Mike Preece

If we lose Fellaini , Baines or god forbid both, the talk is James McCarthy ( who we all agree would be good) and now today Ryan Bertrand from
Chelsea ( again can see the sense) and a guy called Bruno Martins Indi who I confess to knowing nothing about.
 
But im thinking more and more about Jermaine Defoe.
 
1. A player with a proven track record and always looked the business.
2. warming the bench, seemingly not fancied by AVB.
3.Been linked with moves, dying for first team football, and a point to prove.
 
Our strikers Jela and Kone don't look the part at the moment, although I think highly of both, its just not happening yet, Defoe would be a major
kick to both of them, and see no reason why Defoe could,nt play along side one of them. And for Everton he could be another Kevin Campbell
another player who mostly forgotten, came to us and was brilliant and earned himself life long Everton fan respect.
 
Im half expecting some of you to shoot me down on this, or tell me reasons why we cant that im unaware of or have heard something about
Defoe,s situation that I don't know.
 
But bearing that in mind I totally stand by this post, However I don't know his current price some of you will no doubt enlighten me.
 
If we do lose 1 or 2 of our best, McCarthy and Bertrand I think by all means yes. But I think Defoe ( if possible or available) could turn out
fantastic for us so isn't he worth looking at ?
 
Might get a barrage of you all over this post for ignorance or not knowing the situation with him, but I would absolutely love Everton to
look at Defoe and see what ive been thinking for ages...But again emphasise its just my wishful thinking ,but to my mind its a good idea
Load up and fire away at me if you have a mind to...But it does make sense to me.

Medel mistimes his challenge and Baines is supposed to do him a favour and jump out of the way? Savage is a muppet.

If we lose Fellaini , Baines or god forbid both, the talk is James McCarthy ( who we all agree would be good) and now today Ryan Bertrand from
Chelsea ( again can see the sense) and a guy called Bruno Martins Indi who I confess to knowing nothing about.
 
But im thinking more and more about Jermaine Defoe.
 
1. A player with a proven track record and always looked the business.
2. warming the bench, seemingly not fancied by AVB.
3.Been linked with moves, dying for first team football, and a point to prove.
 
Our strikers Jela and Kone don't look the part at the moment, although I think highly of both, its just not happening yet, Defoe would be a major
kick to both of them, and see no reason why Defoe could,nt play along side one of them. And for Everton he could be another Kevin Campbell
another player who mostly forgotten, came to us and was brilliant and earned himself life long Everton fan respect.
 
Im half expecting some of you to shoot me down on this, or tell me reasons why we cant that im unaware of or have heard something about
Defoe,s situation that I don't know.
 
But bearing that in mind I totally stand by this post, However I don't know his current price some of you will no doubt enlighten me.
 
If we do lose 1 or 2 of our best, McCarthy and Bertrand I think by all means yes. But I think Defoe ( if possible or available) could turn out
fantastic for us so isn't he worth looking at ?
 
Might get a barrage of you all over this post for ignorance or not knowing the situation with him, but I would absolutely love Everton to
look at Defoe and see what ive been thinking for ages...But again emphasise its just my wishful thinking ,but to my mind its a good idea
Load up and fire away at me if you have a mind to...But it does make sense to me.

Just got back from the game, 3rd league game we should have won, all the possession but the lack of punch and end product
is a worry. First half fellaini played more like a centre half never seen him sit so deep, Again Barkley our most likely player
always wants the ball, does,nt hide or shirk, other than him thought Distin had a good game,and him and jags mostly solid.
But the ball went through our midfield too often.
 
Trouble is too many of our players not firing yet. Mirallas, Pienaar and Ossie the main culprits. whats up with Mirallas ?
on the fringes of everything, looking out of sorts. Not many teams will give us the freedom of the pitch like Cardiff
and we lacked that killer touch all game, really thought Kone might snatch it at the death. It is frustrating and I shudder to think
what would happen if Baines and Felli go. Under Walter Smith we had this similar lack of cohesion, although Walter was far more
negative.
 
At least we have,nt lost, but Norwich, WBA and Cardiff should have been beaten. My plus point was I managed to get in with our
wonderful fans after all. managed to get an away ticket and sort the Cardiff one I first had.
 
We are all worried and a bit disheartened at the moment but don't let the negatives obsess us. must try and stay positive
and hope things turn for us. One good win is the tonic needed. The great support this club has will always be there.
 
This post is a jaded one also, im knackered from racing through Cardiff for my train, not a young man anymore
early night calling, but I was there to support my lads, and the great company of Evertonians made it not a wholly bad day.
Rub of the green, one foot or head in the right place and we might turn around.
Come on blues, come on Roberto we are behind you. And a poor performance off me post wise also.

So gutted, so sick of this whole business, im at a loss for words. Was dying for Baines to say, no I don't want to go, I want to stay at
 
Everton. But the signs for him and Felli are ominous. Will we ever see the likes of a Matt Le Tissier ( Southampton) or a Steve Bull (Wolves) again).
 
2 players who despite constant and numerous offers, stayed totally loyal out of sheer love for their club, Both won no honours, but both played
 
for England. I know Hibbo Loves the club, but those 2 I mentioned were 2 in demand players could literally take their pick, and yet they stayed
We just will not see their like again ever And before anybody says what a naïve post, I,d say its just the hope that one of my favourite players
stays out of love for Everton and us fans. I am a fool to think it.
 
One bright spark today, got a ticket today for the Cardiff game after I had all but given up. Going with a decent Proper Cardiff fan and I,ll
have to control all urges and sit quietly in a Cardiff stand. But I,ll be watching Everton so im happy.
Players come players go, but that royal blue shirt is forever.

Bit unfair there Zoo, they are a league 1 side who have lost 3 out of their last 4, they were aiming for the pen shoot out
 
and bar one terrible error nearly got it. Good luck to them and their fans who made the journey.
 
Yes we should have had a hatful, but we got through that's the main thing. But Stevenage made us work till the end.
 
Still totally convinced we need a target up front be it victor or Felli (if he stays) to play alongside Jela or Kone ( who still looks rusty to me)
 
Tons of neat approach play and passing, but need the plan b, when we cant play our way through.

Notice a lot of you talking about the Europa league a lot along with the Capital cup. To me the Europa league is the side
issue. Wish to explain myself with a perspective from an unsuccessful then a successful Everton. Bear with me and you,ll see what im
getting at.
 
1. Take Mick Lyons the unluckiest Everton captain ever, one of my earliest Everton heroes, a true stalwart who would run through
walls for the club. Captain at a time when Liverpool were winning absolutely everything and how hard that was for us fans.
 
A, In 1977 we lose the league cup final to Aston Villa after 2 replays.
B. Same year F.A cup semi final, we are drawing 2-2 with Liverpool. Bryan Hamilton scores a perfectly good goal. Infamous ref Clive Thomas
calls it wrongly offside, we are thrashed 3-0 in the replay at Maine Road.
C. 1980 F.A cup semi Final replay Elland Road. We are 1-0 down 10 mins left, Brian Kidd equalises we press forward.
Then in extra time right at the death Frank Lampard breaks our hearts. Total and utter despair, awful to take.
D. No medals in his whole career for a great Evertonian. Ditto, Andy King, Terry Darracott, Ronnie Goodlass, George Wood ( loved him, great keeper, great bloke) In fact my best memory from around 1975-80 and the only consolation was the Andy King screamer that beat that legendary Liverpool
team at Goodison in 1978.
Another great sweat blood for the club type Mark Higgins in the early 80,s ..No medals.
 
Now the success, one of the best days of my life. Sat May 19th 1984 F.A cup final v Watford.. From my point
 
Went to Wembley along with a mate no ticket, went in hope. About 12.15 on the day we bought two £5 terrace tickets for £30 each.
Bear in mind you could have a good night on £5 in those days.
They were Watford end tickets, so we went shouting around the mingling Watford fans for a swap. We exchanged with a father and son
who had Everton end tickets.
Behind the goal where Sharpy scored the first goal, Andy Gray got the 2nd..
seeing Kevin Ratcliffe lift that trophy, hard to describe the elation, the heart bursting pride, the sheer magic of it.
We of course went on to be fantastic, but nothing will ever beat that day. So special, so proud, the sheer joy among our fans that day
was unbeleiveable.
 
You might think ive rambled or think whats my point, but its simple. We now gone 18 years without silverware, we are not of the stature we were,
to us fans Everton are the biggest and best club on earth. But around Europe we are not thought of that way.
 
So the Capital One and the F.A cup are our most realistic chance of doing something, and hope we go full tilt for both.
 
People go on about your 4th place ,and your Europa league all they like, but I want to see an Everton captain (hopefully Jags this Season)
climb those Wembley steps an lift a trophy for Everton football Club.
That's what is remembered, that's what matters. Take hibbo for instance, imagine him getting a medal before his career finishes and what it would mean.
 
When players retire they want to say to their grandkids I won that medal in a cup final for Everton.
 
The Europa league is a bonus or not, but the traditions we love, the if you know your history, everthing we treasure about our clubs heritage
comes from the Everton teams that won trophies.
 
To any younger Evertonian, who has,nt seen it happen in their lifetime, I would say. Keep loving the club, keep you faith good times and bad.
cos believe me Everton winning a trophy is the most fantastic feeling on this earth, and I hope we,ll see it again.
 
Long post but hope you all understand why I had to say it.

Notice a lot of you talking about the Europa league a lot along with the Capital cup. To me the Europa league is the side
issue. Wish to explain myself with a perspective from an unsuccessful then a successful Everton. Bear with me and you,ll see what im
getting at.
 
1. Take Mick Lyons the unluckiest Everton captain ever, one of my earliest Everton heroes, a true stalwart who would run through
walls for the club. Captain at a time when Liverpool were winning absolutely everything and how hard that was for us fans.
 
A, In 1977 we lose the league cup final to Aston Villa after 2 replays.
B. Same year F.A cup semi final, we are drawing 2-2 with Liverpool. Bryan Hamilton scores a perfectly good goal. Infamous ref Clive Thomas
calls it wrongly offside, we are thrashed 3-0 in the replay at Maine Road.
C. 1980 F.A cup semi Final replay Elland Road. We are 1-0 down 10 mins left, Brian Kidd equalises we press forward.
Then in extra time right at the death Frank Lampard breaks our hearts. Total and utter despair, awful to take.
D. No medals in his whole career for a great Evertonian. Ditto, Andy King, Terry Darracott, Ronnie Goodlass, George Wood ( loved him, great keeper, great bloke) In fact my best memory from around 1975-80 and the only consolation was the Andy King screamer that beat that legendary Liverpool
team at Goodison in 1978.
Another great sweat blood for the club type Mark Higgins in the early 80,s ..No medals.
 
Now the success, one of the best days of my life. Sat May 19th 1984 F.A cup final v Watford.. From my point
 
Went to Wembley along with a mate no ticket, went in hope. About 12.15 on the day we bought two £5 terrace tickets for £30 each.
Bear in mind you could have a good night on £5 in those days.
They were Watford end tickets, so we went shouting around the mingling Watford fans for a swap. We exchanged with a father and son
who had Everton end tickets.
Behind the goal where Sharpy scored the first goal, Andy Gray got the 2nd..
seeing Kevin Ratcliffe lift that trophy, hard to describe the elation, the heart bursting pride, the sheer magic of it.
We of course went on to be fantastic, but nothing will ever beat that day. So special, so proud, the sheer joy among our fans that day
was unbeleiveable.
 
You might think ive rambled or think whats my point, but its simple. We now gone 18 years without silverware, we are not of the stature we were,
to us fans Everton are the biggest and best club on earth. But around Europe we are not thought of that way.
 
So the Capital One and the F.A cup are our most realistic chance of doing something, and hope we go full tilt for both.
 
People go on about your 4th place ,and your Europa league all they like, but I want to see an Everton captain (hopefully Jags this Season)
climb those Wembley steps an lift a trophy for Everton football Club.
That's what is remembered, that's what matters. Take hibbo for instance, imagine him getting a medal before his career finishes and what it would mean.
 
When players retire they want to say to their grandkids I won that medal in a cup final for Everton.
 
The Europa league is a bonus or not, but the traditions we love, the if you know your history, everthing we treasure about our clubs heritage
comes from the Everton teams that won trophies.
 
To any younger Evertonian, who has,nt seen it happen in their lifetime, I would say. Keep loving the club, keep you faith good times and bad.
cos believe me Everton winning a trophy is the most fantastic feeling on this earth, and I hope we,ll see it again.
 
Long post but hope you all understand why I had to say it.

Find myself in total agreement with D.Kane.
 
With an ounce of luck we would be celebrating 6 points, don't forget Norwich took 4 points off us last season ( And we should have won both)
a draw there is no disgrace. Today a lot of people thought West Brom would roll over and join in Roberto,s first home game spirit and hand us 3 points.
My one big complaint is why Naismith is always brought on, why oh why not Oviedo far more creative and always looking to make things happen.
 
And in a game like today bring Victor on for at least the last 10 minutes, go route one and just bombard their box, he has that fantastic tight turn that has paid off
so many times. Hope the lads manage to knock a few past Stevenage midweek to boost confidence a bit.
 
There has,nt been too much wrong and at least we have,nt lost. Moyes was,nt exactly renowned for having flying starts.
Goodison seemed primed for a party today and the expectation was a home banker but West Brom were the poopers.
 
Lets look forward to Cardiff , want a win there really badly being a welsh Evertonian.

.Here, here to all the above comments, Moyes has acted like a total fucking prick, wait till the bastard next steps foot at Goodison, a damn site difference to his last.
 
Wanker ! never thought I could dislike someone so quickly, especially one I used to admire.

Thanks for the welcome off most of you, appreciate it. Want to say a few things.
 
1. I joined Toffee talk to read about, join in debates, and add my bit to all things Everton.
 
2.I appreciate my first post was poorly laid out and not spaced right, but im new to computers and didn't really know how to do it.
But im learning as I go along.
 
3. Really shocked at the arguments and bickering. Will never get involved in that nonsense, what is the point ?
 
4. If anyone likes my posts and finds them interesting, fine thanks to all who commented.
But if you don't like my posts, also fine, everyone entitled to their opinion, but just leave me out of the bullshit.
 
5. One thing I don't do is lie or make up yarns for the sake of it, people who know me trust me,
Got a great bunch of friends, and looking forward to our annual lads Blackpool trip on Oct 4th, about 16 of us going.
Point being I don't slag people off, always say things to peoples faces. So I,ll never criticise any one on Toffee talk.
If I have a different opinion to a fellow members post, I wont resort to insults or point scoring.
 
6. Lastly and most importantly we are all fans of the best club on earth, we all love Everton football club
and at the end of the day, isn't that all that matters ?.

Replying to a question off Coffin dodger about who,s the best Everton ball player ?
 
Thought long and hard about this, and could,nt pinpoint just one, so had to pick the ones that stood out for me. And there are a good few.
 
So in order of time heres mine.
 
1. Duncan Mackenzie.
 
A superb natural talent, he oozed skill and a great entertainer and had that unpredictable genius. He had that charisma, added a touch of Hollywood if you
like. Trouble was he was to individual for a disciplinarian like Gordon Lee. Well loved and still is at Goodison.
 
2.Dave Thomas.
 
One of the unluckiest players ever, could have been an Everton legend. He was the idol of QPR when we signed him.
Fit and at his best, what a player. When he raced down the wing the ball was glued to his feet, left opposition players for dead, and would have been
an England regular. Sadly Dave was cursed by injuries, ruined his career. In full flow a sight to remember.
 
3.Adrian Heath.
 
When we first signed Inchy I among many others was,nt that impressed, but how wrong we were. Great first touch, could turn in a flash
and had such a deceptive pace, so quick over short bursts. He caused havoc running into penalty areas, mazy runs, tight close control.
Him and Sharpy my favourite Everton front two without a doubt.
I,ll never forget that awful day he got that long term injury. I was at the game v Sheffield Wednesday on a horrible rain lashed day.
Happened in front of the main stand and you could instantly see it was a real bad one. If my memory serves me right it was Brian Marwood who
knobbled Adrian with an atrocious challenge. Game finished 1-1 but it was irrelevant.
We then signed Andy Gray and Inchy was never the same player, still good but he was brilliant before that injury robbed us of him.
 
4.Trevor Steven
 
Mr cool. so comfortable on the ball always seemed to have time and space. Great with 1 2 passing and never seem to be ruffled. Didn't even seem to break
into a sweat, didn't have to cos he was that good. And on the other wing Everton,s all time king of free kicks Kevin Sheedy.
Why is it that whenever pundits talk about the great teams of the past, ours is never mentioned ?
Best Everton team ive ever seen an honour to watch them. And I think one of the best teams of all time. Totally pisses me off the lack of
respect todays so called experts give them. All they remember is sodding Liverpool.
 
5.Andre Kanchelskis.
What an amazing first season he had with us. So fast, so athletic, skinned defenders alive, tremendously exciting to watch, always had Goodison on
its feet We signed a world class player, the excitement when he first came was awesome.
Sadly he seemed to fade just as fast. But for a time he thrilled us all.
 
6. Peter Beardsley
Besides having such talent beardo was a grafter, a totally unselfish but great player. Unmarkable, all over the place, a man who really put
in a shift and never let us down and an eye for the goal.
It is the measure of the man that he is totally respected at every club he played for, and that is a rare thing.
Modest man let his talent do the talking.
 
7, Thomas Gravesen
 
Does this surprise anyone ? it just might, But ive saw Tommy play like a Brazillian, he could be breathtaking..Passing, setting off on runs, dribbling like a
Maradona and breaking up every opposing play, ably assisted by the workhorse Lee Carsley.
Trouble with our Tommy was the very next match he,d turn into a lunatic, hacking people down, getting carded constantly and generally playing like
a headless chicken. You would not believe it was the same man.
A real Jekyll and Hyde character, but at his best a great Everton player.
 
8.Kevin Mirallas.
 
Of the current team, he,s the one that excites me, always looks like something is going to happen, crowd favourite and again a very skilful lad
Some rough edges, does,nt always make the right decisions but he has all the attributes in place. Hope we can hold on to him.
 
I also rate Bryan Oviedo very highly, and want to see a lot more of him.
 
Well there you are Mr Dodger, hope it was,nt to long for you, but your question required and deserved a well thought response.
And I just could,nt mention 1 player.
 
PS Thought of Mikel Artete, but to be honest sick of how he,s become Mr Arsenal like he never played for us. Just don't like it.
Wheres your trophies them Mikey ? Forgive me my bitter blue, but he pisses me off.

well iam amazed that the im 49 but supported everton 39 years bit caused a bit of a stir,let me explain,i was 10 years old when
I started to get into football big time.i wanted to follow a team different to everyone following bloody Liverpool ( even then I knew a bad
lot when I saw them).and I don't like the colour red,so it was everton for me cos no one else I knew ( at the time) followed them.
as you all know everton are addictive and a life long thing.
also someone commented on my lack of paragraphs etc.well put it this way a computer buff I aint.must admit surprised to see fellow
blues squabbling about it.that stuff belongs to fans of the other lot.
anyway hope ive cleared things up a bit and my computer use gets better..cheers all...mike

Thanks for the welcome off most of you, appreciate it. Want to say a few things.
 
1. I joined Toffee talk to read about, join in debates, and add my bit to all things Everton.
 
2.I appreciate my first post was poorly laid out and not spaced right, but im new to computers and didn't really know how to do it.
But im learning as I go along.
 
3. Really shocked at the arguments and bickering. Will never get involved in that nonsense, what is the point ?
 
4. If anyone likes my posts and finds them interesting, fine thanks to all who commented.
But if you don't like my posts, also fine, everyone entitled to their opinion, but just leave me out of the bullshit.
 
5. One thing I don't do is lie or make up yarns for the sake of it, people who know me trust me,
Got a great bunch of friends, and looking forward to our annual lads Blackpool trip on Oct 4th, about 16 of us going.
Point being I don't slag people off, always say things to peoples faces. So I,ll never criticise any one on Toffee talk.
If I have a different opinion to a fellow members post, I wont resort to insults or point scoring.
 
6. Lastly and most importantly we are all fans of the best club on earth, we all love Everton football club
and at the end of the day, isn't that all that matters ?.

and I,d to add a bit more about the emotional side.This club is in my heart,im delighted when we win,gutted when we lose
and furious when the lads don't do themselves justice like the wigan cup game.cos like a fool I allowed myself a dream really
thought our name was on that cup.
I get the same buzz around goodison now as I did at my first home game,a 1-1 end of season draw with Ipswich (1980 im think.but
of course im getting on,my memory aint what it was.the lowest crowd ive been in at goodison was a 4-1 win over notts county
when Adrian heath scored a hat trick and there was 14,ooo there.The 84 cup final will always be my special memory out of
so many,because It was our breakthrough after all those years,and the shit I put up with off Liverpool fans.being there and seeing
rats lift that f.a cup was incredible and I was just so dam proud.
and those who remember it will never forget the pain of west ham in 1980,and the 1 Welshman I hate clive Thomas and what he cost
us in 1977 against the enemy.
and old Trafford fa cup quarter final 1983,when both our team and fans were magnificent,but lou macari haeded down to stapleton
in injury time and we were robbed.to make it worse I was in the Stretford end with 3 jubilant united friends.
well,think ive explained myself to you all,i don't intend to ever get into arguments and bickering on toffee talk.
I just joined to read and share my love of the best club on the earth..im just very proud to be an evertonian.
 
ps just noticed I spelt headed wrong earlier,..us old guys eh !

well iam amazed that the im 49 but supported everton 39 years bit caused a bit of a stir,let me explain,i was 10 years old when
I started to get into football big time.i wanted to follow a team different to everyone following bloody Liverpool ( even then I knew a bad
lot when I saw them).and I don't like the colour red,so it was everton for me cos no one else I knew ( at the time) followed them.
as you all know everton are addictive and a life long thing.
also someone commented on my lack of paragraphs etc.well put it this way a computer buff I aint.must admit surprised to see fellow
blues squabbling about it.that stuff belongs to fans of the other lot.
anyway hope ive cleared things up a bit and my computer use gets better..cheers all...mike

and I,d to add a bit more about the emotional side.This club is in my heart,im delighted when we win,gutted when we lose
and furious when the lads don't do themselves justice like the wigan cup game.cos like a fool I allowed myself a dream really
thought our name was on that cup.
I get the same buzz around goodison now as I did at my first home game,a 1-1 end of season draw with Ipswich (1980 im think.but
of course im getting on,my memory aint what it was.the lowest crowd ive been in at goodison was a 4-1 win over notts county
when Adrian heath scored a hat trick and there was 14,ooo there.The 84 cup final will always be my special memory out of
so many,because It was our breakthrough after all those years,and the shit I put up with off Liverpool fans.being there and seeing
rats lift that f.a cup was incredible and I was just so dam proud.
and those who remember it will never forget the pain of west ham in 1980,and the 1 Welshman I hate clive Thomas and what he cost
us in 1977 against the enemy.
and old Trafford fa cup quarter final 1983,when both our team and fans were magnificent,but lou macari haeded down to stapleton
in injury time and we were robbed.to make it worse I was in the Stretford end with 3 jubilant united friends.
well,think ive explained myself to you all,i don't intend to ever get into arguments and bickering on toffee talk.
I just joined to read and share my love of the best club on the earth..im just very proud to be an evertonian.
 
ps just noticed I spelt headed wrong earlier,..us old guys eh !

well iam amazed that the im 49 but supported everton 39 years bit caused a bit of a stir,let me explain,i was 10 years old when
I started to get into football big time.i wanted to follow a team different to everyone following bloody Liverpool ( even then I knew a bad
lot when I saw them).and I don't like the colour red,so it was everton for me cos no one else I knew ( at the time) followed them.
as you all know everton are addictive and a life long thing.
also someone commented on my lack of paragraphs etc.well put it this way a computer buff I aint.must admit surprised to see fellow
blues squabbling about it.that stuff belongs to fans of the other lot.
anyway hope ive cleared things up a bit and my computer use gets better..cheers all...mike

and I,d to add a bit more about the emotional side.This club is in my heart,im delighted when we win,gutted when we lose
and furious when the lads don't do themselves justice like the wigan cup game.cos like a fool I allowed myself a dream really
thought our name was on that cup.
I get the same buzz around goodison now as I did at my first home game,a 1-1 end of season draw with Ipswich (1980 im think.but
of course im getting on,my memory aint what it was.the lowest crowd ive been in at goodison was a 4-1 win over notts county
when Adrian heath scored a hat trick and there was 14,ooo there.The 84 cup final will always be my special memory out of
so many,because It was our breakthrough after all those years,and the shit I put up with off Liverpool fans.being there and seeing
rats lift that f.a cup was incredible and I was just so dam proud.
and those who remember it will never forget the pain of west ham in 1980,and the 1 Welshman I hate clive Thomas and what he cost
us in 1977 against the enemy.
and old Trafford fa cup quarter final 1983,when both our team and fans were magnificent,but lou macari haeded down to stapleton
in injury time and we were robbed.to make it worse I was in the Stretford end with 3 jubilant united friends.
well,think ive explained myself to you all,i don't intend to ever get into arguments and bickering on toffee talk.
I just joined to read and share my love of the best club on the earth..im just very proud to be an evertonian.
 
ps just noticed I spelt headed wrong earlier,..us old guys eh !

well iam amazed that the im 49 but supported everton 39 years bit caused a bit of a stir,let me explain,i was 10 years old when
I started to get into football big time.i wanted to follow a team different to everyone following bloody Liverpool ( even then I knew a bad
lot when I saw them).and I don't like the colour red,so it was everton for me cos no one else I knew ( at the time) followed them.
as you all know everton are addictive and a life long thing.
also someone commented on my lack of paragraphs etc.well put it this way a computer buff I aint.must admit surprised to see fellow
blues squabbling about it.that stuff belongs to fans of the other lot.
anyway hope ive cleared things up a bit and my computer use gets better..cheers all...mike

hi im mike preece evertonian for 39 years,seen the blues play about 400 times,i go when I can,i could lie and say I go every game but hell whats the point,my first game was Bristol city away think it was 1979 we won 1-0 a trevor ross goal.
 
favourite game ever for performance everton 5 man u 0 oct 84 just sublime most total football ive ever seen.
most emotional fa cup final 84,never thought I'd see us win a trophy ( a lot like now) and I was behind the goal when sharpy scored the first,and another that stands out the Wimbledon 3-2 survival win,cried like a baby,a very emotional day.
 
my home is an everton shrine have,nt missed a home programme since I was 12 ( im 49 now).iam very very proud to be an evertonian,and never miss an everton game ( watch the lads on computeter or sky if I cant go.trying hard to get a ticket for the Cardiff game ( no luck yet).was due to be at goodison for Newcastle,but sky changed it to a Monday night.so I,ll now be at the hull city game oct 19th. I can only go when there is a trip cos cant afford to drive up alone.i know there is a south wales branch,but I,ll contact them when or if I can go more often.i hate Liverpool football club with a vengeance because the best team we ever had never had a chance to prove how good we were cos of their fans at heysel,and ever Liverpool fan I know my age in my town abertillery,gwent only started following them when they were winning everything.up my local the commercial there are 3 evertonians and the usual mancs and kopites.
 
im known for never ever wearing red,even though its welsh colour,just cannot and will not do it. my favourite ever player is peter reid cos he was the engine of the best team we ever had,my first idol was Ronnie goodlass,who always held the cuff of his long sleeved shirt when he was playing.pie man joe Parkinson was another favourite what a wholehearted player.over the years nev southall gave me a dressing room and pitch tour.
 
when I got married kevin ratcliffe and Adrian heath organizied a wedding card signed by the whole team and howard kendall. at present felt strongly it was time for moyes to go,although I'll never forget the atmosphere for his first game v Fulham,the whole 4 sides of goodison were absolutely rocking.delighted with the Martinez appointment,and I for one will not get on his back if we get a bad spell,he,s a football gentleman with a philosophy I admire,iam totally behind him.and for the record the worst everton football I ever saw was under walter smith,even though he was another gent.
 
I totally love our club,my pride and joy and goodison park is my favourite place on earth.another thing I always wondered,evertbody remembers sharpys famous anfield screamer best ever everton goal,but in the final home game before the 84 cup final sharpy scored a similar fantastic goal v QPR but no one seems to remember it.
well hope I aint bored you all too much all the best to you all mike preece.
 
ps for some strange reason toffee talk has my member title as toffee lady,god knows how that happened,and I don't know how to change it,very annoying !

hi im mike preece evertonian for 39 years,seen the blues play about 400 times,i go when I can,i could lie and say I go every game but hell whats the point,my first game was Bristol city away think it was 1979 we won 1-0 a trevor ross goal.
 
favourite game ever for performance everton 5 man u 0 oct 84 just sublime most total football ive ever seen.
most emotional fa cup final 84,never thought I'd see us win a trophy ( a lot like now) and I was behind the goal when sharpy scored the first,and another that stands out the Wimbledon 3-2 survival win,cried like a baby,a very emotional day.
 
my home is an everton shrine have,nt missed a home programme since I was 12 ( im 49 now).iam very very proud to be an evertonian,and never miss an everton game ( watch the lads on computeter or sky if I cant go.trying hard to get a ticket for the Cardiff game ( no luck yet).was due to be at goodison for Newcastle,but sky changed it to a Monday night.so I,ll now be at the hull city game oct 19th. I can only go when there is a trip cos cant afford to drive up alone.i know there is a south wales branch,but I,ll contact them when or if I can go more often.i hate Liverpool football club with a vengeance because the best team we ever had never had a chance to prove how good we were cos of their fans at heysel,and ever Liverpool fan I know my age in my town abertillery,gwent only started following them when they were winning everything.up my local the commercial there are 3 evertonians and the usual mancs and kopites.
 
im known for never ever wearing red,even though its welsh colour,just cannot and will not do it. my favourite ever player is peter reid cos he was the engine of the best team we ever had,my first idol was Ronnie goodlass,who always held the cuff of his long sleeved shirt when he was playing.pie man joe Parkinson was another favourite what a wholehearted player.over the years nev southall gave me a dressing room and pitch tour.
 
when I got married kevin ratcliffe and Adrian heath organizied a wedding card signed by the whole team and howard kendall. at present felt strongly it was time for moyes to go,although I'll never forget the atmosphere for his first game v Fulham,the whole 4 sides of goodison were absolutely rocking.delighted with the Martinez appointment,and I for one will not get on his back if we get a bad spell,he,s a football gentleman with a philosophy I admire,iam totally behind him.and for the record the worst everton football I ever saw was under walter smith,even though he was another gent.
 
I totally love our club,my pride and joy and goodison park is my favourite place on earth.another thing I always wondered,evertbody remembers sharpys famous anfield screamer best ever everton goal,but in the final home game before the 84 cup final sharpy scored a similar fantastic goal v QPR but no one seems to remember it.
well hope I aint bored you all too much all the best to you all mike preece.
 
ps for some strange reason toffee talk has my member title as toffee lady,god knows how that happened,and I don't know how to change it,very annoying !

1. david moyes,good but not that good.not being churlish,but in every big game tha really mattered we came up short.an fa cup final,the semi,and last seasons 2 cup competitions prime example.we just threw too many games away from a good position,never seemed to have a plan b.we threw away so many games last season in the final minutes,and I,ll never forget the infamous 3-0 anfield surrender.and of course we never won at old Trafford,anfield or the emirates.4th spot seemed far more important to moyes than a trophywe had our chances and I was devastated by our cup exits last season.our best chance for years was blown.overall he,s a good man but we needed a change and so did moyes.
 
2.delighted with Roberto Martinez.in reality we were never going to attract the big big names,our only options in my opinion were Roberto
or Michael laudrup and in no circumstances neil lennon.i was rooting for rm the best available,like his football philosophy and a true gentleman.which is good media wise.already we are more of a passing outfit,and he needs to keep our traditional hard to beat ethos.
my only worry is wigan were kamikaze at the back ,great to watch but so slack in defence.really wish Roberto all the very best and pray he does well.
 
3.the money question the great everton mystery ! why do investors never go in for everton ? is it because whoever came in would immediately be faced with funding a new stadium before they even start on forking out on players.is that the reason,and it has never been
explained why we are so skint in the first place,does it all stem from peter Johnson chairmanship ? and also there is a man called lord
grantchester on the board supposed to be one of Britain,s wealthiest men.so why the hell has,nt he ever put is hands in his pockets for
everton ?money isn't everything but the gap between the have and haves not is getting worringly larger.
 
4.the new crest is a disgrace,like something drawn in a school competition.and actually it is very relevant because of the big drop in merchandise sales as so many fans including me are disgusted with it.simply cannot believe ithat bill kenwright didn't stop it.
 
5.wayne rooney,first game back at goodison he was kissing the united badge,i,ll never forgive him for that.its blatantly obvious him
and moyes don't get on.and I imagine moyes is furious tha his arrival and settling in period at old Trafford has totally been ruined
by the rooney situation.and rooney is hated by evertonians and now he,s hated by united fans.does,nt that say it all.
 
6.city have got their signings in early no fuss and that gives them the advantage,chelsea have their prodigal son back and they will be strong.united have the squad that just won the league.a good start for arsenal,spurs,liverpool us or anyone else and who knows,
but you cant see beyond the usual suspects.
 
7.obvious advantage of a settled title winning squad with ferguson upstairs to offer advice.but the big question is if moyes has a
bad start or a bad run later on,then how will united fans react,will they give him time ?
 
8.finishing above Liverpool is nice and no more than that.it only really matters if we were 4th and they were 5th say.but overall the form
and performance of everton is all we care about,trophies are a dam sight more important .but of corse if we were doing well and they
were having a struggle then im delighted
 
9..if we could get a top 6 finish I,d be delighted,it isn't beyond us,but that's if we can stay more injury free than the usual carnage
everton seem to suffer,the cups must be taken very seriously,because a trophy would mean the world to us.i just want us to do well
play good football,and im totally behind Martinez,and for 1 am prepared to be patient.
 
10.united will do well,they always do,but I hope moyes respects us enough not to try and nab bainesy'fellaini I expect to leave.
he,s been making come and get noises for a few seasons now,totally sick of it.dont wont to sound petty.but if moyes comes back
for bainesy,i hope he fails at old Trafford.im not one of those united haters.tts just I passionately love everton football club,always
have always will.