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duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Palfy in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

It probably is a generation thing, I did elude to that in my initial post
Some younger fans from the Premier League era consider success to be finishing in the top 6, some of them don’t want Europa League either so it’s top four or bust
For me success in football terms means having a trophy to show for it. Maybe it’s because the younger fans have never actually experienced a successful Everton side that they feel this way , who knows , I just don’t get it
For some of them, the most ‘successful’ Everton side they’ve seen was 2004 when we finished 4th but to me that is not success because we still won fuck all and therefore have no trophy to show for it. Take a look at the clubs honours list and you will not find any mention of that season
Success to me is winning trophies, and success breads more success
I want us to win every game we play so the apathy by some to the chances of winning a domestic trophy is not something I will ever be able to get my head around
These shouts of it being an unwanted distraction are bollocks, a distraction to what??
We haven’t as a club take this competition seriously since the 80’s and we’ve still not got a pot to piss in from any of the other competitions

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from barryj in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

As always you’ve missed the point.
Back then we had a young up and coming side and the mere fact they got to Wembley and more than matched The Shite over the two games, we would have won it if the ref had not ignored Hansen's hand ball, instilled a lot of belief in them. It made them realise they could compete with the best
So much so that we went on to have a strong finish in the league that season and were back at Wembley a few months later to lift the FA Cup and the most successful ever Everton side was born
Most say the real turning point for that side was even earlier , that it was a late equaliser by Adrian Heath against Oxford in the quarter final of a cup competition, guess which one?
Either way if Kendall had your attitude to winning trophies back then he may have rested players against Oxford and lost that game , lost his job and the great side of the 80’s may never have come to fruition
By the way it was the FA Cup final where Watford played their second keeper, so should we not try and win that either?

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Sibdane in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

It probably is a generation thing, I did elude to that in my initial post
Some younger fans from the Premier League era consider success to be finishing in the top 6, some of them don’t want Europa League either so it’s top four or bust
For me success in football terms means having a trophy to show for it. Maybe it’s because the younger fans have never actually experienced a successful Everton side that they feel this way , who knows , I just don’t get it
For some of them, the most ‘successful’ Everton side they’ve seen was 2004 when we finished 4th but to me that is not success because we still won fuck all and therefore have no trophy to show for it. Take a look at the clubs honours list and you will not find any mention of that season
Success to me is winning trophies, and success breads more success
I want us to win every game we play so the apathy by some to the chances of winning a domestic trophy is not something I will ever be able to get my head around
These shouts of it being an unwanted distraction are bollocks, a distraction to what??
We haven’t as a club take this competition seriously since the 80’s and we’ve still not got a pot to piss in from any of the other competitions

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from barryj in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

Scraps on the table my arse, that’s like a homeless bloke who is suffering from malnutrition because he hasn’t eaten for months turning down a steak because it was bought from Aldi
We have done a fantastic job of not getting distracted by the League Cup but it’s not helped us win a fucking thing in 26 years, I think maybe we need a new plan

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from StevO in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

As always you’ve missed the point.
Back then we had a young up and coming side and the mere fact they got to Wembley and more than matched The Shite over the two games, we would have won it if the ref had not ignored Hansen's hand ball, instilled a lot of belief in them. It made them realise they could compete with the best
So much so that we went on to have a strong finish in the league that season and were back at Wembley a few months later to lift the FA Cup and the most successful ever Everton side was born
Most say the real turning point for that side was even earlier , that it was a late equaliser by Adrian Heath against Oxford in the quarter final of a cup competition, guess which one?
Either way if Kendall had your attitude to winning trophies back then he may have rested players against Oxford and lost that game , lost his job and the great side of the 80’s may never have come to fruition
By the way it was the FA Cup final where Watford played their second keeper, so should we not try and win that either?

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from barryj in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

Spot on, it was the same for us and we didn’t even win it
Just go and read Graeme Sharps autobiography. He says that the moment that the greatest side in Everton’s history began to really believe in themselves was when they went toe to toe with The Shite at Wembley in the League Cup final. That was the springboard to all their success , but what does he know Pete says it’s meaningless so we might as well go another 26 years without a trophy

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from nutmegwolf203 in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

Spot on, it was the same for us and we didn’t even win it
Just go and read Graeme Sharps autobiography. He says that the moment that the greatest side in Everton’s history began to really believe in themselves was when they went toe to toe with The Shite at Wembley in the League Cup final. That was the springboard to all their success , but what does he know Pete says it’s meaningless so we might as well go another 26 years without a trophy

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Romey 1878 in Carabao Cup August 17, 2019

Scraps on the table my arse, that’s like a homeless bloke who is suffering from malnutrition because he hasn’t eaten for months turning down a steak because it was bought from Aldi
We have done a fantastic job of not getting distracted by the League Cup but it’s not helped us win a fucking thing in 26 years, I think maybe we need a new plan

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Bailey in Carabao Cup August 16, 2019

Scraps on the table my arse, that’s like a homeless bloke who is suffering from malnutrition because he hasn’t eaten for months turning down a steak because it was bought from Aldi
We have done a fantastic job of not getting distracted by the League Cup but it’s not helped us win a fucking thing in 26 years, I think maybe we need a new plan

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Palfy in Carabao Cup August 16, 2019

Spot on, it was the same for us and we didn’t even win it
Just go and read Graeme Sharps autobiography. He says that the moment that the greatest side in Everton’s history began to really believe in themselves was when they went toe to toe with The Shite at Wembley in the League Cup final. That was the springboard to all their success , but what does he know Pete says it’s meaningless so we might as well go another 26 years without a trophy

duncanmckenzieismagic reacted to Romey 1878 in Carabao Cup August 16, 2019

Winning eh? Who the fuck wants to do any of that nonsense? Only crazy fuckers.

duncanmckenzieismagic reacted to aaron in Carabao Cup August 16, 2019

Go and ask Man City if it means nothing. It was the start of their trophy haul in the recent years.
Honestly cant believe I've read people turning their nose up at a meaningful trophy. Absolute disgrace that.

duncanmckenzieismagic reacted to pete0 in Carabao Cup August 16, 2019

The league Cup is a meaningless competition that the top teams give their reserves a run out in. Like StevO says if we get the final it's more about the fans having a day out.
Winning would be a bonus to a piss up but no way would winning the league Cup satisfy me as winning a trophy just like the preseason Cup competitions don't. I'm surprised they've not scrapped it yet.

duncanmckenzieismagic reacted to Palfy in Carabao Cup August 16, 2019

For me the league cup is a prestigious trophy, and if managers treat it as a nothing trophy that’s not worth going out to win from the off, then in my eyes they are not only disrespecting the history of a top cup competition they are also disrespecting the supporters of the clubs they work for.

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Vranny in Cenk Tosun August 16, 2019

I would happily keep him if we can get rid of Niasse, even if it’s only until January
Moise Keen is still young and unproven so needs to be given time

duncanmckenzieismagic got a reaction from Bailey in Cenk Tosun August 15, 2019

I would happily keep him if we can get rid of Niasse, even if it’s only until January
Moise Keen is still young and unproven so needs to be given time