MikeO Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Deliberately not put in the Brexit thread; some lovely people about... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-36633388 (One of my grandchildren is half Polish incidentally, probably mentioned that before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Deliberately not put in the Brexit thread; some lovely people about... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-36633388 (One of my grandchildren is half Polish incidentally, probably mentioned that before) Sigh. People are idiots (that's being kind). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 A journalist writes about the problems within America's for-profit prison system. He spent four months as a prison guard. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/cca-private-prisons-corrections-corporation-inmates-investigation-bauer It's a long one. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Big interview today, getting nervous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Big interview today, getting nervous Good luck! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 1, 2016 Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 Good luck! +1 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Great being in here at this time of the day/night; could say something totally outrageous and there's nobody to (immediately) respond. Like, Mother Theresa was a bit like Stalin . Think about it, both of them were human beings, valid viewpoint I think. I need to go to bed, exhaustion taking over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 On a more serious note, Caroline Aherne, very sad. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 On a more serious note, Caroline Aherne, very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 On a more serious note, Caroline Aherne, very sad. It is indeed. Such a strong woman surviving cancer as many times as she did and still had her sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Just watched the Aldon Sterling footage... Words are a struggle after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Just watched the Aldon Sterling footage... Words are a struggle after that. Don't know what you're talking about Mark . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Don't know what you're talking about Mark . I'm guessing this: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/06/us/baton-rouge-shooting-alton-sterling/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'm guessing this: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/06/us/baton-rouge-shooting-alton-sterling/ Crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Hardest part for me is the footage of his 15 y.o son booing his eyes out and crying "I want my daddy" on TV, whilst his mum makes a statement. Heartbreaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Don't know what you're talking about Mark . I'm guessing this: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/06/us/baton-rouge-shooting-alton-sterling/ Correct. Hardest part for me is the footage of his 15 y.o son booing his eyes out and crying "I want my daddy" on TV, whilst his mum makes a statement. Heartbreaking. I felt sick to my stomach, and then rage set in. Those officers will more than likely get away with it too. Get away with cold-blooded murder. It's so fucking wrong. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Guy I met a few months back has commissioned a framer to make me a bespoke frame from his companies sample cards. I originally asked if I could have some of the free samples for me to cut up and frame myself. He said he'd do it for me at no cost. The framer went above and.beyond what was asked and has come up with this.... Take a look at @Foilco's Tweet: I received it today and can honestly say it's blown my tiny mind. Take a look at @Foilco's Tweet: It's incredible. Absolutely love it. Acquired taste I'm sure. But me....I adore it. https://instagram.com/p/BHUb2dTAG0_/ Edited July 7, 2016 by Lowensda Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Correct. I felt sick to my stomach, and then rage set in. Those officers will more than likely get away with it too. Get away with cold-blooded murder. It's so fucking wrong. And there was another killing by police today in Minnesota. Whereas the first murder (which is what it was) made it to headline #28 yesterday at Fox News, today's murder made it to #19. At this point, I'm beginning to think that "liberty and justice for all" is no more than a cynical marketing slogan. Where's the outrage? This should be headline #1 on every US news site until the problems of racism and police brutality are acknowledge and properly addressed. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 And there was another killing by police today in Minnesota. Whereas the first murder (which is what it was) made it to headline #28 yesterday at Fox News, today's murder made it to #19. At this point, I'm beginning to think that "liberty and justice for all" is no more than a cynical marketing slogan. Where's the outrage? This should be headline #1 on every US news site until the problems of racism and police brutality are acknowledge and properly addressed. Agree Steve, this country has been headed in the wrong direction for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nutmegwolf203 Posted July 8, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 And there was another killing by police today in Minnesota. Whereas the first murder (which is what it was) made it to headline #28 yesterday at Fox News, today's murder made it to #19. At this point, I'm beginning to think that "liberty and justice for all" is no more than a cynical marketing slogan. Where's the outrage? This should be headline #1 on every US news site until the problems of racism and police brutality are acknowledge and properly addressed. Steve, those that are truly outraged have very little control over the media. Several news sources used mugshots of Alton Sterling as his photo during the story and somehow found it relevant to mention any prior arrests. This is how people of color are treated in the states. I'd say it's an extreme, but it's actually more of a constant. As I saw someone mention in an article, everyone's outraged about the shootings that have been caught on video in the past 48 hours. These just happen to be the only two encounters that have been witnessed in this way. For what's it's worth, I wrote something in response. I posted it to Instagram, hence some of the context and references: "July 5th marked the anniversary of the ass beating I received from the NYPD a few years back. Alton Sterling will have no such anniversary, his July 5th was the end of him; there’s nothing to look back on, or wonder if he could have done something differently. Because the truth is he couldn’t have done anything differently. He was tricked into becoming a part of a tragic canon of statistics that piles up by the day. The truth, or a certain type of truth is that they wanted Alton dead to begin with. That’s the truth I live by, the one that says I’m a ‘threatened threat’; some of us are born members of a brutal faction of burgeoning-star-athlete-killers. I’ve always been this way, on the brink of something. At times, it has taken a fair amount of self control to ensure that that ‘something’ isn’t negative, or the end of me. Although enforced by unstable and unintelligent bullies, the system is effective. It’s designed to set examples, discredit martyrs, and slander those who seek justice. Since his death, some news sources have depicted mugshots of Sterling, think about that. In no way is that appropriate. But perhaps it should be expected, before they did it themselves, this very country, with the same government sent a note to MLK suggesting he kill himself for the greater good. My new life resolution was to be more of an activist, to know more activists, and spend more of my time being effective towards social justice. I have not wavered, but it has taken me a while to figure out how to turn grief into growth. In this case, the things that bring me solace also tear holes in my heart. I’m here, I made it, but I’m also here and they didn’t. I’m making it my business to understand situations like this better. Orlando isn’t a problem for the LGBTQ community, it’s an ‘us’ sorta thing, Brock Turner and the circus that was his non-trial is an ‘us’ problem, police brutality/profiling is us, and we have to figure this out. As tragedies like this get more and more coverage, I’ve taken it upon myself to watch every bit of footage I can handle. I no longer dismiss things I once deemed too brutal. I no longer have that luxury. If you watch Alton Sterling’s murder, you will see something so brutal, so extreme, it almost seems fake. You must watch it; once you do you’ll understand that some things are fueled by an agenda, some things are on purpose. @questlove has posted the video if you choose to view it. My parents taught me about the cops and how they think of me, I listened, but out of fear I didn’t apply what I learned. Somehow I’m here typing this. Most of us won’t be that lucky. Before any of my other ideas are put into action I’d like to simply provide my presence as someone who’s a great listener. If you’re reading this and feel like I can relate to you in any way, if you’ve gone through something that has stolen a part of you; I can’t pretend to understand everything, but I can listen and do my best. Let’s exchange letters, emails, whatever. In short, I’m here to promote change, maintain my self-worth and build up the shine of those around me...I have no time for perpetual cynics and hashtaggers that choose to remove themselves from these issues." MikeO, Lowensda, Cornish Steve and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36742835 For the love of whatever fucking deity may or may not be in control, what the hell is wrong with people?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) matt there is a lot of racial strife in america. black folks feel they have an unfair lot as they were enslaved and are still treated like second class citizens. some white folks (myself included) recognize this and want change, but sadly the majority of white folks do not. they believe the lies told to them by Rupert Murdoch (fox news) and other media outlets and think black folks just "play the victim". they think blacks have brought this on themselves and are mostly thugs and drug dealers and whatever other stereotypes come from a movie. the vast majority of americans are uneducated and unintelligent. the southern whites are predominently racist which i can say for a fact because i'm a northerner and was for the first 26 years of my life. living and working down south for 4 years i've heard things said at work (of all places) about black people that i've never heard before in my life. it's like the civil war never ended down here. that's why i always refer to myself as a northerner to them so they don't think they can pull out their racist jokes and comments and i'll be cool with it, cause i ain't. sad, but true. that's why donald trump is so popular. Edited July 8, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 from my perspective as a Belgian person.. I just see a lot of 'us' versus 'them' and escalated to a level that's way out of proportion for what it really is. Maybe it's the distance that does that. But I think Beyoncé is a downright criminal for her role in this, since she is one of the most privileged people in the world. She's pretty much calling for a racial war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) from my perspective as a Belgian person.. I just see a lot of 'us' versus 'them' and escalated to a level that's way out of proportion for what it really is. Maybe it's the distance that does that. But I think Beyoncé is a downright criminal for her role in this, since she is one of the most privileged people in the world. She's pretty much calling for a racial war. Mirallas, I had to look up what I thought you were referencing. If this is indeed it, it seems as if she's urging anyone who reads that open letter to go through the correct channels and demand change. I don't know what race war you're talking about. In fact, I'm not even a Beyonce fan really, but she has stood up and used her platform responsibly. Police reform is the next step, or a next step, and the public can be instrumental in making that happen. http://www.beyonce.com/freedom/ Edited July 9, 2016 by nutmegwolf203 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Agreed nutmeg. The police reform is needed very badly. I don't have a problem with Beyoncé or any black person making a call to action. As the old saying going "you can only kick a dog so many times until they bite you". White Americans can't continue to stereotype most black men as thugs and women as hoes and bitches just because of their skin color and dress code. For instance. Twerking was a vile disgusting type of dancing when black folks did it. White kids started doing it and white people called it performance art. Same shit, just viewed differently and to be honest, wrongly. It was performance art both ways, not sure why it wasn't classified as such the first time. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 There are some big time protest marches here in Atlanta tonight, and all credit to the marchers for their peaceful demonstrations. If I had a car this evening (which I don't), I would take the time to join them. MikeO and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 River Mersey ferry: Passengers rescued as vessel runs aground http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-36758499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 River Mersey ferry: Passengers rescued as vessel runs aground http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-36758499 Stuff goes on day after day Hulls torn in every way So ferry 'cross the Mersey 'Cause the dredger's the boat to love... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Airport bound, bloody stupid o'clock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Another terror attack in France. Stop the world. I want to get off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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