johnh Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 General Election called for June. Just surprised that its taken so long. It will be interesting to see if there is a 'Brexit' effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Well, you know where you stand with her; she's consistently inconsistent on what she says. Or should it be, she's consistent at doing 180 degree turns on what she says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Well, you know where you stand with her; she's consistently inconsistent on what she says. Or should it be, she's consistent at doing 180 degree turns on what she says. Vote for me and you'll get exactly the opposite of everything I say . Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Are you two standing in the way of the country coming together? :shaking fist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Vote for me and you'll get exactly the opposite of everything I say . I've just been looking back at some of her u-turns/contradictions. 1- Gordon Brown has no democratic mandate after Tony Blair resigns. Takes over from Cameron... 2- Remain voter, Leave bulldozer 3- No early GE... Launches a GE 4- National insurance 5- Hinkley Point That's after 5 minutes of google.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Are you two standing in the way of the country coming together? :shaking fist: I'm not allowed a voice, so I'll just shout on the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 'When the facts change I change my mind.' John Maynard Keynes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 'When the facts change I change my mind.' John Maynard Keynes Shouldn't make such brazen statements to start with then Let's not pretend that she's doing this for anything other than her own gain thoguh Edited April 18, 2017 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 So what exactly does this mean? I'm not familiar with a leader calling for a general election -- a general election for what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 So what exactly does this mean? I'm not familiar with a leader calling for a general election -- a general election for what? The entire government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Let's not pretend that she's doing this for anything other than her own gain thoguh Which politician doesn't? Which politician hasn't changed their mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Which politician doesn't? Which politician hasn't changed their mind? Very true, but the amount of time she's about-faced in the last 12 months is staggering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 She's playing it smart, she knows there is nobody out there who can put up any sort of challenge, Corbin most definitely won't. She wants everybody singing from the same hymn sheet so there is a smoother exit from brexit. I can see where she's coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) She's playing it smart, she knows there is nobody out there who can put up any sort of challenge, Corbin most definitely won't. She wants everybody singing from the same hymn sheet so there is a smoother exit from brexit. I can see where she's coming from. I agree on the smooth exit pov. A much bigger majority and she'll no longer be hostage of the far right wing of her party who demand hard brexit asap. She'll have freedom to compromise with other member states now and will only have to justify herself in 2022. No opposition party is a definite bonus. Does seem opportunistic though. the whole point of the Fixed-Term parliament act was to prevent PMs from calling a general election based on polls. Theresa May did just that. Edited April 18, 2017 by holystove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 There you go folks, if you want to remain in EU, vote for the Lib Dems and get another referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 There you go folks, if you want to remain in EU, vote for the Lib Dems and get another referendum. If I could, I would. But, like Bill said, May has been very clever in her timing and planning - there's no chance the outcome is anything but a Conservative win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 She still requires the support of 2/3rds of MP's to hold the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 She still requires the support of 2/3rds of MP's to hold the election. Do you think she's doing this without having a very good idea that it'll go ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I've just been looking back at some of her u-turns/contradictions. 1- Gordon Brown has no democratic mandate after Tony Blair resigns. Takes over from Cameron... 2- Remain voter, Leave bulldozer 3- No early GE... Launches a GE 4- National insurance 5- Hinkley Point That's after 5 minutes of google.... Almost everything in her first speech as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 There you go folks, if you want to remain in EU, vote for the Lib Dems and get another referendum. I'd vote Conservative before I'd vote for that shower. The scrote that is Tim Farron just wants to hold referendums until he gets the result he wants. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 i don't get it. i thought your system she's prime minister already and continues to hold that position until the coalition in parliment dissolves, then new partnerships are created and a vote is taken then. has parliment dissolved? why hold an election when she's already PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I'd vote Conservative before I'd vote for that shower. The scrote that is Tim Farron just wants to hold referendums until he gets the result he wants.Sounds good to me anyway quite like yellow. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 i don't get it. i thought your system she's prime minister already and continues to hold that position until the coalition in parliment dissolves, then new partnerships are created and a vote is taken then. has parliment dissolved? why hold an election when she's already PM? because she wasn't voted in, she inherited the leadership once Cameron chickened out of his responsibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 because she wasn't voted in, she inherited the leadership once Cameron chickened out of his responsibilities Neither was Cameron, we vote for a party and not a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Neither was Cameron, we vote for a party and not a person.Can't remember hearing the party having a say on the election. Her own MPs never had a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 i don't get it. i thought your system she's prime minister already and continues to hold that position until the coalition in parliment dissolves, then new partnerships are created and a vote is taken then. has parliment dissolved? why hold an election when she's already PM? Mark, the real reason is that,currently, she (the Conservatives) have a very small majority in the House of Commons. With Labour in such disarray, she is now confident that the Conservatives will win with a large majority. This will kill two birds with one stone. First, she will be voted in as PM. Second, she will have a large majority and therefore an ability to introduce policies without fear of being outvoted. Sibdane and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Mark, the real reason is that,currently, she (the Conservatives) have a very small majority in the House of Commons. With Labour in such disarray, she is now confident that the Conservatives will win with a large majority. This will kill two birds with one stone. First, she will be voted in as PM. Second, she will have a large majority and therefore an ability to introduce policies without fear of being outvoted. Was about to post similar, she's doing it to strengthen her position and (sadly) it definitely will. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 thanks john and mike i get it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Neither was Cameron, we vote for a party and not a person.people should vote for a party, but that's not always the case. I won't go further because I'll mix up topics... Anyway, John summed it up. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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