Zoo

@Matt: Lesbian porn is alright for entertainment purposes. I'm male and am attracted to females so lesbian porn is alright right? As for the actual nature of the thing then I don't feel any different. Women were created to have sex with men and carry on the human race, by having it off with women they are performing un-natural acts. It might be quite fun to watch from time to time but it doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.
 
 
Nobody is born gay - being gay is a preference to those who want to be different.

Fuck me you play your music loud, just clicked on the link to listen in (with headphones) and nearly ripped my ear-drums out.

Our problem is we always see ourselves as inferior to Liverpool, if we played attacking football we'd win more derbies than we lose.

Our problem is we always see ourselves as inferior to Liverpool, if we played attacking football we'd win more derbies than we lose.

^ Ding Ding Ding.
 
David Seaman was injured for eight games between February and March in the 1997 season so Manninger took to the sticks to replace him. In the eight games that he played he kept eight clean sheets equaling the clean sheet record for that season. He was however replaced as soon as Seaman was fit to play and didn't feature again for the remainder of the campaign.

I quite like them. They're not at the top of my list but they're worth giving a go.

You really must have been watching a different Everton under Moyes. Yes we had our moments but we had far too many games like the first half yesterday against poor sides and lost. We were really poor first half because the players came out day dreaming but we absolutely bossed the 2nd half and Spurs didnt really have a touch until the last 10 minutes. We didnt create too many chances but we did get into goal scoring/creating positions without being able to click.
 
That last sentence is laughable argument too. Take away Cahill from Moyes' earlier sides and what do you have? Whatever it is, its irrelevant because Moyes didnt sign Lukaku and Martinez did.
 
Exactly Romey. We are 10 games in and we are slowly but surely finding our feet. We probably started better than we expected (or we did in my eyes anyway) and I think expectations have risen somewhat.
 
 
You say scraping results like its a bad thing. We arent as consistent as I would like by any stretch but that will come in time. We are playing well for periods of time and my main bug bear is that we havent been able to put 90minutes together but you say that as if we used to under Moyes. He was here for over 10 years yet couldnt manage it and you are now starting to write off Martinez who for getting to the same level in 6 months.
 
I think we have mixed it up more in these 10 games than Moyes did for the whole of last season. We have moved to 3 at the back at times, two deeper midfielders to one deeper and we have also moved from possession play to counter attacking play. Players wise we have also mixed it up. Barkley was dropped for yesterdays game, Naismith has been in and out, the midfield 3 have changed too. Its difficult to replace Mirallas because we need someone to take on defenders and provide pace. Apart from the young Spanish lad we dont have anyone else who can really replace him. Dont forget Mirallas chalked up an assist in the last game as well. The worst one for me is Coleman, because he has been dreadful so far for the majority of this season and I would seriously consider sticking Stones back there.
 
 
Exactly!
 
 
How many Wigan games have you watched over the last couple of years btw? Im guessing not many...
 
Anyway back to the game. As has already been said, very poor first half as we werent at the races whatsoever, despite that though we didnt exactly look like we were going to concede. However the second half we really did boss them and whilst our decision making again wasnt the greatest, we did work some nice opportunities and both Barry and McCarthy really stepped up. The latter became more of a force as he was allowed to break forward and get involved with the play where he almost set up Lukaku. Barkley and Deulofeu coming on gave us some extra impetus and it was nice to see the former being committed to his decisions and taking things on earlier instead of hesitating. The skill from Deulofeu to skin 5 of the Spurs players and bare down on Lloris was sublime and its things like that which should give Mirallas and Pienaar a kick up the arse, because neither were great and Pienaar especially was terribly wasteful all game. As I mentioned above, Coleman again was poor. Defensively he was clumsy and in attack he kept making poor decisions which is a shame because I really like the lad and he can be excellent but he is another that is struggling to keep his place in the team.
 
Overall a point each was the fair result but I just hope that we can start playing like we did in that second half for the 90minutes.

Playing well is a bonus, three points is the main ambition.
 
Lets stop bucking Lukaku up? Lets stop using facts that don't suit your opinion more like .

Played as good as the rest of them and did well with what little service he had. Either way so far he's been the best striker of any in the Moyes era.

Kinda shot yourself in the foot there Avin. A better striker would have got us to the top 4, Moyes failed time and time again to do that (Johnson, Beattie, Yakubu) yet Martinez finds Lukaku within his first few months of managing us.

Barry,McCarthy,lukaku all started that's nearly a third of the first eleven. So they are not all moyes players. I think after ten games we couldn't have expected any more. Yes we aren't firing on all cylinders but we are still learning. Can't be doing with all this bollocks that avin is chatting

Avin's been doing it for years but unfortunatly nothing has ever been done about it. Had it been happening on other forums with stricter staff members he would have been banned long ago. As I said earlier, I'm not entertaining him, he's entertaining enough on his own. If he wants to go around the forum attempting to get bites from everyone on here then so be it, it's dragging the place down though. Back in the day this was a brilliant forum.

Martinez has been anything but lucky, yesterday was another example of a referee costing us, the penalty that never was to be added to the baines one against cardiff and the man city one given with us denied...
 
Give martinez his dues, yesterday he made perfect substitutions at the right time which changed the game for the better. He has utilised that squad well and I think Mirallas will be 'rested' against palace and Gerry will get his big chance.
 
I don't understand how we can be comparing Martinez to Moyes, there is a day and night difference. Moyes has inherited a championship winning team, spent £27m on one player and missed the opportunity to sign the players he should have gone for... this season he has taken a title winning team and made them look distinctly mid table. His old traits such as negative subs are a common theme with united fans fearing they have completely the wrong man in charge. He is at another club now and I am pleased - simple as that.
 
Martinez may have things to learn about this everton squad but I am seeing evidence that he is doing that. He is making good decisions based on what he is seeing, his transfer dealings have been very good, getting McCarthy, Barry, Lukaku and we will see how Kone and Alcaraz fare when they are fit.
 
Lets put it this way a bad day at the office seen us draw against a very good side.... we finished that game pushing for the winner - under Moyes I fear we would have been hoofing it and trying to hang on for a point. This isn't a Martinez v Moyes debate, but unfortunately posts have been made which need to be addressed. We are looking a better outfit now than we did last season, teams know we are going to have a go at them, and not try and "hold on" to 1-0 leads.
 
In all honesty if Martinez was "lucky" then we would have beaten Cardiff with a penalty, Norwich wouldn't have scored a freak goal, we would have drawn against City and nicked a penalty against Spurs = 7 extra points = Top of the league.

. I'd rather we play like shit and win than play well and lose. We're looking better now than we have at any point under Moyes, truly baffling how you can say anything other than 'well done' to Martinez.

If we play like shit and win we have three points - what's better than that?

Kinda shot yourself in the foot there Avin. A better striker would have got us to the top 4, Moyes failed time and time again to do that (Johnson, Beattie, Yakubu) yet Martinez finds Lukaku within his first few months of managing us.

Playing well is a bonus, three points is the main ambition.
 
Lets stop bucking Lukaku up? Lets stop using facts that don't suit your opinion more like .

Played as good as the rest of them and did well with what little service he had. Either way so far he's been the best striker of any in the Moyes era.

Didn't say he was? . If you're going to argue at least try to do so with some form of intelligence.

He's better than any striker in the Moyes era.
 
In other words; he's better than Johnson, Yakubu, Beattie etc...
 
It's not my fault that you have the IQ of a swiss roll Avin. Go and attempt to bully someone on your own forum you tit.

Been here just as long as you and the sooner you leave the better. Every single post you make is in order to get a reaction out of someone as you're the biggest attention seeker (and bully) I've ever met. It's absolutely pathetic.
 
Going to move on anyway, cretins like you are not worth the time of day - it's bad for the forum to give someone with such little respect such attention. Stick me on ignore if my posts get too much for you like you did the last time, not nice being stood up to is it? .
 
Everton v Spurs posts from now on...

Posted simply for posterity. It's not often you find the 2 worst contributors to this forum post one after the other.
 
Don't try and beat people into line. This is a forum for debate.
 
And Zoo, you are a nobody with a big mouth. Don't tell people who have been posting here for years to leave.

Still pissed off with Lukau's booking. It was either intentional in which case he should be sent off or an accident (which it was).

Martinez is proving to be a lucky manager.
 
That isn't a compliment. We need to rethink our strategy as we are starting to look more like Wigan than Everton.

Zoo's Banned 5-a-side team:
 
Mark Bosnich (Drug abuser).
Rio Ferdinand (Drug abuser).
John Terry (Racist).
Adrian Mutu (Drug abuser).
Luis Suarez (What hasn't he done?).