General Election/UK Politics

[johnh]

General Election called for June. Just surprised that its taken so long. It will be interesting to see if there is a 'Brexit' effect.

[Matt]

[Matt]

Well, you know where you stand with her; she's consistently inconsistent on what she says. Or should it be, she's consistent at doing 180 degree turns on what she says.

 

 

[MikeO]

Well, you know where you stand with her; she's consistently inconsistent on what she says. Or should it be, she's consistent at doing 180 degree turns on what she says.

 

 

 

Vote for me and you'll get exactly the opposite of everything I say .

[holystove]

Are you two standing in the way of the country coming together? :shaking fist:

[Matt]

 

Vote for me and you'll get exactly the opposite of everything I say .

I've just been looking back at some of her u-turns/contradictions.

 

1- Gordon Brown has no democratic mandate after Tony Blair resigns. Takes over from Cameron...

2- Remain voter, Leave bulldozer

3- No early GE... Launches a GE

4- National insurance

5- Hinkley Point

 

That's after 5 minutes of google....

[Matt]

Are you two standing in the way of the country coming together? :shaking fist:

I'm not allowed a voice, so I'll just shout on the side

[johnh]

'When the facts change I change my mind.'

 

John Maynard Keynes

[Matt]

'When the facts change I change my mind.'

 

John Maynard Keynes

Shouldn't make such brazen statements to start with then

 

Let's not pretend that she's doing this for anything other than her own gain thoguh

Edited April 18, 2017 by Matt

[Sibdane]

So what exactly does this mean? I'm not familiar with a leader calling for a general election -- a general election for what?

[MikeO]

So what exactly does this mean? I'm not familiar with a leader calling for a general election -- a general election for what?

 

The entire government.

[Formby]

 

 

Let's not pretend that she's doing this for anything other than her own gain thoguh

 

Which politician doesn't?

 

Which politician hasn't changed their mind?

[Matt]

 

Which politician doesn't?

 

Which politician hasn't changed their mind?

Very true, but the amount of time she's about-faced in the last 12 months is staggering

[Bill]

She's playing it smart, she knows there is nobody out there who can put up any sort of challenge, Corbin most definitely won't.

She wants everybody singing from the same hymn sheet so there is a smoother exit from brexit. I can see where she's coming from.

[holystove]

She's playing it smart, she knows there is nobody out there who can put up any sort of challenge, Corbin most definitely won't.

She wants everybody singing from the same hymn sheet so there is a smoother exit from brexit. I can see where she's coming from.

I agree on the smooth exit pov. A much bigger majority and she'll no longer be hostage of the far right wing of her party who demand hard brexit asap. She'll have freedom to compromise with other member states now and will only have to justify herself in 2022.

 

No opposition party is a definite bonus.

 

Does seem opportunistic though. the whole point of the Fixed-Term parliament act was to prevent PMs from calling a general election based on polls. Theresa May did just that.

Edited April 18, 2017 by holystove

[rubecula]

There you go folks, if you want to remain in EU, vote for the Lib Dems and get another referendum.

[Matt]

There you go folks, if you want to remain in EU, vote for the Lib Dems and get another referendum.

If I could, I would. But, like Bill said, May has been very clever in her timing and planning - there's no chance the outcome is anything but a Conservative win

[johnh]

She still requires the support of 2/3rds of MP's to hold the election.

[Matt]

She still requires the support of 2/3rds of MP's to hold the election.

Do you think she's doing this without having a very good idea that it'll go ahead?

[pete0]

I've just been looking back at some of her u-turns/contradictions.

 

1- Gordon Brown has no democratic mandate after Tony Blair resigns. Takes over from Cameron...

2- Remain voter, Leave bulldozer

3- No early GE... Launches a GE

4- National insurance

5- Hinkley Point

 

That's after 5 minutes of google....

Almost everything in her first speech as well.

[Romey 1878]

There you go folks, if you want to remain in EU, vote for the Lib Dems and get another referendum.

I'd vote Conservative before I'd vote for that shower. The scrote that is Tim Farron just wants to hold referendums until he gets the result he wants.

[markjazzbassist]

i don't get it. i thought your system she's prime minister already and continues to hold that position until the coalition in parliment dissolves, then new partnerships are created and a vote is taken then. has parliment dissolved? why hold an election when she's already PM?

[Palfy]

I'd vote Conservative before I'd vote for that shower. The scrote that is Tim Farron just wants to hold referendums until he gets the result he wants.

Sounds good to me anyway quite like yellow.

[Matt]

i don't get it. i thought your system she's prime minister already and continues to hold that position until the coalition in parliment dissolves, then new partnerships are created and a vote is taken then. has parliment dissolved? why hold an election when she's already PM?

because she wasn't voted in, she inherited the leadership once Cameron chickened out of his responsibilities

[Romey 1878]

because she wasn't voted in, she inherited the leadership once Cameron chickened out of his responsibilities

Neither was Cameron, we vote for a party and not a person.

[Palfy]

Neither was Cameron, we vote for a party and not a person.

Can't remember hearing the party having a say on the election. Her own MPs never had a clue.

[johnh]

i don't get it. i thought your system she's prime minister already and continues to hold that position until the coalition in parliment dissolves, then new partnerships are created and a vote is taken then. has parliment dissolved? why hold an election when she's already PM?

Mark, the real reason is that,currently, she (the Conservatives) have a very small majority in the House of Commons. With Labour in such disarray, she is now confident that the Conservatives will win with a large majority. This will kill two birds with one stone. First, she will be voted in as PM. Second, she will have a large majority and therefore an ability to introduce policies without fear of being outvoted.

[MikeO]

Mark, the real reason is that,currently, she (the Conservatives) have a very small majority in the House of Commons. With Labour in such disarray, she is now confident that the Conservatives will win with a large majority. This will kill two birds with one stone. First, she will be voted in as PM. Second, she will have a large majority and therefore an ability to introduce policies without fear of being outvoted.

 

Was about to post similar, she's doing it to strengthen her position and (sadly) it definitely will.

[markjazzbassist]

thanks john and mike i get it now.

[Matt]

Neither was Cameron, we vote for a party and not a person.

people should vote for a party, but that's not always the case. I won't go further because I'll mix up topics...

 

Anyway, John summed it up.