Louis Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 First, it was Lukaku and now Naismith. I don't understand why he doesn't replace the players at the first sign of concussion, instead he leaves them on to play. I find it all the more surprising because he apparently has a degree in physiotherapy. In November he said: "My view is that I don't think it should be a manager's decision whether you take a player off or not. If there is a strong view from the medical side that when a player gets concussed he should come off, I think we should look into it and make it a rule." http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-calls-2685937 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 None story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 ....then maybe he needs better medical staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 If the guys specifically trained and paid to evaluate medical issues tells him that a player is good to go, then why WOULDN'T he leave that guy in. This is an issue with medics. Not coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Naismith should not have continued in my opinion. Anyone suffering from head trauma must be taken off, it was ridiculous to keep him on! Miguel- it's a forum you belter, it's made for people to discuss topics, this is one of them. Edited February 16, 2014 by tenaciousj Matt and Louis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 First, it was Lukaku and now Naismith. I don't understand why he doesn't replace the players at the first sign of concussion, instead he leaves them on to play. I find it all the more surprising because he apparently has a degree in physiotherapy. In November he said: "My view is that I don't think it should be a manager's decision whether you take a player off or not. If there is a strong view from the medical side that when a player gets concussed he should come off, I think we should look into it and make it a rule." http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-boss-roberto-martinez-calls-2685937 . Lukaku never got concussed, he was the player who gave Loris concussion. Naismiths didn't look like concussion to me, a bit of a knock and he was groggy. He subbed him as soon as he indicated he hadn't recovered. MC11, nutmegwolf203 and Matt 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MC11 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 . Lukaku never got concussed, he was the player who gave Loris concussion. Naismiths didn't look like concussion to me, a bit of a knock and he was groggy. He subbed him as soon as he indicated he hadn't recovered. Meant to give you a like there! Not a neg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 . Lukaku never got concussed, he was the player who gave Loris concussion. Naismiths didn't look like concussion to me, a bit of a knock and he was groggy. He subbed him as soon as he indicated he hadn't recovered. Lukaku: "I didn’t remember what happened for a couple of seconds, and then I woke up, and they said I scored." http://m.nbcsports.com/content/romelu-lukaku-situation-shows-need-premier-league-concussion-policy Martinez:"Naismith is okay. We will check him over the next 24 hours as he had a bit of delayed concussion with the knock," said the Spaniard. "He was okay and then all of a sudden he became dizzy and he couldn't remember what was happening and we couldn't take any risks. "He said he didn't remember he scored so I told him he scored from 40 yards!" http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-3-1-swansea-roberto-martinez-3152579 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 come on haf, get with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Ah that header, yes I remember now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant1979 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Not every blow to the head results in concussion. I can only assume in both cases Martinez didn't receive an opinion of concussion from his medical staff? He certainly wouldn't overrule a medical opinion and keep a player on against their advice. He's a qualified physio but he's not a doctor Edited February 17, 2014 by Ant1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 There seems to be more players this season who are getting concussion than there has ever been before.....Or is that just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 There seems to be more players this season who are getting concussion than there has ever been before.....Or is that just me I don't know....how many times have you had it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28656263 The Premier League is to introduce new rules on how to deal with head injuries from the start of the 2014-15 season. A player suffering a head injury must now leave the pitch and the club doctor must decide if a player is capable of continuing, not the team management. Home teams also have to have a third "tunnel" doctor on match-days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28656263 It's an improvement, but even club doctors may have the incentive of allowing the player to return on the pitch if say it's an important game or face dismissal. I much prefer the idea of having a 3rd part doctor sanctioned by the league. I know how dangerous concussions can be having seen a couple of teammates completely laid out playing American football in high school. They are not to be messed with and and are to be taken very seriously. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 It's interesting to see how various leagues around the world are creating rules for player safety regarding head injuries...this has become a major issue in the states with the NFL. The NFL also has the test administered by the team's own trainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 In the Australian NRL comp, they have to complete a cognitive test at the start of the season. If they suffer a head injury, they have to go and resist the test on the side line. Get less than your preseason score, and you can't go back into the game. They are then tested again, and are not allowed back on duty until they meet that initial score. Works pretty well, but it can open to manipulation, eg. Scoring deliberately poorly in your preseason test. There is a similar protocol for RL in the UK, but I don't think it includes the sideline screening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 On the back of this, there have been a few guys who have had to retire off the back of repeated concussions and potential permanent damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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