Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) anyone think that everton will match the 6mill?hope so or will it be another faliure after when we bidded for tha young lad from cardiff i think an just forgot about it The only way we'll do it IMO, is by offering a few more players which is just suicide with our squad. Edited July 31, 2007 by Romey 1878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENOSEsam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 The only way we'll do it IMO, is by offering a few more players which is just suicide with our squad. totally agree with you, fuck the new sadium an spend the money on the sqaud lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 If it meant spend 30 million on the squad instead of a stadium for a few seasons it would be better in the long run for our team. If wer offering 4 million for Baines we must have at least 5 million to spend already, Manny would cost 12 Baines 6 Smith 6 but we could then afford alot better maybe a good european striker get Pienaar for good few more loans our team would be a quality side now and for the future. Whats going to win us any cups, a stadium or 4 Good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Has nobody thought it could be hibbert ??? jagielka and nevile to play right back now swap hibbert and money for a left back ?? makes scence to me they rejected it maybe as they want a left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 hope its hot Hibbo, im sure it isnt him anyway, he's a better right bak than pip IMO and our luck with fullbacks im sure moyes wont let one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 http://home.skysports.com/transferarticle.aspx?hlid=479540 wigan are closing in on a left back to replace baines. if we just offerd an extra million im sure they would accept 1 million will seem like nothing when we have him here and playing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 I can see Baines playing for us this season its just how much will he cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Liverpool are now considering entering the race for him, IF they fail to land hienze according to the mirror. FUCK... Just hope we hurry are next bid up and sign the lad before anyone else can put an offer in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Its a lost cause, all the clubs who are showing interest can offer higher wages, we will have to make do with the squad we have. If this is a continuing trend, we could have the best stadium in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Sad but true Licker. How long before DM gets pissed off and goes to someone who has money to spend like West Ham, Man Shity, FULHAM, Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boy Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Its a lost cause, all the clubs who are showing interest can offer higher wages, we will have to make do with the squad we have. If this is a continuing trend, we could have the best stadium in the Championship. Crikey, the way people are talking, we have lost all our good players, replaced them with 2nd division players and we are favourites for relegation! I am as frustrated as everyone that the buys are not coming as quickly as I would like, but I follow with what Lee Carsley said on the official site today. What is the point of buying second rate players to plump the squad up? We need quality, and lets be honest, if we replace Beattie with Smith, get Baines and then Vogel finally completes, would we really be unhappy? 5 good signings of good quality, and the majority of our top 6 squad in tact. Yes I would like us to do a West Ham and chuck Millions at players, but realistically we can't and won't, and I take pride that we are not that kind of club. Tonight will be a good indication of where the squad is. Keep positive fellow blues. We are definitely moving forward as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 IF (and thats a big if) we signed Smith, Baines and Vogal and maybe lost Beattie, yes I would be happy but at the moment we not signed them and we have less players than we did last season. Yes I know we still have time for players to join however I said around 6 weeks ago about the lack of signing and was told there was time. I said 4 weeks ago about the lack of signings and was told the same thing and said the same 2 weeks ago and even 1 week ago and nothing has really changed apart from a lot of players from Everton and DM coming out saying that he wants to sign players but they to expensive. Everton 2 years ago in my opinon were in the same position with getting into Europe but not being able to add to the squad and we know whats happened and I would like to think that that lesson has been learned. DM said about a week ago that there was money there for 1 good signing, however still nothing dispite being linked with Smith and Baines. Yes I know its only being linked with the players and nothing for certain that DM wants them (apart from Baines), but sorry for me once again from Everton its all words. yes I am most prob going to get people telling me to chill out and chear up and things will happen and its all depresing and yes you are right but for me it is. I don't remember Everton of the 80's (to young) but I see that with the players that we have we have the chance to start pushing forward again, however for that to happen they need to continue to invest in the squad and not move backwards and at the moment in my eyes they are not doing that. Either they have the money or they don't. If they don;t then BK needs to get something sorted and get some money in because with all the other clubs getting investement I can honeslty see us moving back to where we were a few years ago and if that happens next time we won't be so lucky in moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Boy Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hey Adam, I agree that we need to invest, and I agree that it is a little frustrating, but all I am saying is that it is not all doom and gloom. Even with what we have, we are in OK shape. The players that are gone (Pistone, Wright, Naysmith) never really played last season and will not be overly missed (Naysmith apart, who always did OK in my view). I mean I don't think Pistone played last year did he? We have brought in 2 fit and hungry YOUNG players, with good calibre who will add depth to the squad. So really we are about the same in "fit" numbers. With VDM actually getting games under his belt, for the first time in ages, there is another player to add to the mix who really didn't help us last year. I agree with investment being needed totally but I would rather get good players on a limited budget than do a Sunderland and spend shed loads on average players. Would we be happy with £5m for Richardson, I know I wouldn't. We are all entitled to opinions and I am not saying you are wrong mate, not at all. Just think it is not all doom and gloom just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 We've raised the bid to £5million according to Radio City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Mark, Do you know if that is £5m plus the player or just straight £5m???? The Boy, I agree with what you saying as well. You are right its not all doom and gloom and don't get me wrong I know it could a lot worse. Is richardson worth £5m no but when you look at the prices that a lot of clubs are paying for players then you have to say is that the new prices. Would i have richardson, yes maybe I would as think he might be able to do a job for us down the left which we all know is something we need. Would I like to pay £5m for him no but then again i would not want to pay the £6m they paid for Nugent or all the other high prices for the players, however when you need a certain type of player then sometimes you have to pay more. If we paid £5m for Richardson and he set up 15 goals scored 5 and got us into the top £6 and sold him the year after to Madrid for 9m then it would be a good bit of business. I thought that Beattie at £6m was good but turned out not to be the case. What I am trying to say is I agree that don't want to waste money on ave players by paying over the odds but sometimes you have to take a chance and if everyone is paying that money then its not paying over the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozzie22 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 im confused about the panic if im honest our squad is stronger than last season (vaughan and victor will come of age, VDM is flying, Da Silva is getting more confident with every game, beattie has lost a ton of weight, pistone has gone and we have signed three very good players in Lukas J, Jags and Pienarr) so we might not be able to win the carling cup, like anybody cares. i dont mind if we get knocked out of the second round of the carling cup and the third round of the fa cup if it means we attack the uefa cup and the end up in the uefa cup spot in the league come the end of the season which teams are people actually worried about ? which teams have really improved this pre-season ? please god dont say garbage like fulham and pompey who have paid over the odds for average players. I think we are one of the few teams in the second tier of the premiership who have improved their squad by keeping our best players and adding the squad with two excellent ready made signings would you rather buy good quality players or players for the sake of it like bolton seem to be doing ? as for baines, nobody excepts the first bid for a player..lets all calm down and see what happens in the next few days as for the daily mirror report about liverpool enterting the race to sign him, is this the same mirror who reported et'o and henry wanted to sign for liverpool ? oh yeah, so it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peoplesc1ub Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 He would be a good asset can see the 5mill rising tho if liverpool dont get heinze were fucked . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Point taken hans, however your comment regarding lets see what happens over the next few days were said (maybe not by you) about 6 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago and 2 weeks ago and even a week ago and nothing has changed. The teams like Fulham, Wigan, Newcastle, Tottenham have all improved there squad. Can't say they are ave players cos just cos they might have been for the previous clubs they might not be for the new clubs just look at Arteta. Noone wanted to take a chance on him. We could spend £5m on a player and be crab (What ever his name was) or spend 2m and get a gem (Cahill) Also I would not mind if we brought in a few good quality players but at the moment we have not we have signed 1 Can't say that pinnear is a good quality player has he not played in this league before and didn't have the best of last season either. If we sign Baines and Smith and Vogal like I said before then I will be happy. Untill then and with time ticking away I won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 here here. Our frustration is for our concern over the club, if you total up how much money we have spent in the last three season its buttons, we have been very lucky in getting Arteta and Cahill for next to nothing really. We went into the last Euro campaign without even signing any squad players, after a fourth place finish in the prem gave us more money than all but the top 3. Last year we bought Lescott, Johnson and Howard, WHO HAVE BEEN DECENT SIGNINGS, but we got rid of Kroldrop 3.5M Bent 2M Kilbane 2M Davies 3.5M. so that almost covered the outlay. This seasons the same, a Euro opportunity with an already small squad, gets rid of Wright, Pistone off the wage bill and Naysmith for a million we are having to sell or part exchange players before we can bring others in, so i have to ask the question, where has all the prem money for a 4th and a 7th finish gone, and all the TV money. ???? Any manager who is having to sell players in order to buy players means he has no money in the purse, and that cries out to me that this club is in a worse state than we think, thats my reason for the concern. We must have had 30 odd to 40 million for each of the last 3 seasons and this year its going up to 50-60 million, how can we still be in so much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Mark, Do you know if that is £5m plus the player or just straight £5m???? Not got a clue mate. Maybe it was case of Wigan only valuing the player we were giving them at £1million, so we've upped the cash. But I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 wigan are either trying to milk us or stall us till manc U liverpool or man city come in witht the mega bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 wigan are either trying to milk us or stall us till manc U liverpool or man city come in witht the mega bucks Theyre hardly milking us are they? They want the price that has previously been agreed to by another club, it's called business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENOSEsam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 come on everton stop pissing around, just give in a sign sum1 without tryin to get the best deal before the shite try an get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 all very good views looking at the situation from both sides. Baines would be a great signing he is only what 21/22 great tackler great pace and he has a trademark free kick which is also handy if its to far out for micky. I am very confident that we will sign baines smith and vogel to be honest. i see the shitty skunks want rid of charles n'zogbia! yes please davey! great player on the wing and hes a left winger!! i have also heard they only want 2-3 million for him! am sorry but if he is availbe for that sort of price then we must i repeat MUST make a bid. and he is only 22 is he?? what are your thoughts on the lad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 AGREED!! COME ON BILL! i am not worried bout liverpools bid thats fuckin garbage!! they fine in the left backs postion. he would turn them down if we can raise the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Baines is at the match tonight sitting with Vaughan! Just seen it on evertontv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Baines is at the match tonight sitting with Vaughan! Just seen it on evertontv More than just a coincidence then, lets hope we get this done and dusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 More than just a coincidence then, lets hope we get this done and dusted Couldnt agree more. Maybe Wigan have given him permission to discuss personal terms while the two clubs sort out a fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENOSEsam Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 ur right romey mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Some lad on NSNO says his brother (I think) works for Wigan and he said Baines has been at Goodison all day and will move for £6million. It seems to match up. Guess who else is at the game? Benni McCarthy with Pienaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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