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One Question:
 
 
11 years ago who would have put David Moyes on their shortlist?
 
- no premiership experience
- some success with Preston NE, but their were plenty of other championship teams doing better.
- no european experience
 
He obviously had the right skills to do a fantastic job though!
 
I think Martinez is a similar mould and he would be my choice.
 
If we selceted an experienced (top division and european) and successful with a large transfer/wage budget and European I think it would be a very expensive mistake with us probablyt ending up the next Leeds Utd.

I think a common theme that I am seeing is that people who assess a managers performance based on common perceptions and very few accompanying facts - (pretty much on the back of a fag packet) think that Martinez would have us leaking goals, losing games but playing nice football...
 
It's all the same when when people refer to Moyes Everton as 'plucky', 'hard to beat', 'built on a shoe string' rather than - 'full of international quality' 'highly paid', 'top 8 salaries'.
 
If people are going to have a strong opinion on Martinez, they need to make the relevant research to have an informed opinion. Steve_E just demonstrated the power of google.
 
I believe in Martinez, my concerns are his defensive record but taking into account the quality of his defenders and his salary budget I think he can overcome them at Everton, he has missed his strongest defenders for some time now. Attacking wise and philosophy he is school of science.
 
Martinez added to Sky Sports: "We have conceded far too many goals. Going forward we have been magnificent, I think it's been our best season in terms of performances, but the injuries in the back line are something I have never seen before.

"To have four, five, even six players missing in the back line and our keeper affected with injury - our captain Antolin Alcaraz, Ivan Ramis out for the season, Ben Watson with a broken leg, (Jean) Beausejour, (Maynor) Figueroa... We have to have so many different partnerships and keep changing, and that caused us problems."
 
I think even the likes of the top 4 teams would struggle with that situation, bravo to martinez for winning the FA cup.

Win the league, and win the cup, and you are in our good books, but come second, and runner up in the cup, and you're sacked.
 
Poison job that one. You can't manage in this country and guarantee trophies.

Ive not seen Brentford play this season, but I admit I'm intrigued by Jake Bidwells development. He has made 50 appearances for a team who is in the League 1 Playoff final in a few days. I would be disappointed if he wasn't given a chance to compete next season. I know he hasn't been as highly touted as some players, and doesn't develop on Footy Manager, but something has to be said for his appearances, and the teams performance.

Great shout. Not really considered but actually, could do very well. Works with little, to no financial clout and still produces very good teams.
 
Worked miracles with Hertha, considering their lack of funds and also saw the sale of their best players, only to finish well. Doing a grand job at Borussia Moch., 4th and 8th place finishes in the last two seasons, with a very limited squad.
 
Will keep an eye on that one, thanks DRS.

Surely he proved that at the weekend and in last seasons relegation scrap?
 
Sounds like they should also have Beausajour back which would be a big bonus because Espinoza just insnt a RB/RWB!

McCarthy would be mine.

Wigan will lose tomorrow and Martinez will be given a good send off by Wigan on Sunday as he prepares to take over at Goodison - I actually think it will be that simple!!!

In an interview to a Belgian radio show today, Romelu Lukaku expressed his wish to play one level higher than West Brom. He said he didn't want to return to Chelsea per sé, but that he wanted to get back in touch with European football.
 
Chelsea will definitely keep him in the EPL. So there's 7 teams that are better than West Brom who'll play European football. Neither of the Manchesters need him. Arsenal and Tottenham are too close competitors to Chelsea, plus they're from London. That leaves Liverpool FC and Everton FC.
 
It's vague and it's speculation, but it's his wish and it's a loan that would make sense to both teams, but I suppose he'd get more chances to play at EFC than at LFC, because of Sturridge. All I'm saying is that it is a signal and with a bit of 1+1=2, we can take notice of this. Plus Fellaini and especially Mirallas are buddies of Lukaku
 
Oh he's Belgian? Darnit didn't know that... Well I suppose I'm gonna have to face some repercussions from certain Swedish individuals for this then....

I was afraid it might make us look small time today but it was in fact the complete opposite, I'm glad to admit I was wrong. Moyes couldn't have been more professional, the team reminded us all that there is a lot to look forward too with the quality we have in the squad, and what a brilliant atmosphere. Everything was absolute class - that's just how Everton do things. Proud to be an Evertonian!

With the new badge on the way, I started looking to see if there was leak of the new kit. All I could find was this (which I actually really like!) but it has the current badge on:
 
 
 
 

 
anyone got any better rumours?
 
*cough* Louis *cough*

Erm, Moyes wasn't exactly playing Heitinga so he may see a new manager coming in as a reason to stay...

Well, to weigh in with my own views, and my first proper post...I'm taking a deep breath here...
 
Firstly, whoever comes in has got a brilliant first 11 to play with. Behind that first 11 is a bit of a problem, we all know more depth is needed to the squad. The debate around the youngsters will rage on...but with our top drawer (albeit rented) training facilities and youth set up, I would like to see some of the young ones given a bit more opportunity. Whoever it is will need to do this.
 
Finacially, we are still going to be a club with a lower budget. I know peeps rave on about the new TV deal, but every club is going to get extra so I only expect player prices and wages to rise as a result of this money...so it doesnt change the financial playing field. Someone needs to be used to working on a tight budget.
 
Everyone wants modern, Euro style attacking football. Our first 11 can do this but the next man must get rid of this 'sit back after 70mins' mentality. Free flowing football has to be the mentality from the off.
 
For me, Martinez from day one. He is also only 39 and will know he will be given time. But I honestly believe that with his view on football tactics and our current crop of players, he would fit right in. He turned down Villa and that shite, but he was concerned about stability and how his role would be played out. Here, he has 100% control. A lot of people criticise BK, in some ways so do I, but the way he handled Moyes, relationship wise, must be an attraction for Martinez. Plus, Wigan are going down and I dont think they'll be back anytime soon...Europa + Championship? No chance!
 
I have always disliked Benitez, his arrogance drives me crazy. But, he is my second choice and from his quotes today, he is flirting himself a bit I think. His record speaks for itself. But I doubt he could handle the lack of money.
 
Phew!

For me I would take Benitez but after Laudrup and Martinez. The next manager will have to deal with high levels of expectation from day one. That is not something that Laudrup orMartinez have had to deal with yet. Not saying either of them couldn't deal with it but Benitez has taken it in his stride, and with great dignity, at Chelsea.
 
I would prefer Martinez or Laudrup but would be ok with Benitez. Now is not the time to promote from within. Ournewmanager has to reflect our status as a top 6 club with serious and credible ambitions to break into the top two or three.

I'd have him before the likes of Lennon and Mackay, that's for sure.

I guess Liverpool fans would hate it they still love the guy dont they

I know i'm repeating myself a lot here about Benitez but, blue glasses off, YES! Forget that he managed liverpool, forget that we all hate him for calling Everton a small club, forget his smug little face....Look at his credentials:
 
La Liga (twice), Uefa cup, Champions league, Uefa super cup, Fa Cup, supercoppa italiana, FIFA world club cup.
 
Everton are at a juncture where they are no longer looking to stay afloat, they are looking to move forward into the top 4/5 of the premier league and into Europe (hopefully with some rich dude coming in to give us the financial clout that's really needed). We need a manager with these sorts of credentials who knows how to win things. Out of the managers available, he is my choice - in spite of the Liverpool connections.

To be honest if I take the blue glasses off he wouldn't be a bad choice but I cant stand the bloke.

agreed...coleman has been the better full back in the last few months...and baines set piece wise has been very disappointing...fellaini has hardly set the world alight since the halfway season point either

Overall I voted Seamus... he was great going forward, and tracked back to defend... always offered something on our right flank.

Best thing Stubbs can do for Everton is model goalposts

I think you have to look past the results and league placings with some managers depending on their circumstances. Do I think Mancini or Di Matteo because they won the Premier League and Champions League respectively? No I dont, they are average managers in my opinion who have been fortunate to end up at a top club.
 
Martinez moulded Swansea into the team they are now and ironically he has actually for a solid starting 11 if he could actually get them all on the pitch at the same time.
 
I also find it slightly laughable that you dont rate Martinez yet you are promoting someone who has never managed a football club in his life. True blue maybe but I very much doubt that Stubbsy, who it would be fair to say isnt the sharpest tool in the box, would ever be a good enough manager to take on such a challenge.

Martinez also created miracles at Wigan by being the exact opposite of Moyes - maybe that is what Everton needs now to get rid of their lack in self belief , to rise to the occasion instead of just settling for the draw or defending a 1 goal lead -
just see how many beautiful goals Wigan scored this season compared to Everton but their defence let them down -
Martinez or Laudrop or DiMatteo will do thanks

I'd rather impale my anus on a raging Rhinoceros' horn whilst listening to an extended version of "You'll never walk alone".

Haven't posted on here in a good while but had to comment on Neil Lennon being odds on to get the job.
 
Down South you probably know all about him but as someone who's living in Scotland, reading Scottish papers, and watching Scottish football I have to say it'd be an absolutely dreadful appointment. He's signed some decent players for Celtic like Hooper, Wanyama, Matthews and Ledley but he's also wasted several million pounds on dross like Daryl Murphy, Bangura, Juarez and Ambrose amongst others. He's had no competition (Rangers) this season yet the SPL was the last league in the country to be wrapped up.
 
Putting actual managerial stuff aside, he's a deplorable human being who thinks the world is against him and not the type of character that is needed at EFC.