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TBF Pirlo's was disguised well, I thought he was putting it into the bottom corner. The Maicosuel one is very poor.

 

The only difference for me is that Joe Hart dived out of the way of Pirlo's....the Braga 'keeper stood still.

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How can Manchester City be our rivals? Certainly not in terms of (expected) league accomplishments this season, as they'll either be league champs again or second or third place at the very least. Everton won't be a part of that, and I expect a 6th or 7th place finish in all honesty, so they're not really placing rivals so to speak, that can be reserved for teams like Spurs or even Chelsea this season. Or even Newcastle again, teams that maybe won't win any league honors but will be involved in the fight for a Euro place or top six finish. Furthermore, I would ideally want any team that plays Liverpool to beat them, even the plastics now. Lesser of two evils really.

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Fenerbahce 1 - 1 Spartak Moscow so Spartak will be in the Champions League. Yobo played the full 90 minutes, Bily got subbed into the game after 67 minutes. Bily did well, Yobo really gave the ball away a lot with bad long passes in those final minutes when they were chasing the goal that would take them to overtime.

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How can Manchester City be our rivals? Certainly not in terms of (expected) league accomplishments this season, as they'll either be league champs again or second or third place at the very least. Everton won't be a part of that, and I expect a 6th or 7th place finish in all honesty, so they're not really placing rivals so to speak, that can be reserved for teams like Spurs or even Chelsea this season. Or even Newcastle again, teams that maybe won't win any league honors but will be involved in the fight for a Euro place or top six finish. Furthermore, I would ideally want any team that plays Liverpool to beat them, even the plastics now. Lesser of two evils really.

 

Opinions and more opinions. I'm confident we have a team good enough to challenge the top 4 this season. Arsenal are severely weakened having lost Fabregas, Nasri, Van Persie etc so I don't see them being a serious threat to the title, nor do I see them in the top 4. We are on a high at present, while Liverpool and Spurs are dropping points. A few more weeks like that and we will have quite a lead. Newcastle must deal with Europe, and I think we are a better team when both are on form, and much more experienced. When City have won the league a few more times, then I'll put them on a higher level than everybody else, but as it is, we are still rivals, if you base it on expectations for the season. We haven't just been playing well for 3 games, but for much of last season too, so it's time to be positive. City would hate to play us at the moment.

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Of course we want Everton to beat any, and all opposition we encounter, if only it was that simple, but the thing is, if there is a choice between one team and another getting a result, i.e. Manchester City vs Chelsea or Liverpool vs Arsenal, I would invariably favor one over the other, it's just an inherent dislike I have for certain clubs. I'm sure that applies to a fair number of participants on these pages.

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Of course we want Everton to beat any, and all opposition we encounter, if only it was that simple, but the thing is, if there is a choice between one team and another getting a result, i.e. Manchester City vs Chelsea or Liverpool vs Arsenal, I would invariably favor one over the other, it's just an inherent dislike I have for certain clubs. I'm sure that applies to a fair number of participants on these pages.

 

 

I know it's not that simple, we're obviously not going to beat them all. But, when other teams are playing each other I always want the result that most benefits Everton. So if Chelsea are playing City and a Chelsea win benefits Everton then a Chelsea win is what I want.

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I would indeed go along with that, for the benefit of the club that is, but it would be a bit of a hard pill to swallow for one or two teams I genuinely dislike.

 

Such an instance and one prime example I could mention would be the last day in 1997/98 when we needed a point at least against Coventry City and for Chelsea to beat Bolton. In the end both came to pass, but I really would have prefered another team to have done us that favor. Beat Bolton, Yes, they had to, although a draw for them on the day against whichever opposition would have been been enough to relegate them, had we beaten Coventry that day. Sometimes, and often enough, two teams play, which does not effect Everton in the slightest, the last day Manchester derby such as one, where I clearly favor one side over the other for a result, and it was such an important fixture with so much on the line. I think that's the best case scenario for me in this debate and leave Toffees out of it, but I've been very upfront about my feelings on this.

 

Having some techinical difficulties, and getting late, so we can all continue this another time maybe.

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Such an instance and one prime example I could mention would be the last day in 1997/98 when we needed a point at least against Coventry City and for Chelsea to beat Bolton. In the end both came to pass, but I really would have prefered another team to have done us that favor.

 

What was your problem with Chelsea back then? They were a long way from being the "plastics" of of recent history that you dislike so much.

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What was your problem with Chelsea back then? They were a long way from being the "plastics" of of recent history that you dislike so much.

 

They played in Royal blue, it really is an awful colour.

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Wigan lead already at home to Stoke City though a Shaun Maloney penalty (6 minutes).

 

Here's to hoping Stoke pull their finger out.

I'm happy Wigan have got off to a good start, was worried they'd finally drop this year.

Howcome you prefer Stoke to Wigan?

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That result works in our favour. 4 points ahead of Spurs, I'd of took that at the start of the season. Strongest I've ever seen the league, everyone will lose more points than usual this season. I can only see Man City and Chelsea breaking away and the rest having a free for all, hopefully QPR can get a result today and stunt City for now.

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I'm not gutted from an Everton point of view it's just that a put a bet on that included Spurs winning, that's £55.75 that I could have had that AvB has fucked up for me sad.png

Bad times, I avoided them. My accy was about 50% wrong, tough weekend lots of draws.

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i could never bet on everton..i'd feel dirty takin the money if we lost

 

I never ever bet on Everton, more often than not I used to give them the benefit of the doubt in big games and it'd fuck me over.

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I had a gambling addiction for years, gave it up about 2006. It fucking had me, caused problems with my family and had me almost in despair at times, found it impossible to get away. It's a slippery slope, and as with other things in life, if you can't handle it correctly, it can take over your life almost and does get a grip on you. Eventually managed to pull away from it all, and it was one of the best decisions I ever did, never looked back.

 

Norwich, not my favorite side by any length, got another good result today and seem to be getting by with Lamberts departure, and I felt like giving them a bit of recognition. Think Swansea did well again, as did West Bromwich, unfortunately. Hibernian doing well in the SPL, got a result at Celtic yesterday and still up there in the league.

 

Leeds United let in three I'm sure of it, but can't remember the opposition, ahead of our next round fixture.

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GOALLLL!!!!! After saying they weren't clicking Arsenal go and score and it's Podolski with the goal with a great left-footed finish. The Gunners broke up-field on a counter attack with Cazorla he found the run of the German with a lovely through ball and he made no mistake firing past Reina, great goal

 

Liverpool 0 Arsenal 1

 

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am i the only person who sees nothing in shelvey? he's awful

Reminds me of Ireland but lacks the attacking flair.. so yeah he's got fuck all.

 

Did anyone notice how poor Liverpool and Arsenals teams looked on the team sheets before the game. Nothing imposing offensively or defensively. This year is a great opportunity for us to leap frog over a few clubs.

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As it stands with Southampton drawing and Villa winning the RS are 2nd bottom!

 

Would keep United behind us and crush a bit of confidence out of Newcastle if they stayed like this...with the Liverpool position a bonus.

 

Too much to ask though I think.

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I hate Spanish football it's boring and the refs are jokes, Granada are 2-0 down anyway and no way their player could have moved out the way of Ronaldo. Ref gives a second yellow, the lad had only made 2 tackles all game.

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I have to take my hat off to Southampton and maybe send them a little good luck mojo.

 

To have to play Wigan, City, United, and Arsenal in your first Premiership games is quite a task. Then they face Villa and Everton ha ha. Welcome to the Premiership lol.

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awww bless the little sweetheart..what the fuck has he got to be sad about? really gets on my fuckin nerves when they whinge

 

 

He's apparently unhappy he hasn't been offered a new contract yet, despite having THREE YEARS left on his current deal!

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It's all a stunt to get more money IMO, like what Rooney did when he said he was thinking about going to Manchester City. I like Ronaldo footballing-wise and mostly in person too (I just hate it when he gets a bit arrogant) and considering his goal to game ratio I can see why he's expecting a raise.

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It's all a stunt to get more money IMO, like what Rooney did when he said he was thinking about going to Manchester City. I like Ronaldo footballing-wise and mostly in person too (I just hate it when he gets a bit arrogant) and considering his goal to game ratio I can see why he's expecting a raise.

 

So you hate him all the time then?

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