c1982 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 @BettingOfficial: Gareth Barry has been cut from 40/1 to 1/3 to sign for Everton after rumours a loan deal has been agreed --> http://t.co/VMV2KPLhAl I was going to suggest that he could be a really important signing (stop gap) with the new system employing 2 deeper midfielders - an area where we are very short in numbers. A big yes from me, many will disagree but exactly what we need in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Good fucking lord. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 never been a fan...but i was never a fan of gibson to be fair marcus jones and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 For loan. As emergency cover. I'll have to agree with C, I'd take him. Would be pissed if it was a perm move but if it's to cover our poor depth at CM, it's a sensible move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 We need an athletic and mobile midfielder and people would be happy signing Barry who would always win at musical statues because he doesn't fucking move? Shaking my head here. Lets make the squad even slower and older. Happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Personally I've never seen the value of Garett Barry. I certainly don't understand why he ever played for England. Still, I would be glad to be proved wrong should he be loaned to Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Thing is, who would people prefer in the deep cm role - Osman, Heitinga or Barry? I want us to get James McCarthy but he's going to cost serious £££ which we may not have without selling. If we could turn back time I'd have loved Ashley Westwood, think he's been excellent in the deeper role for Villa. The way I see it is if we have 2 from Felli, Gibson and Barry - 3 experienced premiership Cm's then it give Barkely more game time and more freedom playing in front of them when he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Never been a fan and He has the pace of a geriatric on valium.....vastly overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 We need midfield depth. I don't know what you guys were expecting, frankly. Bringing in a hardworking veteran who knows the English game sounds quite alright to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 never been a fan...but i was never a fan of gibson to be fair This is exactly how I felt. I think Barry would be a good addition. He's solid though not pace-y. Good deep lying CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 We need midfield depth. I don't know what you guys were expecting, frankly. Someone who has the attributes we're looking for rather than the complete opposite? I'm all for boosting the numbers but when that player isn't who you need then what's the point in getting them in just for the sake of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I think he could do a job for us but I wouldn't get over excited about it, pretty much the way I feel about all our summer signings so far really, Deulofeu being the exception Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Someone who has the attributes we're looking for rather than the complete opposite? I'm all for boosting the numbers but when that player isn't who you need then what's the point in getting them in just for the sake of it? I'm hardly in love with Barry but I don't really see how he is the "opposite" of what we need. Fellaini and Gibson are sure to miss games due to suspension/injury/international duty. When that does happen we're going to need a physical, defensive midfielder. I don't like shoehorning Heitinga into that role. Barry is a competent replacement. Sibdane and Steve_E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 We need midfield depth. I don't know what you guys were expecting, frankly. He has not signed so I've not expected anything its a rumour! How much of Barry have you actually seen? Have you only watched Him playing for City with some of Europe's best around him and for the most part carrying Him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 He has not signed so I've not expected anything its a rumour! How much of Barry have you actually seen? Have you only watched Him playing for City with some of Europe's best around him and for the most part carrying Him? Yes. I'm not going to claim to be the expert on Gareth Barry so I welcome all opinions. But I don't see what people were expecting given the reality of our financial situation. We have to get creative. Barry is not going to set the world on fire but he serves as a competent rotation option, I would think. Unless Fellaini is leaving I'm not seeing the massive need for a big-time addition centrally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm hardly in love with Barry but I don't really see how he is the "opposite" of what we need. Fellaini and Gibson are sure to miss games due to suspension/injury/international duty. When that does happen we're going to need a physical, defensive midfielder. I don't like shoehorning Heitinga into that role. Barry is a competent replacement. Like I said before; we need a mobile and athletic midfielder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Like I said before; we need a mobile and athletic midfielder... Sure. And how many of those are out there that are capable of playing the defensive side of the game AND would be cheap? If we had a bunch of money to throw around then sure. But we don't. Unless I see names of these athletic, mobile, responsible midfielders whom teams are trying to cut ties with cheap I'm not going to criticize the (potential) Barry addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Sure. And how many of those are out there that are capable of playing the defensive side of the game AND would be cheap? If we had a bunch of money to throw around then sure. But we don't. Unless I see names of these athletic, mobile, responsible midfielders whom teams are trying to cut ties with cheap I'm not going to criticize the (potential) Barry addition. So you wait until a player becomes available that fits the parameters you need. You don't just buy (or loan in this case) for the sake of bringing numbers in. Like you said, we don't have the money to splash, so why spend a penny of it on someone that isn't what we need? No, I'd rather wait and get no one. Martinez said he wouldn't sign players for the sake of it and I'm hoping he sticks to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) I think he's being underrated here. If we were buying him, I'd be upset, but a loan isn't a bad idea. How much are his wages at Citeh and how much are we going to be paying? Edited August 16, 2013 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 @BettingOfficial: Gareth Barry has been cut from 40/1 to 1/3 to sign for Everton after rumours a loan deal has been agreed --> http://t.co/VMV2KPLhAl I was going to suggest that he could be a really important signing (stop gap) with the new system employing 2 deeper midfielders - an area where we are very short in numbers. A big yes from me, many will disagree but exactly what we need in my opinion. You should be banned from this forum and implicated in the Jimmy Saville scandal for posting this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 So you wait until a player becomes available that fits the parameters you need. You don't just buy (or loan in this case) for the sake of bringing numbers in. Like you said, we don't have the money to splash, so why spend a penny of it on someone that isn't what we need? No, I'd rather wait and get no one. Martinez said he wouldn't sign players for the sake of it and I'm hoping he sticks to that. I'm still not understanding how he isn't "what we need." Maybe he's not the ideal player, but - again - what happens when Fellaini and/or Gibson is unavailable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 No way is this going to happen, why pick a player who can not keep up with play? Thought we were trying to inject more pace into the team in all areas rather than trying to compress? :dont know: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 You should be banned from this forum and implicated in the Jimmy Saville scandal for posting this! You need to get a new joke book, Saville's so 2012! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Like I said before; we need a mobile and athletic midfielder... I wonder if Las Diarra would be available to buy/loan with Anzi up shit creak? He'd fit said bill. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I wonder if Las Diarra would be available to buy/loan with Anzi up shit creak? He'd fit said bill. I'm going to go ahead and assume his wages are off Everton's "Richter Scale." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm going to go ahead and assume his wages are off Everton's "Richter Scale." Probably! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'd have him. I think the holding midfield role is the role we need to strengthen most. We only have Gibson for that position at the moment. Barry might even be able to displace him. It's someone who was a regular starter for City against someone who could not get a game for United. I don't care about his age either as it's a loan move. I think it's likely we have no more money left to make any permanent signings and are now looking in the loan market, I think Barry's about as good as you're gonna get in that area (if he's even available that is). As it's a loan, his age doesn't matter either. It's only for a season. Assuming we're playing a double pivot in midfield, we'd have Barry and Gibson for the holding role. Fellaini (the mobile and athletic midfielder) or Osman (a more clever player who will play between the lines and link up play on a good day) for the role next to them. Barkley or Naismith or Pienaar for the role in the hole. thoward18 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 There doesn't seem to be any actual news sources reporting this either? It's just based on shortened odds at bookmakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 There doesn't seem to be any actual news sources reporting this either? It's just based on shortened odds at bookmakers? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2395907/Everton-enquiry-bring-Gareth-Barry-loan-Manchester-City.html http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/16/everton-roberto-martinez-ross-barkley Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 That article says Everton are wary of bids for Heitinga .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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