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Cornish Steve got a reaction from StevO in Longest Thread! for Everton Discussion
These are very impressive stats.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from StevO in Sean Dyche
If they had sacked him, maybe we'd be grousing about being relegated or maybe we wouldn't: We don't know.
They didn't sack him, and we're definitely not grousing about being relegated: We do know.
But let's move on. Dyche will most likely be our manager when the new season starts. I suggested that his goal this past season was to finish higher up the table than last season. What goals would you give him for next season? The same? Maybe we can put our differences about our manager aside and focus on what we expect him to achieve and how he should be measured.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Wiggytop in Sean Dyche
If they had sacked him, maybe we'd be grousing about being relegated or maybe we wouldn't: We don't know.
They didn't sack him, and we're definitely not grousing about being relegated: We do know.
But let's move on. Dyche will most likely be our manager when the new season starts. I suggested that his goal this past season was to finish higher up the table than last season. What goals would you give him for next season? The same? Maybe we can put our differences about our manager aside and focus on what we expect him to achieve and how he should be measured.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Matt in Sean Dyche
If they had sacked him, maybe we'd be grousing about being relegated or maybe we wouldn't: We don't know.
They didn't sack him, and we're definitely not grousing about being relegated: We do know.
But let's move on. Dyche will most likely be our manager when the new season starts. I suggested that his goal this past season was to finish higher up the table than last season. What goals would you give him for next season? The same? Maybe we can put our differences about our manager aside and focus on what we expect him to achieve and how he should be measured.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from dunlopp9987 in Sean Dyche
If they had sacked him, maybe we'd be grousing about being relegated or maybe we wouldn't: We don't know.
They didn't sack him, and we're definitely not grousing about being relegated: We do know.
But let's move on. Dyche will most likely be our manager when the new season starts. I suggested that his goal this past season was to finish higher up the table than last season. What goals would you give him for next season? The same? Maybe we can put our differences about our manager aside and focus on what we expect him to achieve and how he should be measured.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Btay in Longest Thread! for Everton Discussion
These are very impressive stats.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Romey 1878 in Longest Thread! for Everton Discussion
These are very impressive stats.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from AlbanyNYToffee in Sean Dyche
If they had sacked him, maybe we'd be grousing about being relegated or maybe we wouldn't: We don't know.
They didn't sack him, and we're definitely not grousing about being relegated: We do know.
But let's move on. Dyche will most likely be our manager when the new season starts. I suggested that his goal this past season was to finish higher up the table than last season. What goals would you give him for next season? The same? Maybe we can put our differences about our manager aside and focus on what we expect him to achieve and how he should be measured.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Matt in Sean Dyche
Does anyone remember Arteta's first season with Arsenal? He began by presiding over Arsenal's worst start in 46 years: 13 points from 12 games and 15th in the league table. Here's his run of 10 games leading up to the holiday period in his first full season as manager (2020):
Man City 1-0 Arsenal LOST
Arsenal 0-1 Leicester LOST
Man Utd 0-1 Arsenal WON
Arsenal 0-3 Aston Villa LOST
Leeds 0-0 Arsenal DRAW
Arsenal 1-2 Wolves LOST
Spurs 2-0 Arsenal LOST
Arsenal 0-1 Burnley LOST
Arsenal 0-0 Southampton DRAW
Everton 2-1 Arsenal LOST
But the owners had patience. They stuck with him, and now look where they are.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from StevO in Sean Dyche
If you're given a project to lead, what matters is whether you deliver what's promised on time. What was promised on this occasion was a higher league position than last year. After hiring the project manager, though, he was told to manage with whatever resources were left over from a previous project, his budget was to be cut dramatically, and he'd have to spend a good deal of time working with government auditors investigating past financial shenanigans - even while ensuring everyone on the project is happy. After a fast start, work on the project got bogged down as the project manager adjusted to the new situation, but everyone pulled out the stops to deliver early - even after auditor fees and penalties ate into project margins.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Matt in Sean Dyche
As employees and managers, we're ultimately judged by our results. Over the last 6 games, Everton are 6th in the table. Over the last 10 games, Everton are 6th in the table. 'nuff said.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Matt in Board/Owners Related Stuff
Still not making any for the rest of us, though.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from RuffRob in Sean Dyche
The best example of not being trigger-happy is Arteta at high-flying Arsenal. The best example, and worst situation, of being too trigger-happy is relegated Birmingham City. You're right that there's a clear lesson here.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from StevO in Sean Dyche
The best example of not being trigger-happy is Arteta at high-flying Arsenal. The best example, and worst situation, of being too trigger-happy is relegated Birmingham City. You're right that there's a clear lesson here.
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from dunlopp9987 in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Matt in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Gwlad in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Romey 1878 in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from MikeO in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from RuffRob in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Formby in Sean Dyche
Here's the bottom line as I see it:
1) Job done this season. Without the points deduction (and its psychological impact), we'd be firmly mid-table and probably upper half.
2) For the first time in several years, and again despite the points deduction, we faced no final game dramatics to avoid relegation.
3) This was achieved after being forced to sell some of our top talent prior to the start of the season. Can you imagine how many more points we could have secured with Anthony Gordon still on the roster?
4) It was also achieved with one of the smallest rosters we've seen in recent years, the result of our financial straits. Those we brought in were risky but savvy transactions on minimal budget.
5) We now have one of the best defences in the league, a blend of experience and youth that has benefited Branthwaite and Mykolenko in particular.
6) We've definitely seen changes in tactics, although stability and consistency have clearly been the focus. I would add that, in previous seasons, plenty complained about all the chopping and changing in team selection and tactics. (I would venture to say that consistency is one of the big reasons for our strong defence.)
7) Dyche just won manager of the month and has received significant praise from other managers and pundits alike for doing a phenomenal job this season. Of the many positive comments, take Alan Shearer's: "What a job he’s done this season, Sean Dyche, in really difficult circumstances, a brilliant job."
We can nitpick, for sure. The style of play has not been that exciting, although there have been glimpses of a more positive style. Experience has trumped youth, for sure: Young and Coleman over Patterson; Gueye over Onana; Pickford over the others even for cup games; and so on. We cannot second-guess, though. Would youth have won more points? I doubt it. In tough circumstances, most managers would turn to experience.
IMO, Sean Dyche should be guaranteed the whole of next season, with sensible checkpoints and milestones, of course, to monitor progress. This year saw solid progress under difficult circumstances. Next year, we should expect to see more progress, not just treading water. As long as we're always making progress, why ever would we change managers?
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Cornish Steve got a reaction from Palfy in Board/Owners Related Stuff
True story. Decades ago, I attended a meeting with a company founded by an entrepreneur named Andrew Ory. His company was based on an operating system he'd named Oryx (an alternative to Unix). We were meeting with four VPs of the company, and we were all wearing suits. During the meeting, in walked a scruffy individual, in jeans and T-shirt, with a tray with teapot, cups, and saucers. He poured us all tea but, to my surprise, stayed in the room. At the next break, since I try never to overlook anyone, I went up to him, introduced myself, and thanked him for the tea. He shook my hand and introduced himself as Andrew Ory, founder and owner of the company - and principal tea maker. You're never too important to make tea - as Earl Grey proved.
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Cornish Steve reacted to RuffRob in Sean Dyche
very selective when considered against a whole seasons work.
Manager tries things, they don't work out, he move things around as players develop to the coaching style etc - isn't that just management and coaching?
Myko has been playing his best football in a Everton shirt under Dyche - so whatever Myko needed to up his game in the PL, then Dyche has helped him get there. Great management or coaching.
Dyche just got 'lucky' defensively - and the players just sorted ithemselves out defensivley on the pitch to become one of the top team defensively in the PL is utter unonsense.
If you truly don't beleive that Dyche et al with team set up and coaching has made this one of the tightest defenses in the PL, then the likes of Dyche simply have no chance.
You have made up your mind that you don't like him and so will pick at any fault you can - be is deserved or not.
Something is done well - but you put that down to luck and the players. Something done not so well, it the coaching or lack of it, management style, team selection and so on.
There is plenty to pick at with Dyche, but defensive performances really isn't one of them, so by doing so you just come across as simply 'having it in for him'.
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Cornish Steve reacted to StevO in Board/Owners Related Stuff
That’s a cool story. But I’m still not making you a brew, Steve. 😂