SimonButtle Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Wasn't blaming the kids Si, remember an example of the sort of thing you're talking about when a parent went absolutely ape-shit at a game where his lad was a sub but still unused with ten minutes or so to go. It was a close game (Josh was also an unused sub incidentally) and this lad was actually pretty useless; so what does the coach do? Difficult. Guy took his son and his toys home and we never saw him again after expletive ridden rant. I was myself probably guilty of being a "pushy parent" at times myself (which I obviously regret) but it was because Josh had much more talent than I ever did but not the confidence in himself to express it (that's my excuse anyway). We've talked about it many times and luckily he forgives me . Not a new thing though, my dad ran a team that I played in and he was far harder on me than anyone else. Also when I started getting successful at table tennis when I was a bit older I had to ban him from coming to tournaments, he couldn't watch without giving "advice" even though he couldn't play the game to save his life. Was a complex issue 40/50 years ago, even more so now. This is why i have chosen to go into Sports Science rather than Sports Coaching, i know people going down the coaching route and some of them are regretting it already simply because after a session or a game or whatever, they will get a parent coming up to them asking why their kid only had 10 mins and not 15 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Mike, you were lucky that your Dad was so supportive. I loved my Dad but he wasn't supportive. I remember getting my trial for Liverpool boys. My Dad was all excited and he said he would take me and my brother (he had an old Ford van) to the ground at Penny Lane where the trial was to be held. He took us down there and I kept looking for him during the game but couldn't see him. My brother said he had to go somewhere. To rub salt in, there was another game going on on the next pitch and my brother watched that. He said it was a better game! My Dad returned after the match was over. After I came out of National Service, I played senior amateur football, played for the County etc., but he never bothered coming to see me play. So, overly supportive or zilch, a choice of extremes but I would (reluctantly) go for overly supportive. I was 13 when I had my trial (68 years ago) all the other lads in the trial were 15/16 so they shoved me in a couple of years too soon. Funny the things that stick in your memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Only just spotted this. Compared to Rory and Jordan Speith I am happy to admit I was shite at golf! Don't play now though - retired hurt. I was once stretchered off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 I was once stretchered off But that wasn't when you were playing golf Rubes be honest, you were just lucky the woman involved didn't want to press charges . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Mike, you were lucky that your Dad was so supportive. I loved my Dad but he wasn't supportive. I remember getting my trial for Liverpool boys. My Dad was all excited and he said he would take me and my brother (he had an old Ford van) to the ground at Penny Lane where the trial was to be held. He took us down there and I kept looking for him during the game but couldn't see him. My brother said he had to go somewhere. To rub salt in, there was another game going on on the next pitch and my brother watched that. He said it was a better game! My Dad returned after the match was over. After I came out of National Service, I played senior amateur football, played for the County etc., but he never bothered coming to see me play. So, overly supportive or zilch, a choice of extremes but I would (reluctantly) go for overly supportive. I was 13 when I had my trial (68 years ago) all the other lads in the trial were 15/16 so they shoved me in a couple of years too soon. Funny the things that stick in your memory. Difference between supporting and pressuring though John, sad your dad couldn't support you for whatever reason. Best (funniest?) example for me was when I was playing the biggest table tennis final of my life to that point. My mum's brother happened to be visiting at the time so he came along to watch; I was probably sixteen and had woken with a dreadful migraine (which I suffered from badly) so was feeling like shit in the car on the way. My dad had a leg in plaster due to a break playing football so mum was driving. About two miles from home my dad and uncle were in a massive argument over how I should play the game, even though neither had a clue, to the extent that my dad demanded my mum stop the car so he could go home; which he did, on his crutches. I was actually quite pleased he wasn't going to be there. Anyway adrenaline kicked in and I won (largest trophy ever but not the hardest) and still my uncle told me off after the game for being too "nice", I'd been a real "John McEnroe" in earlier years before I realise how counter productive it was for me and I'd gone completely the other way; accepting bad luck and applauding when my opponent was too good for me. Transformed my game that realisation. Also often annoyed the shit out of the opponent . PS Got home with the cup, migraine kicked in again and I was sick as a dog until the next day. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Difference between supporting and pressuring though John, sad your dad couldn't support you for whatever reason. Best (funniest?) example for me was when I was playing the biggest table tennis final of my life to that point. My mum's brother happened to be visiting at the time so he came along to watch; I was probably sixteen and had woken with a dreadful migraine (which I suffered from badly) so was feeling like shit in the car on the way. My dad had a leg in plaster due to a break playing football so mum was driving. About two miles from home my dad and uncle were in a massive argument over how I should play the game, even though neither had a clue, to the extent that my dad demanded my mum stop the car so he could go home; which he did, on his crutches. I was actually quite pleased he wasn't going to be there. Anyway adrenaline kicked in and I won (largest trophy ever but not the hardest) and still my uncle told me off after the game for being too "nice", I'd been a real "John McEnroe" in earlier years before I realise how counter productive it was for me and I'd gone completely the other way; accepting bad luck and applauding when my opponent was too good for me. Transformed my game that realisation. Also often annoyed the shit out of the opponent . PS Got home with the cup, migraine kicked in again and I was sick as a dog until the next day. Mike, I had a real good laugh reading that. Sounds like a sketch out of the Royle Family. Can just see your Dad arguing with your uncle (when neither knew what they were on about) then stopping the car and stomping away on his crutches. I played a lot of table tennis in my teens but it sounds as if you could have given me 10 points start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Arsenal NEED to get buying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Wenger destroying the club from the inside as a way to get back at the fans? (this is a joke and I don't actually think this...or do I ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Arsenal NEED to get buying.... Most of those players are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Arsenal NEED to get buying.... Or, more importantly, selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Jesus. How sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Most of those players are shit. I'd take Ramsey in a heartbeat, even Carzola on a rolling contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'd take Ramsey in a heartbeat, even Carzola on a rolling contract. Yes? So out of them all you'd want 2. Hence me saying most of them are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Kyle Walker to City £55m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'd take Ramsey in a heartbeat, even Carzola on a rolling contract. ?? Sanchez and Ozil??? you'd pass on them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 ?? Sanchez and Ozil??? you'd pass on them?? No but they would pass on us. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Yes? So out of them all you'd want 2. Hence me saying most of them are shit. I was agreeing with you dude. Pointing out the only 2 (well, Ozil Sanchez too but, you know) that were even worthy of consideration Edited July 13, 2017 by Matt Romey 1878 and Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 ?? Sanchez and Ozil??? you'd pass on them?? No, but I was trying to be realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I was agreeing with you dude. Pointing out the only 2 (well, Ozil Sanchez too but, you know) that were even worthy of consideration Wenger has let them get into a right state. He should be fucked off for that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Wenger has let them get into a right state. He should be fucked off for that alone. this is why i think we can surpass them. their owner is only interested in the business aspect of Arsenal, generating revenue. By continuing with Wenger, we can overtake them. With the new stadium we can surpass them and take our rightful place on the throne...erm....CL places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Joe Hart going to West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Good signing for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Walker to City done, £45m rising to £50m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Walker to City done, £45m rising to £50m For a mediocre RB. And people think we're "ruining football". Jesus fucking Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 For a mediocre RB. And people think we're "ruining football". Jesus fucking Christ. His crossing is up there with Coleman's. Difference is, Coleman cost £60k. Crazy shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Dier could be on to united. What the fuck are spurs doing? They'll be back in 5th place every year at this rate. Can levy really not afford the new stadium? This worried me for our stadium although moshiri has said it will be financed separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Dier could be on to united. What the fuck are spurs doing? They'll be back in 5th place every year at this rate. Can levy really not afford the new stadium? This worried me for our stadium although moshiri has said it will be financed separately. Spurs came out this morning and said they have finances in place for the stadium and player sales is nothing to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Spurs came out this morning and said they have finances in place for the stadium and player sales is nothing to do with that. Thanks Aaron I didn't know that. Not sure why they are selling starters with champs league and an already thin squad Edited July 14, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thanks Aaron I didn't know that. Not sure why they are selling starters with champs league and an already thin squad Trippier is a better player imo. They'd have been mad to turn down £50m for an average player like Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Trippier is a better player imo. They'd have been mad to turn down £50m for an average player like Walker. Not going to disagree but behind tripper is no one, Jansen sucks, outside their starting 11 they have maybe 3-4 players that are solid (son, lamela, winks, etc). Injuries and they are done. Not sure why they have such a small squad. Granted I don't care as I'd love to pass them in the table! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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