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Just watching the start of the Wales/Springboks game and it boils my blood every time that all England international teams (whatever the sport) have to suffer the dirge of "God Save the Queen" while Wales/Scotland/NI have their own national tunes/songs. Why?

(Commonwealth Games is an exception)

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40 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Just watching the start of the Wales/Springboks game and it boils my blood every time that all England international teams (whatever the sport) have to suffer the dirge of "God Save the Queen" while Wales/Scotland/NI have their own national tunes/songs. Why?

(Commonwealth Games is an exception)

Don't know but the sooner they get their own independence the better especially Scotland and Northern Ireland, for such a small population they have far too much say in parliament.

Sorry Mike went on a different tangent then I think it's to assert their independence from us.

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Sorry Mike went on a different tangent then I think it's to assert their independence from us.

I applaud them for that, so why can't we assert our independence from them? GB & NI medals at the Olympics or whenever we're competing as such GSTQ fair enough, even though I hate the deference to God and the monarch which I don't think any other country in the World resorts to so I wish it were changed. Everyone else celebrates their country rather than their head of state I think, and even countries where religion is a big deal (and it's a minority interest here unlike the US for example) don't sing to their "God".

Annoys me intensely and I refuse to join in if I happen to be at an event where it's sung.

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3 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I applaud them for that, so why can't we assert our independence from them? GB & NI medals at the Olympics or whenever we're competing as such GSTQ fair enough, even though I hate the deference to God and the monarch which I don't think any other country in the World resorts to so I wish it were changed. Everyone else celebrates their country rather than their head of state I think, and even countries where religion is a big deal (and it's a minority interest here unlike the US for example) don't sing to their "God".

Annoys me intensely and I refuse to join in if I happen to be at an event where it's sung.

You know that saying where British as if to excuse why we don't do things we maybe should, or we let people take the piss because we are British and we can rise above criticism or unfair play, it should really be because we are English even in sport we try and give the other home countries some form of big brother support when all they want is to see us fail, now politics is going the same way, now for me the national anthem is English and if we all part we would keep the national anthem, I would hate that to be played at a Scotland match of any description.

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23 minutes ago, Palfy said:

You know that saying where British as if to excuse why we don't do things we maybe should, or we let people take the piss because we are British and we can rise above criticism or unfair play, it should really be because we are English even in sport we try and give the other home countries some form of big brother support when all they want is to see us fail, now politics is going the same way, now for me the national anthem is English and if we all part we would keep the national anthem, I would hate that to be played at a Scotland match of any description.

My problem is that the the anthem has no mention/relevance to England or the wider UK, it's purely knee scraping to the monarch and asking god to look after her. Compare to "Advance Australia Fair" or " La Marseillaise" or "The Star-Spangled Banner" or even the Greek "Hymn to Liberty" (I include that because I've sat in the spot where Dionysios Solomos got his inspiration to write it). The national anthem should be about the nation, not some inbred head of state who happened to be born into a dysfunctional family. 

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9 minutes ago, MikeO said:

My problem is that the the anthem has no mention/relevance to England or the wider UK, it's purely knee scraping to the monarch and asking god to look after her. Compare to "Advance Australia Fair" or " La Marseillaise" or "The Star-Spangled Banner" or even the Greek "Hymn to Liberty" (I include that because I've sat in the spot where Dionysios Solomos got his inspiration to write it). The national anthem should be about the nation, not some inbred head of state who happened to be born into a dysfunctional family. 

I agree Mike, it's never been an anthem that I've taken on board as a representation of my national pride or identity just a nod to the Royals who I don't care much for 

There Will Always Be An England by Vera Lynn would be far more befitting tbh 

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I actually like the national anthem. I dont really give a shit what the words say but I think its a quick and quite passionate anthem that as a player would get me pumped up for the game. 

Some of these fancy dan anthems around the world are far to upbeat and go on for days! 

I do wish they would stop getting opera singers to do it though. Give the mic to a group of blokes at a pub and it would be far better!

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32 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

I don’t know why they don’t ban them.  Why would you pay money to go watch a match obstructed by flags?  You can’t bring that stuff into stadiums in America.  Small signs but they aren’t obstructing views.

They're not going to wave them for the whole game are they? Probably just when the teams run onto the pitch at the start of each half!

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On 01/11/2018 at 17:12, hafnia said:

I'm still not attached to a team in the NFL yet....

First US state I went to was Baltimore..... landed there .. that was it.  Stayed in LA and San Diego and Vega (they don't have a team).

I'm drawn to Kansas City.... dunno why. But their Quarter Back is potfntially gonna be the  greatest of all time. Patrick Mahomes. Kid has got serious talent.  

First, to get pedantry out of the way, Baltimore is a city in the state of Maryland. The Oakland Raiders are moving to Vegas in the off-season, so they will have a team soon.

On 02/11/2018 at 09:45, sibdane said:

Bit early for that! But yes, he has some serious talent. He really came out of nowhere.

Lastly, I wouldn’t say Mahomes came out of nowhere. They managed him well, but he was taken with the 10th pick in the 2017 draft as the 2nd quarterback (only one additional quarterback was taken until late into the third round - the other two being Mitchell Trubisky and Deshaun Watson). In college, he set single game NCAA records for most offensive yards in a game and most passing yards in a game, and led the country in total offensive yards, passing yards and touchdowns in his final season.

The only reason he didn’t get rookie hype was that the Chiefs smartly waited for him to learn the offense in his rookie season as they had a very capable veteran QB in Alex Smith for him to learn from. As soon as the season was over, they let Smith leave for the Redskins because Mahomes was always their plan for the future.

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my cleveland browns are a great story.  didn't win a game last year, got the QB of our future in Mayfield and now we are still alive for the playoffs.  Could have a winning record!!  We got the right GM finally in John Dorsey (guy who turned around Green Bay and won a super bowl, and is the reason Kansas City is so good now including Mahomes).  

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22 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

First, to get pedantry out of the way, Baltimore is a city in the state of Maryland. The Oakland Raiders are moving to Vegas in the off-season, so they will have a team soon.

Lastly, I wouldn’t say Mahomes came out of nowhere. They managed him well, but he was taken with the 10th pick in the 2017 draft as the 2nd quarterback (only one additional quarterback was taken until late into the third round - the other two being Mitchell Trubisky and Deshaun Watson). In college, he set single game NCAA records for most offensive yards in a game and most passing yards in a game, and led the country in total offensive yards, passing yards and touchdowns in his final season.

The only reason he didn’t get rookie hype was that the Chiefs smartly waited for him to learn the offense in his rookie season as they had a very capable veteran QB in Alex Smith for him to learn from. As soon as the season was over, they let Smith leave for the Redskins because Mahomes was always their plan for the future.

I meant it more in the sense that he has exploded this season. He's having a season like a Brady or Manning, and it's his first one with the starting job. Yes, the Chiefs managed him well, but you don't expect newer players, especially QBs, to start off as well as he has. 

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17 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

my cleveland browns are a great story.  didn't win a game last year, got the QB of our future in Mayfield and now we are still alive for the playoffs.  Could have a winning record!!  We got the right GM finally in John Dorsey (guy who turned around Green Bay and won a super bowl, and is the reason Kansas City is so good now including Mahomes).  

The Browns have been bad for so long that I've actually developed a soft spot for them. Hopefully they've finally found their QB in Mayfield. How many QBs have they gone through over the years?! Notably, Manziel and RGIII recently. 

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Just now, sibdane said:

The Browns have been bad for so long that I've actually developed a soft spot for them. Hopefully they've finally found their QB in Mayfield. How many QBs have they gone through over the years?! Notably, Manziel and RGIII recently. 

was at around 35 i think since we came back in 99.  

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2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

Drew Brees, enough said.  Most underrated dude in the NFL along with Aaron Rodgers.

Totally agree. I love the Packers, so I really appreciate Rodgers, and I'm about an hour from NOLA so hear about Brees a lot. They'll both go down as all-time greats, especially Brees, even though I think Rodgers is technically better. 

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Drew Brees, enough said.  Most underrated dude in the NFL along with Aaron Rodgers.

Had him as my QB last year. Was great till he did 3 on the bounce for a total of 15 points.

Got mahomes this year... I'm in the final. 

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3 hours ago, hafnia said:

Had him as my QB last year. Was great till he did 3 on the bounce for a total of 15 points.

Got mahomes this year... I'm in the final. 

I'm in the final too in my money league. NFL fantasy football is so much better than fantasy soccer, even though soccer is the greater sport.

Mahomes has been insane. 

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9 hours ago, sibdane said:

I'm in the final too in my money league. NFL fantasy football is so much better than fantasy soccer, even though soccer is the greater sport.

Mahomes has been insane. 

I was predicted 0-13 for my FF league, came second with 10-3 but got knocked out in the first round of playoffs. Still considering that a win considering the initial projection :) 

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On 19/12/2018 at 23:18, sibdane said:

I'm in the final too in my money league. NFL fantasy football is so much better than fantasy soccer, even though soccer is the greater sport.

Mahomes has been insane. 

It's a brilliant real time format.... appeals to the inner geek.  Massively addictive. 

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On 19/12/2018 at 12:53, sibdane said:

The Browns have been bad for so long that I've actually developed a soft spot for them. Hopefully they've finally found their QB in Mayfield. How many QBs have they gone through over the years?! Notably, Manziel and RGIII recently. 

Yeah Mayfield’s a bit of a dick, though. Chubb I like a lot. There’s a lot of good talent there. I’d love to see them do well.

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On 19/12/2018 at 18:18, sibdane said:

I'm in the final too in my money league. NFL fantasy football is so much better than fantasy soccer, even though soccer is the greater sport.

Mahomes has been insane. 

Agreed. It’s frustrating as hell but there are far too many inconsistencies and immeasurables to make fantasy soccer a good game. I’ve tried the past couple years but I just can’t get into it. Hopefully they’ll work it out. I like the draft system better but I was working during the ToffeeTalk draft and ended up with the shittiest squad in the league by a good measure, so I had to quit.

And yeah, Mahomes has been incredible. I have him in 2/3 leagues. Unfortunately I also had Le’veon Bell in one of them.

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7 minutes ago, nyblue23 said:

Agreed. It’s frustrating as hell but there are far too many inconsistencies and immeasurables to make fantasy soccer a good game. I’ve tried the past couple years but I just can’t get into it. Hopefully they’ll work it out. I like the draft system better but I was working during the ToffeeTalk draft and ended up with the shittiest squad in the league by a good measure, so I had to quit.

And yeah, Mahomes has been incredible. I have him in 2/3 leagues. Unfortunately I also had Le’veon Bell in one of them.

Bell has to be the biggest disappointment this season. I'd love to see the statistics on how many people picked him as their first pick.

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

Cue Scudamore coming back to help but only if the clubs pony up another 500k to bring him back.

 

#corrupt

The Telegraph Sport (today) has an article about Dinnage pulling out.  In the article headline, Scudamore is spelled Scuadmore and in the article narrative it says that 'Scudamore would receive a £53 million golden goodbye.   They must have been partying in proof reading.

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Who is the England international who has been copped using cocaine?  Apparently the FA are refusing to name him.

 

(There is no truth in the rumour that his name is Charlie.)

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1 hour ago, johnh said:

Who is the England international who has been copped using cocaine?  Apparently the FA are refusing to name him.

 

(There is no truth in the rumour that his name is Charlie.)

I'm calling bullshit given the "source".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6556189/England-footballer-kicked-nightclub-caught-snorting-cocaine-toilet.html

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5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

I was being sarcastic haf I know you hate him with a passion.  

To be honest he's no worse than a lot of them but what he did at villa was particularly awful. 

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35 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

dembele to china for 9m.  i would have been all over that if i was in charge.  he could be the lone sitter we need, physical and great dribbler of the ball able to move quick in transition.

I don't think we should be trying to compete for players that are only interested in a pay cheque, which is the only reason why anyone goes to China.

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17 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

dembele to china for 9m.  i would have been all over that if i was in charge.  he could be the lone sitter we need, physical and great dribbler of the ball able to move quick in transition.

At 31? 

He was a great, often underrated, player but he’s been out so long that by the time he got up to speed again, he’d be 32. 

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

At 31? 

He was a great, often underrated, player but he’s been out so long that by the time he got up to speed again, he’d be 32. 

He is class and speed has never been his game ala Barry.  He’s a dribbler like no other.  StRted At CF for Fulham, moved to the wing, then to the deep role.  I used to watch a lot of Fulham back then because they had Dempsey my favorite American player.  Dembele was a beast on the ball, no one could take it off him.  He still is

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

At 31? 

He was a great, often underrated, player but he’s been out so long that by the time he got up to speed again, he’d be 32. 

you think he could get up speed again?  what about stopping?:lol:

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