Formby

I think we can get top 6, as many have said (and ought to, really). Cups are a lottery, but would be lovely. I think we can win a derby, too - preferably an away one. Certainly very optimistic this season. 

I think we can get top 6, as many have said (and ought to, really). Cups are a lottery, but would be lovely. I think we can win a derby, too - preferably an away one. Certainly very optimistic this season. 

Was hoping for the maid in the lime-colored panties but I'll take what I can get

I hope Nurses Cramer and Duckett are on hand for you, Mike. Take care and hope you're out of there soon to resume the combat missions. Little references I'm sure you'll get.

Succinct scouting report there! Made me chuckle.

Watched a few videos of him now. 
He just doesn’t look like a player who would do well in the premier league. Falls over more than Richarlison, and easier to knock of the ball. Isn’t very strong, and not particularly fast. Honestly not sure why we’re going in for him. 
 
But so far the transfer window has been amazing, so if we do... then Carlo knows best. We hire these people because they sometimes see what we don’t.

Just read your Friday post now, Mike. What awful news - and what a dreadful thing to happen to your wife. Please accept my condolences. Thinking of you at this very sad time and wishing you all the strength to get through it. 

Just read your Friday post now, Mike. What awful news - and what a dreadful thing to happen to your wife. Please accept my condolences. Thinking of you at this very sad time and wishing you all the strength to get through it. 

Just read your Friday post now, Mike. What awful news - and what a dreadful thing to happen to your wife. Please accept my condolences. Thinking of you at this very sad time and wishing you all the strength to get through it. 

Nothing make sense when it comes to what is and isn’t acceptable with Coronavirus. 
My thoughts will be with you on Friday mate. 

Fretless like Jaco or slappy like Flea?

Playing a jazz bass, Mark?

Big, big opportunity tonight - just the kind I dread. I am sure Ancelloti will be urging carpe diem but, in true Everton fashion, I am sure it will be more a case of carpe vinum.

There are, from recollection, two words for hell in the Bible - one is Sheol, one is Hades. One is the place of the dead, the other refers to Gehenna which was the physical rubbish dump outside Jerusalem. Hell in an everlasting damnation sense comes from this. The fires of Gehenna are the personification (or, more properly, a metaphor) of the fires of hell, not the literal hell.
Jesus speaks about it most clearly in Mark 9. 

Thank you for making it as simple as possible. We do indeed to be at cross purposes. I am talking about you comparing Tory austerity to Nazism and you are asking me to justify why I don't think half the population are scumbags and morons.
To answer your question first. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and engage in positive discourse - there are those I vehemently disagree with over a whole range of issues, but who are very far from being morons and scumbags. Amongst this fraternity are people of varying religious persuasions, political persuasions, those with a social axe to grind, and those with none. I believe they extend the same largesse and courtesy to me when I speak to them. We debate, we talk, we disagree, we agree. I understand that people vote Tory for many different reasons and amongst them may have been those who warned about austerity, just as there may have been amongst them 'scumbags and morons' who actively pursued the policy with little regard for the consequences. To say that everyone who votes Tory is a 'scumbag and a moron', however, is not born out in my experience. With you it maybe, I guess. What I am pretty sure about is that 50% of the population are not morons and scumbags. It is dismissive and reductive and the worst kind of pigeon-holing. As I don't vote Tory, it would be wrong of me to hazard what policies they had that outweighed the misery austerity was going to inflict, so I can't really answer that.
My question to you was a simple one, I thought. Namely, does this wretched austerity that has inflicted misery and cut short lives fall short of the Nazi's genocide campaign and Government complicity in murders in NI or the war crimes of the Gulf war. I would say it does.    

Yes, I do think we should be more understanding of the way people think. 
You have just dismissed half the country as scumbags and morons, presumably because they don't think like you. I'm not sure whether you really think that, but I can't see it's a helpful opinion.
The extreme examples you gave would not get tolerance and acceptance - I am sure there are hundreds of other crimes and misdemeanours which would be equally reprehensible. I understood Chach's comment to have a more general application - political discourse, social discourse - and welcomed it.
 

Compared to Finnegan's Wake, its an easy read. And, unlike Finnegan's Wake, it really is worth it!
Had a profound effect on me growing up - inventive, surreal, memorable characters and situations, hugely funny and tragic. For many years I thought I was Yossarian. I enjoyed Something Happened by JH, too.

I think he was referring to the biblical JC, Mike.

I don't think running the country properly enters their thinking, though. Not one for citing Peter Hitchens too often (more impressed with his late brother) but I did think he was right when he said the Conservative Party was not conservative at all, but a machine for obtaining power. I would go further than that, and say it is a machine geared for maintaining power. I think this has become a huge problem in politics, generally.

I don't think running the country properly enters their thinking, though. Not one for citing Peter Hitchens too often (more impressed with his late brother) but I did think he was right when he said the Conservative Party was not conservative at all, but a machine for obtaining power. I would go further than that, and say it is a machine geared for maintaining power. I think this has become a huge problem in politics, generally.

You can build a case for many of the things you mention (Government cruelty, uselessness, lack of planning, hypocrisy), but to make a parallel with the Nazis is an affront to those who lived under the regime, and the families of those affected.  

Is Pete comparing the Tory Party to Germans who belonged to the Nazi Party and didn't know what was going on? I certainly didn't read it that way. I presumed it was to the 'SS killing machine'.

The tactics you refer to do not amount to the Nazi's Final Solution. They reflect a government out of touch with its people, who carry out iniquitous and heartless policies.
It's ironic that Lammy cites Churchill, who had decidedly racist views himself.
 

The tactics you refer to do not amount to the Nazi's Final Solution. They reflect a government out of touch with its people, who carry out iniquitous and heartless policies.
It's ironic that Lammy cites Churchill, who had decidedly racist views himself.
 

You can build a case for many of the things you mention (Government cruelty, uselessness, lack of planning, hypocrisy), but to make a parallel with the Nazis is an affront to those who lived under the regime, and the families of those affected.