Matt Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24104250 Good idea Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24104250 Good idea I hope that the clubs don't force their players to wear them, that defeats the purpose. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 16, 2013 Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24104250 Good idea Agreed. I wouldn't care any player came out and said he was gay, because at the end of the day, it's a sport and not a church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24117343 pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I hope that the clubs don't force their players to wear them, that defeats the purpose. Seems some are telling players not to wear them (eg ManU) and some (including us) are supporting the idea but leaving it to the individual. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24149109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I wouldn't wear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I wouldn't wear them. why not? or is that going too much into personal beliefs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I wouldn't wear them. I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 why not? or is that going too much into personal beliefs? I don't believe in promoting homosexuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 not sure if you can promote something that isn't a choice? not like people are gonna see them and think oh i'll give that a go Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I don't believe in promoting homosexuality. its not promoting homosexuality though, its promoting equal rights for those who are GLBT. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 not sure if you can promote something that isn't a choice? not like people are gonna see them and think oh i'll give that a go That's what always confuses me. its not promoting homosexuality though, its promoting equal rights for those who are GLBT. Absolutely. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 If UEFA members are in favour of switching the World Cup to the winter, would that be each nations FA or the league body of each nation within UEFA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 not sure if you can promote something that isn't a choice? not like people are gonna see them and think oh i'll give that a go You mean the thought of Jagielka wearing rainbow laces isn't making you consider shagging men?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 not seen it yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 its not promoting homosexuality though, its promoting equal rights for those who are GLBT. By wearing rainbow laces I'd be saying that I'm agreeing with homosexuallity - which I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 By wearing rainbow laces I'd be saying that I'm agreeing with homosexuallity - which I don't. That's ridiculous. You can not like it, you can be afraid of it, you can be appalled by it (all of which are a bit sad and mostly the opinions held by people unsure of their own sexuality) but you can't disagree with it. It's a fact....it's like saying you don't agree that 2+2=4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 That's ridiculous. You can not like it, you can be afraid of it, you can be appalled by it (all of which are a bit sad and mostly the opinions held by people unsure of their own sexuality) but you can't disagree with it. It's a fact....it's like saying you don't agree that 2+2=4. each to their own, Mike. Zoo, if you don't agree with it then fine. They still deserve to be treated like everyone else though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 each to their own, Mike. I agree with that completely....it's Zoo that doesn't . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 That's ridiculous. You can not like it, you can be afraid of it, you can be appalled by it (all of which are a bit sad and mostly the opinions held by people unsure of their own sexuality) but you can't disagree with it. It's a fact....it's like saying you don't agree that 2+2=4. Each to thier own, homosexuality isn't natural. I'm not going to round them all up and burn them but I certainly won't go along with any campaign to get it accepted within society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Each to thier own, homosexuality isn't natural. I'm not going to round them all up and burn them but I certainly won't go along with any campaign to get it accepted within society. Shocking. I'm amazed that an apparently educated kid could have such an outdated and intolerant view. From a sixty something Tory I'd expect it but you disappoint me hugely. Matt and Avinalaff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Shocking. I'm amazed that an apparently educated kid could have such an outdated and intolerant view. From a sixty something Tory I'd expect it but you disappoint me hugely. Why? Thats his view, and mine as well and I would say quite a few others. Dont have anything against homosexuality and under no circumstances should they be bullied for it etc but I just dont agree with the promotion of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Why? Thats his view, and mine as well and I would say quite a few others. Dont have anything against homosexuality and under no circumstances should they be bullied for it etc but I just dont agree with the promotion of it. It's not being promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sibdane Posted October 1, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) All men are created equal and should be treated as such. This is about acceptance not promotion. If you don't have anything against it then you should at least support the idea that discrimination against them is wrong. Edited October 1, 2013 by TonkaRoost Lowensda, Avinalaff, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 All men are created equal and should be treated as such. This is about acceptance not promotion. If you don't have anything against it then you should at least support the idea that discrimination against them is wrong. Perfectly put, Tonka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Tonka. Boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Shocking. I'm amazed that an apparently educated kid could have such an outdated and intolerant view. From a sixty something Tory I'd expect it but you disappoint me hugely. We were put on this planet to reproduce, reproduction does not happen naturally between two of the same sex. Simple. Like I've said before, this is my opinion (and those of a lot of other people) but for some reason there is a massive taboo about going against homosexuality. It's not as if I'm going round like the KKK spreading hate against gays, I just don't agree with it and wouldn't wear anything on my kit to promote/accept it if I were a footballer. marcus jones and Avinalaff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 We were put on this planet to reproduce, We were? I thought reproduction was the reason we were still on this planet. I don't give a shit who you bone as long as you're happy - didn't think you were so narrow minded Zoo; should have seen it coming from the Barton thread! Avinalaff, MikeO, Sibdane and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted October 2, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 being gay isn't a choice, just like the colour of your skin isn't a choice. wearing the laces is no different to wearing kick racism out of football shirts... unless thats perceived as the promotion of being black? Avinalaff, StevO, MikeO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Homosexuality is 100% natural. It would need to be manufactured for it not to be. Just like anything else in life, there are people who don't understand and make assumptions that anybody different to them must be weird, or flawed. Some of the most wonderful people I know are gay, and to think for a second that they are in some way unnatural is just an ugly notion. There are some proper annoying people in the world who are also gay, such as certain tv personalities, or extremists, but that is simply another indication that folk can be annoying regardless. It's important to realise the difference also between being in love with somebody of the same sex and simply feeling horny and experimental after one too many beers. Having sex with somebody does not constitute being gay. Being gay is either who you are, or are not, as the case may be. Romey 1878 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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