Finn balor Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 A big game and i dont think its an easy one at all. They have nothing to lose and know they need three points just like us. Although alot of their buys have been shite, They have an amazing keeper and i have been really impressed with Remy. I have been impressed with the five at the back to be honest, obviously there has been difficult moments against difficult teams with such a new formation but it has looked not bad at all. Against QPR with Felli and Peanuts coming back i would be tempted to rest Ossie for Peanuts and Felli for Ross.Then maybe change it against Arse. With that team i'd go for 3-1 Kev,Vic x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 They will be up for it but they have been up for it for the past month or so and still remain in the relegation zone. I agree that it will be a hard game but if we have realistic ambitions about qualifying for the Champions/Europa League then we cannot crack against teams like QPR at home. Three points is a must - anything less and we can kiss goodbye to any chance European football next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Not easy....if I was a betting man I'd have a few quid on QPR to soften the blow if we were to lose, think 7/1 are good odds. It's the sort of game we've tripped over many times....nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I wonder how many people will call for Moyes head if we don't win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 This is one of those games where I could see us go up 1-0 early, screw up our other opportunities, and then get burned by Remy in the 85th minute to make it a 1-1 draw. It would be really nice to go up 3-0 in the first 55 minutes and then sub off some of the main guys so they can rest. But with the way things go for this team against weak competition, I'll just take the 3 points anyway it comes. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 It's late and I'm tired and I can't even remember if it's home or away for this one but after a run of home fixtures that would appear to be a trip to the capital. Been some good games over the years, and we don't have the best of records or past history in recent years over there and they've got their own objectives, but they're not at the bottom of the league for nothing. Will be tough, and got no idea what may be a final result. Draw seems the most likely outcome. Depends on who wants it more on the day. Queens Park Rangers 2 Everton 2 Everton 2 Queens Park Rangers 0 Fuck it all, appears we're at home after all for this. Said I was tired. Changed the above prediction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Interesting read from a QPR forum, this guy has pretty much summed it all up, apart from getting the Swansea score wrong, everything he says is the absolute truth and from a neutral point of view. We have to keep Moyes to realise anything near our ambitions. http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/fb_news.php?storyid=31819 Close but no silverware for Moyes’ Everton – opposition focusThu 11th Apr 2013 19:00 by Clive Whittingham With some of the league’s best players and one of its most attractive teams, David Moyes has been struggling to mask his disappointment that Everton again look set to miss out on major honours and Champions League places this year. Overview For Everton this season threatens to be a tough realisation. For years the problem for the Toffees has been a slow start. Often shorn of a star name or two late in the summer transfer window to keep the bills paid and the bank happy the team has frequently struggled in the early months before coming home with a wet sail. David Moyes has become a master at blooding young players and utilising the January transfer window and loan market to produce extraordinary runs of form in the second half of campaigns. That always leaves Merseysiders of a blue persuasion with a feeling of optimism come May – dreaming of picking up where they left off in August and finally rekindling those glory days of the 1980s. But then the vultures circle again, another player or two is sold, and the whole thing goes back to square one in time for the new season. This campaign threatened to be different. Everton’s big summer sale was Jack Rodwell and, as Manchester City have since discovered, the young England international is currently one of the most overrated players in the game, rarely threatening to fulfil whatever potential those in the know felt he’d shown during his early days at Goodison. The bills had been paid, and money was available for team strengthening, while Rodwell was scarcely missed at all from a midfield containing far more effective players like Leon Osman and Steven Pienaar. Hell, even Man Utd reject Darron Gibson has looked a far superior player to Rodwell this season at a tenth of the price. With Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini in the form of their respective careers, Victor Anichebe finally maturing into a reasonable Premier League striker, and a solid and experienced spine of the team including international Phil Jagielka and Tim Howard Everton started the campaign strongly. They won 3-1 at Swansea when I saw them in September and it’s no exaggeration at all to say that could have comfortably finished 8-1. Likewise a 2-2 home draw with Newcastle whose players have suffered Baines and Pienaar-themed night terrors ever since. Faced with a favourable run to the FA Cup semi-final that only required home wins against Oldham and Wigan it seemed the time had come for Moyes to finally add silverware to the plaudits for the work he has done during a ten year spell in this part of the world. However, Everton have stumbled of late. Wigan thrashed them in the cup and the Champions League places look beyond them. Once again they’ve performed well for half a season – this time it was the first bit rather than the business end. The whole thing has left Moyes looking rather forlorn, and undecided over his contract that expires this summer and has yet to be extended. What more can the man do? This is the best Everton team of his time at the club and the likes of Baines and Fellaini are certain to attract suitors this summer. It will surely take several years of book balancing and transfer market juggling to get them back to the level they’re at now and even if he does succeed in it, Everton cannot afford to support the squad depth required to sustain a challenge throughout a season. On the one occasion they have made the Champions League they were unfortunate enough to pull Villarreal in the qualifying round and were eliminated with the help of some dubious refereeing. Moyes is regularly linked with the big jobs – even tipped by some as a replacement for Alex Ferguson at Manchester United – and this season threatens to be the moment he realises he needs to move to achieve what he’s capable of. Everton must move heaven and earth to keep him. While their lack of a billionaire owner, persistence with one of the country’s most famous and atmospheric homes and sell-to-buy transfer policy makes them a likeable underdog for the neutral, it also means that without a truly exceptional manager like Moyes they face a grim future. At best they’d join that clutch of clubs that aspires to nothing more than seventeenth or higher in the Premier League each season, and at worst they’d become the latest big name to drop down a division and fall on financially hard times – a Leeds United of our time. Only a hardened Liverpool fan would deny that Moyes and his chairman Bill Kenwright deserve a trophy for keeping Everton competitive at the very highest level of the game using a financial model that’s being increasingly pushed down the divisions by the shakes and oligarchs. Sadly I struggle to shake the feeling that this season was their best chance to get that, and they’ll have to wait a very long time indeed for another clear shot. A hell of a lot longer if Moyes decides his future lies elsewhere. Scout Report Everton’s recent home game with Stoke provided an interesting opportunity to have a look at two teams QPR will play in the next few games, but how much use it was as a scouting mission is up for debate. First and foremost, Stoke are like no other side in the Premier League and teams often put special measures in place to deal with the unique challenge they pose. Secondly, Everton were missing both Steven Pienaar and Marouane Fellaini who, whenever I’ve watched them in other games this season, have been absolutely integral to the structure of David Moyes’ team. The standard Everton set up this season has been lopsided to the left. Pienaar and Baines attack to terrific effect down the left side, with Kevin Mirallas ostensibly named as a right winger but regularly filing inside from that flank to become a third striker or late arrival at the back post onto the regular service from the other flank. Fellaini has played in an advanced midfield role or second striker alongside Jelavic. Against Stoke, Moyes made up for the lack of Pienaar by switching to a back three. This may well have been with an eye on Stoke’s recent 4-3-3 set up as it allowed a physical trio of Sylvain Distin, Phil Jagielka and Johnny Heitinga to match up man for man against Peter Crouch, Jon Walters and Cameron Jerome. But equally, it also allowed Baines to play in a more advanced role down the left, so he could still provide the same attacking threat he usually does even without the support of Pienaar. It worked a treat – Baines was exceptional. Without Fellaini, Moyes paired Jelavic with Victor Anichebe and added Mirallas as support in a central role behind the pair of them. That too worked very well, and the Belgian scored a superb only goal of the game. Seamus Coleman had the legs and energy to bomb up and down the right side from wing back to cover for the lack of help ahead of him – although given how narrow and one dimensional Stoke were the threat to Everton in wide areas was almost non-existent. Darron Gibson and Leon Osman held the whole thing together centrally, with Osman filing in behind Baines as defensive cover whenever he stormed forward on the attack. Whether we’ll see something similar this weekend is open to debate, but it was clear even before Pienaar and Fellaini dropped out that Everton’s system that had worked so wonderfully in the first half of the season was starting to look a little tired and jaded. In a recent away game at Southampton the home team was able to nullify the Pienaar and Baines combination by using a 4-2-3-1 formation that not only had a right back and right sided attacker to track the pair, but also allowed Morgan Schneiderlin or Jack Cork to slide across from the deep-lying midfield positions and add a third body that closed down any space Everton might have liked to work in. Throw in the poor form of Jelavic, and the distance between him and Fellaini as the fuzzy-haired giant dropped deep looking for possession, and Everton simply didn’t function as an attacking unit for the majority of the game. Having watched Jelavic and Fellaini in sumptuous form as a partnership on the opening Monday night of the season against Man Utd it was hard to believe they were the same two players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 http://www.london24.com/sport/qpr/qpr_boss_fears_zamora_suspension_and_assesses_slim_survival_hopes_ahead_of_everton_trip_1_2016371 That's good news I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Summary's should be written after 38 games. Anything else is speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Got my positive hat on today. 2-0 win. Coleman + Vic to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Got my positive hat on today. 2-0 win. Coleman + Vic to score. Lol well your in the wrong forum then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Lol well your in the wrong forum then Don't worry that positivity has long since passed after reading the 'If Moyes Goes' thread. This Moyes guy is useless! we don't stand a chance against a colossus like Redknapp. I'm just glad we aren't against Wigan because Martinez always out masters us...once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I have a forum full of positivity - but no fucker goes there ha ha. If we score early we will kill any hope they have and go on to win 5-0. Just don't concede needlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 An early goal would be a killer blow against a team like QPR so it's vital that we attack from the start. If we let them get a foot-hold in the game then it's going to be really difficult and I wouldn't fancy our chances of getting a considerable result. I think we'll do it though. I'll take a punt on 3-0, I'd be dissapointed if they scored considering that we kept a clean sheet against Manchester City not many moons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Very quiet on here today.. Thought I might try and put a team forward. Howard Coleman. Jags. Distin. Baines Osman/Gibson Mirallas. Pienaar Felli Anichebe Can't see Jelavic or Gibson starting this, though worryingly on sky sports preview it says Nev is in line for a start. Surely not at DM?! Hmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 QPR, fighting for their premiership lives, that alone should be reason for caution. Can't see Rangers being happy with a point, that will hopefully be their downfall. Anichebe to build on his growing reputation with a goal or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Can we relegate QPR today if we win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 QPR were pretty threatening against Fulham in the 2nd half and despite being 3-0 down at half time they probably should have won. Then against Wigan with 10men they were unlucky not to come away with 3 points. I doubt we will be able to roll them over as the league table suggests we should especially considering our performances against these type of teams. However at home with two big players back and the chase for 4th still just about on, we really should be picking looking to pick up the 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Don't worry that positivity has long since passed after reading the 'If Moyes Goes' thread. This Moyes guy is useless! we don't stand a chance against a colossus like Redknapp. I'm just glad we aren't against Wigan because Martinez always out masters us...once. Ha ha that's more like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Howard, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Coleman, Pienaar, Osman, Gibson, Mirallas, Fellaini, Anichebe. Mucha, Heitinga, Jelavic, Oviedo, Naismith, Hitzlsperger, Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Howard, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Coleman, Pienaar, Osman, Gibson, Mirallas, Fellaini, Anichebe. Mucha, Heitinga, Jelavic, Oviedo, Naismith, Hitzlsperger, Barkley. With Fella and Anichebe up top I'd be shitting myself as a centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Free Coke Zero outside Goodison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Glad to see Vic get the nod again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Free Coke Zero outside Goodison! Keeping us sweet because they know these are the games we always lose! Zoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Can't really see anything other than three points today. Ok they've got a fight on their hands to retain status but with the players at our disposal, stronger on just about every level and with home advantage, you'd be crazy to bet against a home success. It's games like these that worry maybe, as we have been known to struggle against the smaller fish particularly at home. Can only hope today does not see a repeat of that. Quietly confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Strange that Neville isn't in the squad...is he injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 With our position on the log we should be nothing but very confident against the wooden spooners in the leaugue - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Really have a bad feeling about today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Why put someone on the bench who is leaving? We should be playing players who need experiance for the future (i.e. - Oviedo, Barkley) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 OptaJoe @OptaJoe4s 24 - QPR have scored 24 times in 11 PL games against Everton; against no other side have they scored more than 17 in the division. Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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