MikeO Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Hamilton around three quarters of a second faster than Verstappen in P2, only a crash or car problem is going to stop him now I think. If Max had done the sensible thing and backed off at Silverstone he'd have won it; another key moment was Bottas and Russell's crash at Imola that allowed Lewis to unlap himself, so he needs to thank his present and future team mates as well. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Someone's hit the bottle a bit early this Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Hamilton around three quarters of a second faster than Verstappen in P2, only a crash or car problem is going to stop him now I think. If Max had done the sensible thing and backed off at Silverstone he'd have won it; another key moment was Bottas and Russell's crash at Imola that allowed Lewis to unlap himself, so he needs to thank his present and future team mates as well. Don't discount when Hamilton fucked up himself (can't remember where it was) when he took Perez on the start but locked up and went straight off. I said all along that it'd be a comfortable Championship for Verstappen, so I'm very surprised it's come down to the last race. I really think Merc took their eye off the ball between seasons because they thought they had a big enough advantage over RB to do the minimum and concentrate on the regulation changes for the season after. It's a testament to their quality that they've come back the way they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Don't discount when Hamilton fucked up himself (can't remember where it was) when he took Perez on the start but locked up and went straight off. That was Azerbaijan and the difference there was that neither of them scored any points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, MikeO said: That was Azerbaijan and the difference there was that neither of them scored any points. Hamilton was nailed on for the win if he hadn't messed up, that's my point. So, they've both lost certain points. It's been quite a messy Championship this season but I guess that's what you get when the pressure is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Fascinating grid, great performance from Lando, interesting him saying he doesn't know whether to get involved with the front two or not. I don't see how he can avoid it myself, if he backs off he'll get picked off by Perez and Sainz, racing instinct will kick in and he could possibly jump Hamilton on the soft tyres; Perez and Sainz also on softs could cause Hamilton problems. I had Lewis as hot favourite but looks a bit more complicated now, bring it on! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, MikeO said: Fascinating grid, great performance from Lando, interesting him saying he doesn't know whether to get involved with the front two or not. I don't see how he can avoid it myself, if he backs off he'll get picked off by Perez and Sainz, racing instinct will kick in and he could possibly jump Hamilton on the soft tyres; Perez and Sainz also on softs could cause Hamilton problems. I had Lewis as hot favourite but looks a bit more complicated now, bring it on! isn't Hamilton on the softs as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: isn't Hamilton on the softs as well? No he starts on mediums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Palfy said: No he starts on mediums. I'm impressed he got as close as he did then. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: I'm impressed he got as close as he did then. Do you know how many sets of mediums and softs they can call on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: Do you know how many sets of mediums and softs they can call on? They probably mentioned it during qualifying but I watched it with the sound off because I was doing something else at the same time, so I can't help there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Lando is a racer so whatever he says I can't see him not trying to overtake Hamilton in the early stages.. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Lando is a racer so whatever he says I can't see him not trying to overtake Hamilton in the early stages.. Being tentative could be just as, if not more, damaging as going for it. So he may as well just race as normal. Gwlad and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, Palfy said: Do you know how many sets of mediums and softs they can call on? For the whole weekend they had two sets of the C3 (hard), three sets of the C4 (medium) and eight sets of the C5 (soft), but who has what left unused I don't know. Verstappen flat spotted a set of mediums in Q2 which I'd be pretty sure were his last new set, they'll all certainly have a new set of hards which they'll use for the second stint. The question is how long the softs last at the start of the race and whether some need to two stop. Palfy and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, MikeO said: For the whole weekend they had two sets of the C3 (hard), three sets of the C4 (medium) and eight sets of the C5 (soft), but who has what left unused I don't know. Verstappen flat spotted a set of mediums in Q2 which I'd be pretty sure were his last new set, they'll all certainly have a new set of hards which they'll use for the second stint. The question is how long the softs last at the start of the race and whether some need to two stop. Thanks mate. I did see that Verstappen had flat spotted a front tyre on one set of mediums, there was a discussion had that the position it’s in they could swap it to the other side to make it usable. I can’t wait for tomorrow this is going to be race to remember no matter the outcome or how it’s achieved. Genuinely good luck to both of them, I’m more of Hamilton fan but I must say I wouldn’t be upset if Verstappen wins he’s definitely growing on me with his style of driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: Thanks mate. I did see that Verstappen had flat spotted a front tyre on one set of mediums, there was a discussion had that the position it’s in they could swap it to the other side to make it usable. I can’t wait for tomorrow this is going to be race to remember no matter the outcome or how it’s achieved. Genuinely good luck to both of them, I’m more of Hamilton fan but I must say I wouldn’t be upset if Verstappen wins he’s definitely growing on me with his style of driving. No secret that I'm not a Hamilton fan (though I dislike him less now than I used to and if he takes the title he'll deserve it), so I'd prefer Verstappen to win it, but that's not just down to the drivers; I want the Mercedes dominance to end primarily. That said in my dream scenario Lando wins the race (not going to happen unless Lewis and Max take each other out). Hopefully next season McLaren come up with a decent car again under the new regs and we have three Brits challenging at the pointy end. Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 What’s made you dislike him less, Mike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 The FIA just handed the Championship to Verstappen. Congratulations on a job well done. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 I can't be arsed going into detail because I've got better things to do, but I have never seen someone so inept at their job, take a bow Michael Masi you absolute fucking plank. Btay, Palfy, Gwlad and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Red Bull used their pit stops wisely, and the stewards set it up for him at the end to win in a very controversial way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Can’t believe that finish. For starters that turn 8 incident max had no intention of making the apex again - just dive bombed into the corner and lewis was forced to avoid. Seocndly - the finish was a complete cluster fuck. I think Hamilton was screwed there, I’m not a fan of either but feel really sorry for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Don't deny I'm happy to see a new world champion but I think Masi is completely to blame for decisions that have been made over many races in the second half of the season. His position should be seriously under scrutiny by the powers that be. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Mercedes have launched a protest. Nothing will come of it but I’m glad they’re doing everything they can about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: What’s made you dislike him less, Mike? Can really be summed up in how he carried himself after the race today, he's become a much more mature individual. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, MikeO said: Can really be summed up in how he carried himself after the race today, he's become a much more mature individual. I agree with that. No toys thrown out of the pram, just got on with it even though inside he’s got to be devastated at the way it was taken away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 05/12/2021 at 18:06, MikeO said: Norris fucked again, if it wasn't for bad luck he'd have had no luck at all since the mid-season break. ...and today puncture costs him "best of the rest" in the driver standings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Mercedes have launched a protest. Nothing will come of it but I’m glad they’re doing everything they can about it. First protest has been rejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: First protest has been rejected. That's the overtaking behind safety car I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, MikeO said: That's the overtaking behind safety car I believe. I didn't even know there was more than one protest going in, that's how much of a mess this has been! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I didn't even know there was more than one protest going in, that's how much of a mess this has been! Second one is about what the stewards did, find it very hard to see how Verstappen can be penalised for a mistake the stewards made. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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