Gwlad Posted November 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Brilliant drive from Hamilton. That would’ve been a stroll for him today - he had so much more speed than anyone. If he starts well tomorrow he can think about winning the race. Sorry, can't resist that Romey! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 Race on record. Have to go to a wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 22 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Brilliant drive from Hamilton. That would’ve been a stroll for him today - he had so much more speed than anyone. If he starts well tomorrow he can think about winning the race. Great shout mate, drivers championship well and truly back on. Come on Lewis the world record is in your sights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Under investigation again . This time about his safety belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 After two shit races, that was epic. Unbelievable drive from Lewis against his rivals on the track and the FIA who don't seem to have the balls to get involved in this title battle. With the new parts on the Mercedes and considering that Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi have monster straights they've pulled themselves right into this title balance, it's going to go down to the wire for sure. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 17 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: After two shit races, that was epic. Unbelievable drive from Lewis against his rivals on the track and the FIA who don't seem to have the balls to get involved in this title battle. With the new parts on the Mercedes and considering that Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi have monster straights they've pulled themselves right into this title balance, it's going to go down to the wire for sure. Cracking race that. Hamilton was unreal. What’s everyone’s thoughts on the incident on lap 48 ( I think ) with max and lewis? I thought Max ran him off personally and if it was the other way around he would have gone mental. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Btay said: Cracking race that. Hamilton was unreal. What’s everyone’s thoughts on the incident on lap 48 ( I think ) with max and lewis? I thought Max ran him off personally and if it was the other way around he would have gone mental. Max definitely got away with one there again imo. Fortunately, it didn’t make any difference in the end but there’d have been a lot of complaining if Hamilton hadn’t overtaken later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Max definitely got away with one there again imo. Fortunately, it didn’t make any difference in the hand but there’d have been a lot of complaining if Hamilton hadn’t overtaken later on. Agree, however had they issued a 5 second penalty which I think would have been fair to say the least Bottas would have finish above him. It’s those moments and his response to stewards flagging him for weaving when trying to break the slip stream that I can’t stand him. Palfy and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Hamilton has the best straight line speed car so championship over with the 3 races to come. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just watched the camera footage from Verstappen’s car of Hamilton’s first attempt to over take, how the stewards have let Max get away with that manoeuvre is beyond me, if that is what you call defending the racing line then there’s something seriously wrong with the powers to be, if that was the other round the McLaren team would have been bashing the door down with there objections as we’ve witnessed with them before. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: Just watched the camera footage from Verstappen’s car of Hamilton’s first attempt to over take, how the stewards have let Max get away with that manoeuvre is beyond me, if that is what you call defending the racing line then there’s something seriously wrong with the powers to be, if that was the other round the McLaren team would have been bashing the door down with there objections as we’ve witnessed with them before. How do you think Mercedes would've reacted though? Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: How do you think Mercedes would've reacted though? They wouldn’t be fabricating evidence as McLaren did when they had their first coming together, to try and blacken the character of another driver, they’ve turned into a team of bad losers I much preferred them when Ron Denis was at the helm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Palfy said: They wouldn’t be fabricating evidence as McLaren did when they had their first coming together, to try and blacken the character of another driver, they’ve turned into a team of bad losers I much preferred them when Ron Denis was at the helm Eh? What have McLaren got to do with the Hamilton/Verstappen incident? You've lost me. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Well, Mercedes have rightly appealed the decision. So we'll see what happens but if Max gets away with it after this new evidence then something is seriously wrong. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 There is a lot seriously wrong in f1 - Mazepin Romey 1878 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Well, Mercedes have rightly appealed the decision. So we'll see what happens but if Max gets away with it after this new evidence then something is seriously wrong. It was certainly a five second penalty offence, but I don't remember a time penalty being carried over between races so probably a five place grid penalty I'd have thought. Edit: Just occurred that they could potentially add five seconds to his race time retrospectively, putting him behind Bottas which would mean Hamilton closing his lead to eight points. Romey 1878 and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: It was certainly a five second penalty offence, but I don't remember a time penalty being carried over between races so probably a five place grid penalty I'd have thought. Edit: Just occurred that they could potentially add five seconds to his race time retrospectively, putting him behind Bottas which would mean Hamilton closing his lead to eight points. I think that would be the fair outcome. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 I was absolutely stunned that Max didn't get a five second penalty, especially when there was a 5 second penalty handed to Lando Norris in Austria for running Sergio Perez off the track (I'm pretty sure someone else got a penalty too, but can't remember which driver). The fact that there was no punishment for Verstappen genuinely left me speechless as it's probably the easiest penalty call of the season so far. These are the 20 most elite drivers in the world (well, perhaps not Mazepin) so he knew exactly what he was doing. Lewis was far faster on the straights and the only way to keep him behind was to literally miss the corner. Call me a tinhat, but due to Hamilton's speed I think the FIA banked on him catching Max anyway, thus allowing them to not punish Verstappen and still see Lewis in P1. The FIA ''spoiling'' the best championship battle we've had in years is something I think they're not willing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 You think about the amount of overtakes and positions Hamilton made over the weekend - the only one that became potentially dangerous due to the opposing driver is the one with Max. He knew it was the only way he could defend him and if they let him get away with it he will keep pushing it until someone gets seriously hurt. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 How many times in the past have decisions gone for the Mercedes team? Wolff and Co really can't deal with the competition that has come their way. There is no way I am sure that Max was in the right but what did the stewards see that the viewing public didn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Lewis Hamilton says sports such as F1 are “duty bound” to make sure they raise awareness of human rights matters, as the sport prepares to race in Qatar for the first time this weekend. “I do think as these sports go to these places, they are duty bound to raise awareness for these issues,” said Hamilton. “These places need scrutiny. It needs the media to speak about these things. Equal rights is a serious issue. “However, I am aware in this place they are trying to make steps and it can’t change overnight.” Hamilton, who has consistently been a leading voice on societal issues, added: “I just feel that if we are coming to these places, we need to be raising the profile of the situation.” Just a tad hypocritical, taking the Qatari Ryals when he was a loud voice demanding immediate change for BLM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 16/11/2021 at 16:12, Romey 1878 said: Well, Mercedes have rightly appealed the decision. So we'll see what happens but if Max gets away with it after this new evidence then something is seriously wrong. Appeal rejected... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59348132 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Appeal rejected... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59348132 A bit like a ref losing control of a football game they're opening themselves up for a bit of naughtiness from the drivers now. It's a good job there aren't too many races left. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 19, 2021 Report Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Appeal rejected... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59348132 Wrong in so many ways, but hey my monies still on Lewis taking the drivers championship. Unless of course Max can do a better job at taking Lewis in the last 3 races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Five place grid penalty for Verstappen, three for Bottas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 FIA initially gave the grid positions of Bottas and Sainz reversed. I think Michael Masi is found wanting as Race Director. He needs to get a grip as too many errors and inconsistent decisions by stewards are being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: FIA initially gave the grid positions of Bottas and Sainz reversed. I think Michael Masi is found wanting as Race Director. He needs to get a grip as too many errors and inconsistent decisions by stewards are being made. Was thinking about this after the last race. He's rubbish and isn't comparable to the late Charlie Whiting. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Watched the race live and recorded the match, wise decision. Race more interesting than I expected and pleased to see Fernando get a podium. MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Watched the race live and recorded the match, wise decision. I also watched it live but didn't record the match, which I think was an even wiser decision. Romey 1878 and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 22/11/2021 at 05:50, MikeO said: I also watched it live but didn't record the match, which I think was an even wiser decision. That’s experience right there MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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