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I haven't been able to catch many games in the last year or so for one reason or another, but what's happened to tim cahill? He has gone from banging in the goals to hardly being a threat at all. Any of you who go regularly to see everton, has there been a change in tactics? Is he affected still by his injuries or has he simply faded into the background and reached his premier league limit?

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He has been deployed in a different role at the moment. He's the work horse in the team at the moment. He's all over the place. While he may no longer be grabbing headlines he is still a important cog in the team. He harries other players and chases balls down. He is doing dirty work so that players like Pienaar can shine. That's my view on Timmy at the moment.

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He has been deployed in a different role at the moment. He's the work horse in the team at the moment. He's all over the place. While he may no longer be grabbing headlines he is still a important cog in the team. He harries other players and chases balls down. He is doing dirty work so that players like Pienaar can shine. That's my view on Timmy at the moment.

 

 

I would go along with that

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Cheers for that. I was under the impression fellaini was brought in for the defensive midfield role but having seen him last season it appears not. Shame really as cahill in his usual position would get us around 10 or more goals per season. Surprised moyes wanted to mess with that.

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Hmm Saha scoring and Timmy midfield or Timmy scoring and saha on the bench.

 

I think Saha will get more goals than Timmy. Besides if worst comes to worst he can always play him up front as and when required.

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Hmm Saha scoring and Timmy midfield or Timmy scoring and saha on the bench.

 

I think Saha will get more goals than Timmy. Besides if worst comes to worst he can always play him up front as and when required.

 

 

 

Did I miss something ??

 

Why would Cahill playing in a more attacking role/ scoring mean Saha had to be benched??

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If Timmy goes into attack then someone will have to replace him in midfield. So someone else will need to be dropped.

 

But yes, fair point, it need not be Saha.

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I've always thought Cahill was a one trick pony! bloody good trick mind!

 

Looks like Moyes is trying to change him a bit.Behind the right forward and with the right service, that was Cahill at his best.Him being able to ply two formations gives us options, and if Billy can pick out his head in amongst the big boys the goals should continue.

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Say what you will, Cahill works his arse off when he plays in the shirt.

 

Moyes has given him the workhorse/engine room role that Carsley and Gravesen used to do.

 

And if there's set pieces, Timmy will still be able to pull of his 'one trick' 9 times out of 10. :D

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Say what you will, Cahill works his arse off when he plays in the shirt.

 

And if there's set pieces, Timmy will still be able to pull of his 'one trick' 9 times out of 10. :D

 

So Cahill is going to do his 'one trick' 9 times out of 10!.....so if we can create Tim say about 6 chances each game, I'd say he should be good for about 4 goals per game!

 

Watch out Dixie Dean! that record of your is looking a tad under threat :unsure:

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Hey everyone our squad looks very strong. I just want to focus on Cahill for a minute.

 

For me Cahill has been outstanding once again for us this season. Hes playing a bit more defensive and hes doing very well. Winning a lot of ball and not giving up any possession. Hes a quality footballer now and his passing game has really developed. His radar has been a bit off in front of goal but overall he has done very well and is very solid.

 

I think hes still in our top 3 players.

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I think hes still in our top 3 players.

Think he's been average....12th currently in TT accumulated MOTM votes. Says it all....but when he pops up like he did last night you've got to forgive him :) .

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I do agree with you ET but I have to say I think that he's still better in attack. Whilst he can do the job deeper in midfield, I'd still like to see him pushed forward a bit more in games. He's struggled a bit there I know this season but still he'll get better as the season goes on. Perhaps once Arteta comes back and hopefully he gets pushed forward a bit more, I'm hoping we will see more goals from him.

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He has done a fair job in a position that doesn't best suit his game, most will acknowledge that he is altogether more effective in a 4-5-1 when he doesn't have to defend quite as much.

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Didn't see the game, but have to agree with Mike and Romeo that Cahill has been distinctly average this season. His goals mask the fact of how out-of-sorts he has been, which may have to do with he is required to play the ball in the middle, which he isn't the best at. But I'll always have him in the team for his goal threat.

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again, i reckon he's average in a defensive position. he seems shackled when playing there, not happy, he needs to be let loose further up the field. when we do have our numbers back in midfield, it has to be Felli or Cahill in that attacking position, theyre just too similar. I would choose Cahill over Felli too, Screech needs to want his place more, he's loping about too much.

 

I may get a slating for this, but when we have the numbers back, why not rotate? Or at least play them in different styles of game. Skippy is better in dog-fight matches, getting stuck in whereas Felli likes space and time. all i know is that Skippy needs to be further upfield, then we will see the best of him again....

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again, i reckon he's average in a defensive position. he seems shackled when playing there, not happy, he needs to be let loose further up the field. when we do have our numbers back in midfield, it has to be Felli or Cahill in that attacking position, theyre just too similar. I would choose Cahill over Felli too, Screech needs to want his place more, he's loping about too much.

 

I may get a slating for this, but when we have the numbers back, why not rotate? Or at least play them in different styles of game. Skippy is better in dog-fight matches, getting stuck in whereas Felli likes space and time. all i know is that Skippy needs to be further upfield, then we will see the best of him again....

 

Yep...remember when he was our emergency striker, he seemed a totally different player than he has so far this season.

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i think tim has done a decent job back at centre mid altough he is much better playing behind the striker. i think the fact he is that good in that role people expect him to be that good centre mid but he cannot be due to his defensive reqiurements. hopefully felli can finally get to grips with playin deeper and so tim does play behind the strikers.

 

is it just me or does cahill seem to play better when arteta is in the team, they seem to have a good understanding with each other

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is it just me or does cahill seem to play better when arteta is in the team, they seem to have a good understanding with each other

 

Agreed. I think that with more starts perhaps Bily and Tim could also develop a strong understanding. And even though his overall performance last night left something to be desired, I think the goal demonstrates that he is most effective when further upfield as a scoring threat.

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i think he played okay, not as good as he was against AEK.

once mikel is back the whole team spirit will just rise even more with someone who can control the pace of the game

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Always a danger in the penalty area, sadly, for me is the fact that he's not really showing us his best this season.Mind you, it's Moyes that's asking him to play a different role, well different from the one he excells at.Maybe he will grow into his new position!

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Maybe hes not been as good as previous seasons so far but it is early in the season. I for one realize that no player is consistently good week in - week out. If he stays fit I think he will once again be an important part of the team.

 

 

Cahill said: "You cannot buy what we've got here. We keep doing it year after year.

 

"We've had thin squads but we work together and come through adversity. We play really hard for this club and it is brilliant to be part of it.

 

"When injuries come up we just deal with it. Results like this are the pinnacle of what we do.

 

"This is the best squad I've ever played in and the most competitive as everyone is battling for places.

 

"So while we had a thin squad against Bate we still put out a decent team and one that was capable of getting a good result."

 

 

I rate him and if he keeps coming out with stuff like that^^^^ then he'll keep going up in my estimation (and NO, I'm not Australian).

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Question is, is Cahill at his best, our best player? Seem to get a bit confused here. Because when hes in form he gets talked down. And when hes doign okay its like he stinks?

 

Either way we need him further up the field. And possibly as a striker. Hes quality. Just like Yakubu.

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...when hes in form he gets talked down. And when hes doign okay its like he stinks?

Your Cahill persecution paranoia coming out again.

 

Are you his mother? Seems to me that's the only excuse for someone to be so irrational about him :) .

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his passing is poor his tackling is poor and his positional sense is poor if his goal tally goes down then he has nothing except spirit which is his outstanding ability

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i think thats a bit harsh on him that milky his positional sense in the area is second to none and he isnt a defensive player but i think hes doin a fair decent job in a new role...

Not just a bit harsh. Its a loony statement. Seems to be divided with England vs Australia here. If your English your a great player. If your Australian your not? Its what i have seen with Jagielka and Baines, who play poorly and then get great wraps on here.

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its only this season that cahills been slated a bit. 2 years ago he was gettin hailed as are best player. needs to be used further up to get praise as a cm he's no where near the player he can be.

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Evertontoffees, your getting a bit carried away with this Cahill thing!

 

England v Australia! English posters on here have questioned Baines this year, but to be fair, after a dodgy start and a couple of poor pass backs Jags doesn't get much stick, but that's credit to him.

I'm English, though a few ancestors made the trip to Auss way back :unsure: (we try not to mention them)....and I for one am very happy when a fully fit Cahill is in the team.You always have a chance of something with Tim, and the better Everton play, the better he plays.Behind the right striker and with good service he is probably the best in that position in the prem, and he has won us many games.

But he is also capabale of having an off day or two, as is Baines, Osman(English), Hibbert (English) and every other bloody Englishman in the team.

If every Everton player were fit, four names stand out to me....Arteta, Jagielka, Pienaar....and CAHILL.

All Everton players to some extent get stick, even the crappy corner taker Arteta!

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is it just me or does cahill seem to play better when arteta is in the team, they seem to have a good understanding with each other

 

90% of ALL cahills goals have come while Artetas been on the pitch. Tell you something.

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