Tim Cahill

[duncanmckenzieismagic 3,941]

hardly writing him off..it's time for younger blood...is it so wrong to see him not struggle through games and be a passenger for the most part?

 

Lol forgot to mention, is it not writting him off if you think all he will do is struggle through games and be a passenger?

[marcopaulo 1,980]

no..but that's what he did last season...and if he carries on playing 90 mins per match that's what he'll become on a permanent basis i'm not sure that's disputable..his game relies on a good engine and a physicality he no longer seems to have..he still does have something to offer i'm sure but not from a starting position

[duncanmckenzieismagic 3,941]

no..but that's what he did last season...and if he carries on playing 90 mins per match that's what he'll become on a permanent basis i'm not sure that's disputable..his game relies on a good engine and a physicality he no longer seems to have..he still does have something to offer i'm sure but not from a starting position

 

 

Because he was carrying injuries and being played out of position

[Memmaclub 7]

I think TC the longer he carries on the less contribution he has and the more he degrades his legacy as an Everton great. I think if he went now for a big payday he would go down as a legend.

[Pearso 83]

Watching Australia vs Japan last night he did appear to be very hungry. He was everywhere and he was going up and winning crosses all game. Maybe a few weeks rest was all he needed to refresh and come back fit and strong. Then again he won't be going up against 5 and a half foot CB's in the prem..

[marcopaulo 1,980]

Because he was carrying injuries and being played out of position

 

was he being played out of position that much though? to be honest i thought the deeper he was the better he seemed to be...says a lot for his attacking form

[hafnia 5,244]

I've said for a while now, for us to evolve and change for the better he needs to go. Great servant but for me he is too slow, technically very average and his reputation will only decline. Barkley needs his spot.

[duncanmckenzieismagic 3,941]

was he being played out of position that much though? to be honest i thought the deeper he was the better he seemed to be...says a lot for his attacking form

 

 

Thats because that is his position!

 

He is not and never will be an out and out forward, he was being asked to lead the line for Everton for most of last season and that isnt his game. He is always better when he makes late runs into the box from deep.

 

He was only aloud to do this last year once Jelavic came. I

 

If Cahill is still with us for all of next season I will put money on him getting into double figures

[marcopaulo 1,980]

i meant deep as in fellaini position..i thought that's were he played best..and that has not been his position for everton...his position is behind the striker and that's where he has had his success but not last season

[duncanmckenzieismagic 3,941]

i meant deep as in fellaini position..i thought that's were he played best..and that has not been his position for everton...his position is behind the striker and that's where he has had his success but not last season

 

Thats because he didnt play there last season until Jelavic arrived

[marcopaulo 1,980]

he did that with saha though? or was i imagining that? and you said his position is deeper?

[hafnia 5,244]

urrrrgh Cahill and Saha, bad memories, nearly fell over each other as they both occupied the same spaces.

 

Looking forward to seeing if Barkley gets the chance to play behind Jelavic and work some magic using Jelavic's clever movement...that does excite me as one thing we've seen is Barkley has guile..

[Australian_TC 0]

First time poster.

 

Anyway, I know Timmy had a disappointing season in 2011/12, however if his performance in the Australian-Japan game is anything to go by, he is back to his best. Even though he failed to score, he dominated and gave the Japanese a litany of headaches and some people back here in Australia are labeling his first half as one of Tim's best 45 minutes in a Socceroo shirt.

 

I realise it is a different kettle of fish to the EPL, however this was a performance not seen from Timmy since the 2010 World Cup. If he can replicate that performance on a regular basis this season, there is no reason why he should leave Everton.

[MikeO 9,699]

First time poster.

 

Anyway, I know Timmy had a disappointing season in 2011/12, however if his performance in the Australian-Japan game is anything to go by, he is back to his best. Even though he failed to score, he dominated and gave the Japanese a litany of headaches and some people back here in Australia are labeling his first half as one of Tim's best 45 minutes in a Socceroo shirt.

 

I realise it is a different kettle of fish to the EPL, however this was a performance not seen from Timmy since the 2010 World Cup. If he can replicate that performance on a regular basis this season, there is no reason why he should leave Everton.

 

Interesting post....worthy of discussion.

 

Sadly all of us at the top half of the planet are in bed just now (apart from me and I'm just on my way there).

 

Hang around...see you in the morning .

[pete0 1,245]

First time poster.

 

Anyway, I know Timmy had a disappointing season in 2011/12, however if his performance in the Australian-Japan game is anything to go by, he is back to his best. Even though he failed to score, he dominated and gave the Japanese a litany of headaches and some people back here in Australia are labeling his first half as one of Tim's best 45 minutes in a Socceroo shirt.

 

I realise it is a different kettle of fish to the EPL, however this was a performance not seen from Timmy since the 2010 World Cup. If he can replicate that performance on a regular basis this season, there is no reason why he should leave Everton.

The majority of us still agree he can cut it but should be as an impact sub, like you have stated he was great for 45 mins. He's been a great servant to the club (could have went to a champs league club but chose to stay), and last year felt like we were repaying him back for that respect by playing him every week. Now we have a tough decision of keeping him as a key player or using him as a super sub or letting him go. Personally I think the 2 latter options are the most sensible, and Cahill should be the one to decide wether he'd rather sit on the bench or go abroad for one last big pay check.

[StevO 3,001]

He can be a great impact sub, sadly the cost of his wages are too high for us to have him on the bench. If he wants to go, let him. He deserves to make the choice himself after all the years he has given to the club.

[DavisJD 54]

How you can want to get rid of Cahill is beyond me.

 

Great squad player, agreed, last year wasn't his best, but he looked very good as the team lifted in the last 1/3 of the season.

 

Against Japan he was immense, brought players in by competing for balls he had no right to win, with his experience and timing.

 

Everton don't have alot of depth, last season, at one point we had a bench that was full of teenagers who hadn't played a single Premier League game, so to want to sell a player, who can play up front on his own, behind a striker, or midfield is complete madness.

 

To many people always thinking the grass is greener on the other side, every week wanting to get rid of players like Hibbert, Neville and Cahill. Yes they all have there weakness', but 1 on 1, I would back them to win against any player in the premier league, and that is there quality.

 

How many times did Hibbert negate a threat down the rights last season, Neville put in block or come in as a second defender, Cahill battle through midfield to force a turnover and break up the opposition play.

 

These people are the glue of the squad, they bring the squad together behind the scenes and set the tone to get the players working as a team. They are Everton.

 

Without them, last year could have seen us staying in that relegation scrap.

 

And then there's the teenagers we all lay our hope in year in year out, waiting for another Rooney.

 

Who do you think the teenagers look to but the experienced squad members about work ethic, desire to win, overcoming injuries, and having the right mindset to be at the top of a volatile industry where your every move is under the magnifying glass, and you can go from the hero to forgotten in a very short time.

 

We need our experienced players, stop hoping to flog them off if you want Everton to continue to be successful.

[c1982 1,886]

Well said DavisJD!!!

[hafnia 5,244]

He's been a great player because of his attitude rather than ability. Granted, his leap and heading ability place him up there with sharp, ferguson, gray, dean, shearer, klose, bierhoff, speed, drogba.

 

He shouldn't be at the club on his decline. It happened to Reid and it wasn't nice to see.

[sibdane 1,459]

 

How many times did Hibbert negate a threat down the rights last season, Neville put in block or come in as a second defender, Cahill battle through midfield to force a turnover and break up the opposition play.

 

These people are the glue of the squad, they bring the squad together behind the scenes and set the tone to get the players working as a team. They are Everton.

 

We need our experienced players, stop hoping to flog them off if you want Everton to continue to be successful.

 

1) Are they adding anything to the attack? Not really. I agree that they add to the locker room atmosphere; however, that isn't enough. I would like to keep all three, but don't really want to see all three playing. I'm not calling for a mass exodus of our experienced players, just a realization that it's time for other options. I still love Cahill and think he would make a great impact-sub though. Personally, I have a soft spot for Neville too. I appreciate what Hibbert has done for the club. I just don't agree that it's worth keeping them because of what they have done rather than what/how we should be doing now. I

 

2) Define success. I don't think finishing in 7th is a success, unless you consider how we started. If you look at how we ended the year -- second best form after January -- it's a failure. Granted, We didn't have Jelavic to put the goals in for us.

 

Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I'm not ungrateful. We need finances, therefore, we need to sell some players who aren't as valuable so we can keep the ones who are.

[pete0 1,245]

I appreciate what Hibbert has done for the club. I just don't agree that it's worth keeping them because of what they have done rather than what/how we should be doing now. I

 

2) Define success. I don't think finishing in 7th is a success, unless you consider how we started. If you look at how we ended the year -- second best form after January -- it's a failure. Granted, We didn't have Jelavic to put the goals in for us.

 

Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I'm not ungrateful. We need finances, therefore, we need to sell some players who aren't as valuable so we can keep the ones who are.

Hibbert made more assist than Baines last season, and arguably had his best ever season performance wise. He was also the second most used player the season we finished 4th. The side of midfield is a much higher priority.

[sibdane 1,459]

Hibbert made more assist than Baines last season, and arguably had his best ever season performance wise. He was also the second most used player the season we finished 4th. The side of midfield is a much higher priority.

 

Baines had more goals. Kidding, obviously -- just pointing out that having numbers greater than someone else on the squad doesn't necessarily make an argument. I also don't see how pointing out that he helped us finish fourth is relevant considering it was the 04/05 season(feels like ages). I'm not arguing against keeping Hibbert -- only stating that at some point we have to move on due to our financial situation. I'll admit that I really can't see Hibbert playing for any other club, nor do I want him to, unless it means that we can get funds for another player. Obviously wouldn't sell him now because we don't have many options for RB. Ideally, I'd love to keep all three, because they all love Everton, and I love that.

 

Agree with you that the midfield is a higher priority.

[pete0 1,245]

Baines had more goals. Kidding, obviously -- just pointing out that having numbers greater than someone else on the squad doesn't necessarily make an argument. I also don't see how pointing out that he helped us finish fourth is relevant considering it was the 04/05 season(feels like ages). I'm not arguing against keeping Hibbert -- only stating that at some point we have to move on due to our financial situation. I'll admit that I really can't see Hibbert playing for any other club, nor do I want him to, unless it means that we can get funds for another player. Obviously wouldn't sell him now because we don't have many options for RB. Ideally, I'd love to keep all three, because they all love Everton, and I love that.

 

Agree with you that the midfield is a higher priority.

Pointing out that he was one of our main players in the most successful season of the last decade and that he's a better player now than then. Done just as good as any other full back last season in my eyes.

[marcus jones 96]

Pointing out that he was one of our main players in the most successful season of the last decade and that he's a better player now than then. Done just as good as any other full back last season in my eyes.

Aye, what's all this overlapping nonsense and whipping in inviting crosses stuff from him then? Stick to bloody defending!!!

[scouse 50]

Why are we discussing Hibbert in a Cahill thread?

[Matt 5,406]

Why are we discussing Hibbert in a Cahill thread?

Cahill means Hibbert in Australian....

[sibdane 1,459]

Pointing out that he was one of our main players in the most successful season of the last decade and that he's a better player now than then. Done just as good as any other full back last season in my eyes.

 

A better season -- stats-wise.

[MikeO 9,699]

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/07/cahill-set-to-stay-at-everton/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29

[Iamryanstover 34]

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/07/cahill-set-to-stay-at-everton/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29

Im calling BS on this one considering yesterday Cahill would have been at training, and I could have sworn I saw that Cahill was in Vegas last week.

[pete0 1,245]

Im calling BS on this one considering yesterday Cahill would have been at training, and I could have sworn I saw that Cahill was in Vegas last week.

He might have an extended break as he was on tour with Australia.

[c1982 1,886]

Off to New York Red Bulls after £1m bid has been accepted according to BBC.

[c1982 1,886]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7929382/Red-Bulls-calling-Cahill

[Louis 797]

Let him go. It looks like now is the time that Moyes will be building his second team. His original signings are slowly being moved on.

[Mogsy 313]

Will be sad if he goes, probably our most committed player for a long time, would put him up there with big dunc for having passion for the club, but I think the time is right for Tim to go! I for one salute him!

[Quinn31 809]

Incredibly sad to see him go. I've had his shirt for the past few years, a true Everton legend and a class act. Will miss him dearly, but I think it's the right time for him to move on.

[MikeO 9,699]

Confirmed on the OS....

 

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/07/23/blues-agree-cahill-deal

[Mogsy 313]

Bye bye Timmy u are and always will be an Everton legend

[Matt 5,406]

deserve more than a nominal fee for him..... Still has a few years on his contract doesnt he?

 

either way, good time for him to leave. Its going to be strange not seeing him in a blue shirt after so long though...

[adziom 20]

I expect its more about freeing up the wages than the transfer fee. Maybe the agreement with the MLS involves Landon Donovan moving in the opposite direction?

[Romey 1878 9,632]

I never thought I'd say this but it's fantastic news. Just wish we'd sold him a year ago and got a bit more money out of it.

[Droobie 94]

I never thought I'd say this but it's fantastic news. Just wish we'd sold him a year ago and got a bit more money out of it.

 

I'm gutted to see him go, but agree here... He had a lot of heart for the club, but last season his legs just weren't there. All the best Tim.

[sibdane 1,459]

I expect its more about freeing up the wages than the transfer fee. Maybe the agreement with the MLS involves Landon Donovan moving in the opposite direction?

 

I'd like to think so. I believe it's possible, since the MLS basically acts as one team. Then again, I doubt the Galaxy or MLS would let Donovan go for a small fee. He's big for marketing reasons. I'm still not sure how the MLS works to be honest.

[pete0 1,245]

http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/news/2012/07/red-bulls-release-statement-tim-cahill-1

Strange one, thought they would have wanted to shout about signing Cahill.

[adziom 20]

I'd like to think so. I believe it's possible, since the MLS basically acts as one team. Then again, I doubt the Galaxy or MLS would let Donovan go for a small fee. He's big for marketing reasons. I'm still not sure how the MLS works to be honest.

 

Nor do I, although Donovan's contract expires before January unless the situation has changed there. I always understood that we never made a serious bid for him because the MLS would never let their poster boy leave. Although as we've "come to an agreement with MLS", there's every possibility that Donovan was a part of the discussions. Let's not get our hopes up though!

[Romey 1878 9,632]

http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/news/2012/07/red-bulls-release-statement-tim-cahill-1

Strange one, thought they would have wanted to shout about signing Cahill.

 

 

They cant shout about a signing they haven't made yet.

[flaminfox 34]

I wanted timmy gone but now I can't imagine him not being here... always figured he would retire here or something.

 

Legend= timmy cahill

[badaids 323]

so long timmy and thanks for all the fish. was proud to have you at our club.

[Pearso 83]

Was hoping he'd stay til January at least so I could get over and watch him play from Australia.. Shame

[Bill 959]

End of an era.

 

Tim Cahill has been an inspiration to Evertonians young and old in his time here, and i didn't think i would see the day come, when he would leave.

 

He will be a big loss to all those in the dressing room because of his love for the club, and the enthusiasm and attitude he has for us has always been so openly displayed.

 

Thanks Tim, have a nice relaxing time winding down, you've earned it.

 

 

[troy8 24]

Sad day

 

Thanks for the memories Timmy, you'll always be a Goodison legend (and here's hoping maybe even an Everton Giant one day). Good luck in the big city.

[rubecula 861]

End of an era.

 

Tim Cahill has been an inspiration to Evertonians young and old in his time here, and i didn't think i would see the day come, when he would leave.

 

He will be a big loss to all those in the dressing room because of his love for the club, and the enthusiasm and attitude he has for us has always been so openly displayed.

 

Thanks Tim, have a nice relaxing time winding down, you've earned it.

 

This.

[marcopaulo 1,980]

End of an era.

 

Tim Cahill has been an inspiration to Evertonians young and old in his time here, and i didn't think i would see the day come, when he would leave.

 

He will be a big loss to all those in the dressing room because of his love for the club, and the enthusiasm and attitude he has for us has always been so openly displayed.

 

Thanks Tim, have a nice relaxing time winding down, you've earned it.

 

well put bill

 

thanks tim

 

i'm glad to see him go before he becomes a joke

[StevO 3,001]

He goes with the best wishes of everyone, he's always been a commited blue, and has the ink to prove it.

Will always be remembered as one of the best of my generation, and the way some Liverpool fans are talking about him on social networks shows just how good he has been. They don't want to see him again!

 

All the best Tim!

[Barney Tabasco 3]

The "great servant" tag is something given out a bit too freely, but in Tim's case it's certainly appropriate.

 

I'm sure he'd agree that he's not someone possessed with silky skills or will ever come close to being our best ever player, but that enthusiasm, determination, bravery, love of the club and, perhaps most of all, THAT heading ability should be what we remember him by.

 

Personally, I think we should hold him in much higher regard than Duncan Ferguson.

 

To be fair, at his age and the signs that it showing, it's a great deal for the club (particularly wages saved) and think he'll have another 3 or 4 years at the top in MLS.

[marcopaulo 1,980]

sad for tim that he could never win anything here with everton..and also sad that we never got to say goodbye....text topic on talksport is about him today..best pound for pound signing ever in the premier league? gotta be up there

[Romey 1878 9,632]

One of my favourite Everton players ever, he's been the poster boy of what this club has become during Moyes' reign and goes with my best wishes. But I'm happy he's gone, not sad. Not because I don't like him any more but because it was getting painful watching his decline and I didn't want to be annoyed seeing his name in the starting 11, it's not what he deserved. Now he gets to be one of the star players of a whole league and still look like he's at the top of his game.

 

Good luck, Timmy.

[hafnia 5,244]

Good luck and thanks for the memories Tim, class act.

 

Any young player who wants to make the most out of what they have got just needs to look at Tim, he wasn't the most technically gifted player but my word he made sure he used what he had and applied 100% in everything he did. If Barkley takes Tim's attitude and application he can be the best in the world - that is how mentally strong Cahill was for us.

 

Deserves all the plaudits he will get, and I'm glad he will not be here too long to hear groans and moans because he isn't up to it any more. He deserves to go with a great reputation and not a failing one.

[EFC-Paul 1,036]

One of my favourite Everton players ever, he's been the poster boy of what this club has become during Moyes' reign and goes with my best wishes. But I'm happy he's gone, not sad. Not because I don't like him any more but because it was getting painful watching his decline and I didn't want to be annoyed seeing his name in the starting 11, it's not what he deserved. Now he gets to be one of the star players of a whole league and still look like he's at the top of his game.

 

Good luck, Timmy.

 

This sums it up for Me also.

 

A cracking player and as Marco say's pound for pound We got a real bargain and a gem of player.

 

All the best Tim & I'm sure We will see him back in some capacity some day

[GoodisonRoad 333]

End of an era.

 

Tim Cahill has been an inspiration to Evertonians young and old in his time here, and i didn't think i would see the day come, when he would leave.

 

He will be a big loss to all those in the dressing room because of his love for the club, and the enthusiasm and attitude he has for us has always been so openly displayed.

 

Thanks Tim, have a nice relaxing time winding down, you've earned it.

 

Well said Bill,

 

Just been on SSN, all the stand out goals he's got for us. That over head kick against Chelsea was something special! give me goosebumps! Only Gerrard, Ronaldo and Lampard have got more goals from midfield since he made his debut in 04 as well, great player, great professional.

[Matt 5,406]

I reckon they should retire the 17 shirt if hes not getting a testimonial