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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

So you’re in the camp of I told you so if it goes wrong and keep quiet if it succeeds, give me a credible solution other than 777, and where you believe we will be if this deal doesn’t happen, and where you believe we will be in if the deal does happen. The harsh reality is the club are in perilous state financially have openly been for sale for over two years had numerous players wishing to buy and after due diligence walking away, not because we are such a great investment but because we are a huge gamble that they don’t believe is worth the risk. We now have a buyer who is prepared to take the risk and believes can turn us around has already been bankrolling the club because the current owners are not prepared to put another penny in the club and on that basis would be prepared to see us go into receivership, yet people are still rehashing old news about 777 to try and stop the only option available to save this club from going through. They may not be the perfect option but fortunately they are an option far better than declaring ourselves bankrupt, people like yourselves and esk need to come up with solutions rather than just poo poo the only way out that is available to us, unless of course you believe unconfirmed paper talk of other American and Indian buyers waiting in the background if the 777 deal falls through. Where were these buyers 24 months ago, 18 months ago, 12 months ago, 6 months ago, just more bullshit to be added to all the other bullshit that has been written and regurgitated for months and months. I haven’t seen or heard of supporters demonstrating against 777 buying the club because most sensible supporters know deep down in their heart of hearts that they form our own real chance of survival, yet a minority who don’t have another answer or solutions would want to destroy that. Wake the fuck up for fuck sake we aren’t the dream team that everyone is fighting over, we are fucking mess that’s had one serious offer in 2 years and people want to kick that into touch.

 

Why do supporters need to come up with the solutions????

My stance is quite simple, I’m all for us getting sold but I think it’s right and proper that any red flags are highlighted and investigated before it’s too late and we end up as the new Blackburn Rovers or Sunderland

it is then up to 777 to allay those fears and provide evidence to the powers that be that they are credible owners and that it’s not a leveraged buy out which would put us even further in the shit

If they do that then fine we will all be happy but if they can’t then the deal should and will be blocked

No Idea why you are getting arsey about it, you are clearly happy to sell to any Tom, Dick or Harry no matter the consequences whilst others want to make sure we get this right and do full due diligence so let’s just leave it there

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Basically it’s saying in a long winded way that they haven’t got the money to pay Moshiri and to pay off the club’s debts then have the money to take the club forward. So what if he can’t tell us of any one who wants to buy us who has the capital to cure all our problems then don’t waste our time with the bullshit. 

He is drawing attention to the fact 777 could be a disaster for us and backing up his opinion with cold hard facts so it’s a million miles from being bullshit

I don’t get why he gets so much stick, he predicted this mess we are in a long time ago and just got abuse from the ‘it’s not your money’ brigade 

He was right then and looks to be right now

It’s fair enough if you are not arsed about this type of thing but I think he is dead right to be drawing attention to it

15 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Where have I said that klopp or postecoglu + this squad = Liverpool or spurs? 
 

I haven’t for the reason that it does not make sense. 
 

Everton for its expenditure and attendance should be a top 10 team minimum. The fact that it isn’t is due to wasted money on players and piss poor executive management.   Relegation should not even be a concern for us. Dyche for all his faults like Allardyce has a way of getting enough points to survive and is overly pragmatic. Thats what he does on the tin. That’s why he was brought in and he said himself that he knows his job is to steady us ready for the next manger, the sooner that happens then it means the quicker he’s done that job. 
 

Everton as a club will not fill a 58000 seater stadium playing football like we have. Fans are already getting pissed if within the stadium.  You can argue all day and say “well we nearly got relegated” - the fact is that isn’t gonna wash with many of our supporters over the age of 45 who seen us win leagues. 
 

once we are in a position where we are ready to push on, the question will be asked of him as to whether he can adapt and take us there…. At the moment I don’t think so and regardless of how the manager is doing - we should always have succession planning.

Let’s not get carried away with the job he’s doing. He’s doing ok but I still have huge concerns over his in game management. Its poor. I have concerns over him selecting players who should be dropped.  Far too stubborn to change.

 

To be fair you are not the first and won’t be the last to pigeonhole Dyche as some sort of latter day Tony Pullis but the fact remains none of us know whether or not he has the ability to evolve his tactics with the team

He had nine years at Burnley where he wasn’t afforded the luxury of trying to play more expansive football due to the financial restrictions he was working under and did an excellent job there

He has come here and is arguably operating under even tighter restrictions and he has succeeded in getting a tune out of a squad that many more illustrious manages failed dramatically to

So personally I think he has earned the right to try and take us forward