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16 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Not read any of the comments yet, but my two cents on the Moise Kean double sub is 100% a situation between the player and Ferguson. I know that in the interview that he wanted to waste some time but nobody is that naive, don't believe everything you see in front of a camera. 

Kean looked off the pace and didn't really look that arsed. Fluffed a few clearances, late to his challenges and didn't really do anything up in the United third. He was removed from the game for that reason and replace with Niasse who is renowned for his work rate and energy, not a chance that he was taken off just to kill time. 

It is the end for Moise though, he's just not got going here. I'll put on record that he leaves on loan in January before sealing a permanent move away in the summer; Roma, Milan or Bologna. 

Edit: Just to add to the above, we have moaned and groaned (rightly) about players not giving a fuck in an Everton shirt so whilst it's harsh and not the best for the lad, I'm pleased to have a manager that doesn't care about feelings and puts the club first. If you don't want to put your body on the line for the shirt don't wear it - simple. Everton is and always will be bigger than one person. 

I can agree with this - I get it. We'll see. I hope he doesn't go. I'd really like to see him and DCL play together but you may be right about him leaving in Jan.

1 minute ago, chicagoblue said:

Hard to know what his instructions were vs what he did. Thought he was weak and poor though in what he did. 
 

whatever the situation it sends a crystal clear message to everyone in that dressing room. You give 110% or you don't play. 

Sure I get that. Hopefully he responds well to a discussion about it because on the surface it just seems like the type of thing that could really weigh on the psyche of a young player. 

2 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Ferguson says the decision to hook Kean was due to time wasting. I'm sure that won't wash with Kean and likewise I imagine he will say more than that to him behind closed doors.

The body language was all sorts of negative. They didn’t even acknowledge each other when he went off. 

I feel like Kean has been singled out in some unfair ways. That game was already chaotic. It’ll suck if he’s pushed out without given a real chance.

2 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Wonder if they're gonna trot Dan Meis out to put some new stadium images up to pacify the fans 

Honestly, all of the PR, marketing and design teams involved with the club can take a breather until we appoint a new manager. I don't care about training videos and icymi clips of away losses. 

Just now, Isaiah said:

Is it true that Everton have never come from behind to win under Marco Silva? Someone mentioned it on Twitter. Very damning statistic if so, show's the level of fight we have as a team.

I believe so; and it shows. We could get scored on just after halftime and it feels like 90+ mins of stoppage time.

4 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

DCL was brought in as a winger and has been converted to a striker due to his physique.

DCL was never a winger. He was played there but that wasn't his position. He started as a CM, if I'm not mistaken. 

2 hours ago, pete0 said:

I honestly don't think it's because Adebayor is black. He's saying because he's a good player and going to a relatively smaller club. 

If he was racist would he acknowledge their ability at all? 

That same time he has about anything Everton. 

Yes, actually, it’s a pretty common racist trope to applaud or comment on the physical abilities of athletes of color by praising their tenacity, athleticism, or power then proceed to question their attitudes or mental capacity.

White commentators/journalists do that to Black athletes all the time. 

It’s not exclusive to sports either. Have you ever heard of misogynoir? You can tolerate one aspect of someone’s being, especially if it’s a trait you benefit from, but discredit their actual humanity altogether. It happens constantly. 

50 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

Sorry pal, I agree with you totally in everything you have said. Sorry for the confusion

No worries! Likewise 

9 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

Maybe because we are just little Everton? I’m sure if it was joe royle making similar comments then the media darlings over the park would be in outrage 

? I was agreeing with that point. I just think Souness is a bigot as well. 

2 minutes ago, pete0 said:

He's not said it because Kean is black. He's said it because the lad has left juve for Everton. Any pundit worth his salt would know it's for playing time, given Ronaldo being there, but Souness is just a utter twat. 

I’m sure his biases against Everton were also a factor but I still think you’re giving him a pass and no one learns when that happens. We’ll just agree to disagree. 

58 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Think the guardian are stretching with the unconscious racism shout. Black or white, Souness is just a cunt. 

He’s both! 

Let’s not excuse his behavior and the apathy of his two colleagues during the whole thing; he had no business speaking about a player’s character, especially without any research. That’s how cycles continue. Souness always has a specific tone and use of language when he speaks about black players. I can see it from a mile away because it’s familiar. Not listening or being dismissive is unhelpful and allows people to fall back on the claim that “I didn’t realize” or say things like “sorry to those that were offended by my comments”. 

It’s all cyclical bullshit.

46 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Already love the look of Kean up top, especially in comparison with DCL. 

However, first touch is too heavy somewhat often and still looks like he's getting used to pace of everything

I thought so too. I think it has a lot to do with your second point in that he seems to be trying to set up a shot much of the time. That's what it looked like on at least two occasions. He looks like he'll score which gives the whole forward line energy. 

32 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Also, why not play Lossl in goal?

I think he's injured and I'm also glad we played Pickford for the sake of consistency.

I hope he's given as much time as he needs to get used to things

2 hours ago, sydneyneil said:

Some players just have a knack of making things happen. Anyone remember Daniel Amokachi? Not the greatest of players by any stretch but did he have a knack of getting in scoring positions and turning drab games into a load of chances.  Hopefully Kean is like that but with better finishing...

I think I read somewhere that Kean was a big fan of Obafemi Martins, which I personally think is awesome. That's as dynamic as it gets. I always thought he was really fun to watch and I can see some similarities in approach. 

We looked impressive defensively. The matched was well managed even with that scoreline. 

Kean fashioned two chances for himself, albeit towards the end of what was then an open match. He's obviously skilled and very eager to impress. 

On 05/08/2019 at 10:55, SpartyBlue said:

Reagan has had a bad week so I'm not sure he's the one I'd prefer at the moment. Jean-Phillipe Roosevelt maybe. He's a big fella who would look at home on a bull moose.

ATM?! I'm not sure what's made his week bad can be reconciled...

2 hours ago, Ghoat said:

On a completely different lot of thought, language barrier. I'm sure he will be working on his English, but I wonder,  do we have any Italian speakers on staff? I'm always curious how clubs deal with things like this because obviously it was thought of in advance. or at least I hope so, I would hate for the kid to get there and everybody look around and go "shit, what did he say?"

His English is pretty good. I think that (poorly) translated interview was for convenience. It seems he can understand the language pretty well so being immersed in it will speed things up. 

class

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11778026/everton-fans-to-show-support-for-moise-kean-with-anti-racism-banner

contrast

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world/zenit-st-petersburg-malcom-signing-barcelona-banner-protest-a9039761.html

https://www.90min.com/posts/6426311-zenit-st-petersburg-may-sell-malcom-after-apparent-racial-abuse-on-his-debut

I expect this type of reaction every time a Black player signs with a Russian club. There's never been any progress in eradicating this behavior and the denial from the clubs/league/state has only enabled the racists. 

22 hours ago, StevO said:

We have white and blue shorts and socks for the home kit. So they can wear it at more away games with the added options. We always do. 

Like when we play United away, they wear white shorts, so we’ll wear blue. 

I understand the reasoning but I hate when we wear blue shorts. Just doesn't feel right. 

14 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

It’s pronounced ken. 

Right, far more accurate and easy to understand 

I think perhaps it looks more complicated than it is...

I remember enough elementary French to know there's more nuance to his last name than what gets said by most pundits each weekend. 

As for Moise, I think his last name is more of a Kaane pronunciation so really there is no confusion with the Keanes and Dignes of the world.

One of the most important things about this deal or any other for a striker is that DCL has competition for this season. It's crucial that he's really pushed at this point in his career. 

I think it's incredible and I'm particularly pleased with Dan Meis' enthusiasm for the whole project. It seems to have really made an impression on his career so far. They way his firm is collaborating with the club sounds really constructive and seeing them prioritize the repurposing of Goodison just makes it all the more impressive. 

I don't think I expected to see a reflecting pool in any of these renderings; I'm genuinely surprised for the most part and surprise itself is so rare. In a way I probably expected to be underwhelmed but this definitely isn't boring. I really love the lattice work and the fact that it's visible from most vantage points. It seems both elegant and grounded.