plant closures as the majority of their exports (90% for Honda) are to the EU? VW and RR might be sticking around (for now) but there’s several others leaving. As for Opel, I know there’s already been cuts at Ellesmere Port plant and fears of it closing from a relative who was laid off.
How is that all a lie?
I agree with you Matt. I was just showing Hannan (who is still a blind brexiteer) has been lying since 2015 on this issue.
As for RR : https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/business/rolls-royce-approval-derby-germany-2491083
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1 hour ago, Matt said:
Honda now joining Nissan and Ford in leaving...
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https://www.ft.com/content/9cd62bde-32ba-11e9-bd3a-8b2a211d90d5
"The differences of position, which the Hunt/Fox letter acknowledges as “challenging issues”, centre around Japan’s refusal to accept a simple “cut and paste” of the terms of the EU-Japan agreement ratified last year. Instead, its [Japan's] officials have been told to negotiate as they would any other trade accord, and to seek better terms from the UK than Japan won through its long haggle with the much larger EU."
Noone could have predicted this ...
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On 05/02/2019 at 11:46, holystove said:
https://videopress.com/v/i3QUGNOx
This is your -opposition- leader.
Yup.
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That's brilliant
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https://videopress.com/v/i3QUGNOx
This is your -opposition- leader.
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15 hours ago, johnh said:
No, what I'm suggesting is that Remainers are sleepwalking into a dictatorship. After years of lying about an EU army, it is now out in the open. EU police force next. Once these are in place the EU will move from being a 'rules based' dictatorship to a 'proper' dictatorship.
Were you wearing a yellow vest while you wrote this?
EU is, and will remain, at its core, a peace project. Why is it that all these movements that are crying out for more democracy, liberalism and rule of law in Central and Eastern Europe are waving EU flags...
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1 hour ago, MikeO said:
That was down to fourteen Labour MP's voting against it, if they'd have gone with it it would've passed.
I was watching some of it unfold in your House of Commons yesterday. Why don't they use electronic voting like any other modern parliament? Every time there is a 'division' it takes twenty minutes to count the votes.
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12 hours ago, MikeO said:
Nai surely? But will the 27 say oxi to renegiotiation? They've said unequivocally that they won't so what will Mrs Maybe come back to the commons with?
Don't miss next week's action packed adventure!
I was making the comparison with Greece 2015 where they held their referendum, voted "OXI" to the deal ... (and then Greece accepted a worse deal 8 days later.)
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House of Commons says "OXI".
Brexit...
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"more" blatant? don't tell me you give any belief to this claim that the EU can somehow force a member state to vote one way or another on anything.
The only vote the EU will force on the UK is to send members to the EU Parliament, which can hardly be described as a 'disregard of democracy', rather the opposite.