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10 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Take Everton out the equation -  If I was Sean Dyche I wouldn't change what I do, if I was a member of his family/coaching team I would say "why  are you changing a product that there will always be a need for to appease one customer who wants something better".  

its like a golfer with an ugly swing that hits it 50 yards shorter than everyone else..... doesn't win anything, doesn't get people watching him but he makes the cut at most tournaments and pulls in a few million a year and lives a great luxury life.    There will be people saying "make these changes to your swing and you will hit it longer and get lower scores and maybe win something".........  seen it a million times before - golfer gets lost in what they are being taught, it feels alien, they lose confidence and they lose their tour card and with that millions of pounds.

it sounds like I'm making the case to keep dyche and his tactics - I'm not.  I'm advocating hiring a manager who can coach a side to be a better team who can actually dominate and win games.  Dyche when he leaves us will get the likes of Leicester, Leeds, or clubs being relegation threatened offering him good wages and hefty survival bonuses - because he will do the ugly stuff better than most like Allardyce. 

For me dyche isn't the manager to take us to where we want to be but he has stopped us going where we don't want to be. Thats fine, but I don't think he is the type of person to become expensive. It's not him. 

I hear what you are saying & I agree to an extent.

I have my issues with him & after Chelsea I found myself focusing on my issues with him more than what I think he does well.

Stepping back from it all though, he has actually done a far better job than we expected.

As for his style - he has never been in a position to build a squad, Burnley were skint & we haven’t given him anything to build anything. If a Martinez type coach took over Burnley before Dyche, they would go down. Kompany tried to play expansive football with them in the prem & they have been battered.

I’m not saying Dyche can do it but he deserves to be given a chance & hopefully these last 4 games he can try to get the team player a nicer brand of football.

19 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Yep. Absolutely no way offer new contract.  He's here to do a specific job whilst we are in a certain state. 
 

i hope there is no reason to play this brand of football much longer.... needs must and all that but we need an overhaul. 

I would like to hope he gets a good run of games next year to consolidate us as mid table and even look to expand on the style of football.

Football is a results business, after the Chelsea game I was more than concerned that we were on a downward spiral. I never expected us to win the next 2, especially with the dreaded home derby as one of those games.

4 games left for the season, let’s build now & go on a run that instills hope for the next season. (The only loss I am somewhat okay with is against Arsenal if its costs Liverpool the title).

Proud of them all today & hope we see more results like this.

5 minutes ago, badaids said:

Got to say Pickford was fucking amazing tonight too.

That’s the 70 mil version right there

Enjoy that one lads!

I’ve got to add, today is the 8 year anniversary of my mother’s passing & I’m just a ball of emotion right now. It’s always a bitter sweet day but for the lads to pull of that win is just incredible.

I can’t even describe how I feel but this club just means so much.

This lot don’t like losing & its brilliant to see.

Doucs nearly losing his head there, would have rather seen him come off instead of Gana 

Ever a time for Onana to put in a shift, this is it.

What on earth is happening here! 2-0!

Ah fuck Young on for Myko

Myko is all heart. I completely tore 2 ligaments in my ankle 7 weeks ago & felt it watching that replay 

Branthwaite grabbing the badge after scoring gives me goosebumps 

VVD on a yellow. Get at him now 

Let’s go lads!!!

been better than I expected so far. Hopefully we can keep it up

12 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Beto most similar. Chermiti Looks like he's got unreal core strength - holds the ground well. 
 

I think Chermiti is quite technical as well, he can do a bit with the ball at his feet as well. Not ready to be an out & out starter but he has good potential. 

Everton 1 - Liverpool 2

McNeil

1 hour ago, c1982 said:

I can see Martinez leaving Villa in the summer for a Barca/Real profile. I can see Villa coming in for Pickford.

I can see him going on to a big club like that as well. Villa dont mind spending some money as well. I don't want to lose Pickford but his value is only going to go down from here on in. We have to get the replacement right though. Onana is the easiest to replace of the 3 we could be selling, for example Ndidi on a free would be good business.

8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

David Coote is on VAR for this game and he's from Nottingham.

I wonder if we'll complain .

It would be quite funny if we were to say to the PL “in light of recent complaints, we are concerned about having an official who is from the area of a relegation rival in critical position”

7 minutes ago, FairWooney said:

With 5 Draw's in the last 6 Goodison Derby's it's not all doom and gloom but a win is a rare occurrence.

4 of the last 6 have also been 0-0 including last seasons match.

Liverpool have gone 6 games without a clean sheet with the last coming away at Forest back on 2nd March.

Everton's last win at Goodison v Liverpool was back in 2010 with a 2-0 win (Arteta and Cahill)

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With (probably) only 1 more Goodison derby after this and it likely being the last night game at Goodison versus the neighbors it would be brilliant if we could come away with the win that would surely seal our safety.  History clearly doesn't favour us with 14 years since the last win and only 1 win home or away in that whole time.

The big concern fitness wise will be on Calvert-Lewin.  He had issues against Forest but asked to be given 5 minutes then went off.  He seemed mobile enough but I'm sure they will want to be careful with him given his recent injury problems.  Beto will be out after his concussion on Sunday.  I thought Chimitti got stuck in well for the short period he had but hopefully DCL will be fit and he will just be required as a sub.

Young HAS TO BE DROPPED! - He was caught out too many times at the weekend and realistically should have given away at least 1 penalty.  up against Diaz out wide he will be skinned.  If Coleman isn't fit then I'd play Garner at right back though I expect Dyche will opt for either Young or go with Godfrey.

 

              Pickford

Coleman       Tarks  Branthwaite     Mykolenko

                    Gueye   Onana/Garner

                         Doucoure

                              DCL

Although it was good to see Gomes start I think in a game where we would expect to be limited possession wise we will favour a more combative player in either Onana or Garner.

I'm going to break from the tradition of 0-0's but i'm not confident of a win.  Liverpool struggle to keep the goals out so think we can get one.

1-1

Tarkowski with the goal for us

Gomes is not renowned for his running but he puts in more of a shift than Onana.

3 man midfield of Gana Gomes & Doucoure (work ethic gets him in)

Is Coleman fit? Even if he is, Garner definitely do a job at RB. We need energy & mobility in that wide positions, Coleman & Young will get ripped apart.

Upsets happen in football, I just hope we go in to this one with high intensity & a positive mindset.

Just now, Romey 1878 said:

I was agreeing with you totally. Like I said in the matchday thread, I thought we played some good stuff. For both goals we were passing it around beforehand (more so for the second goal, where the passing had more purpose).

We just don't do it over long periods during games.

Sorry mate I wasn’t implying you weren’t, more so that it wasn’t a clinical performance in possession but definitely an improved on.

I was really disappointed we went away from it in the second half. Shame about Dele this year as he would contribute greatly to the team playing that way.

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Love the optimism, but I don't think he'll ever be a major asset anywhere

Sadly I agree. I want to say lack of consistent minutes, adapting to the league ect ect but for such a big lad I really expected him to bully defenders more.

Not writing him off but his physical attributes have not been impressive enough to outweigh his expected technical flaws.

Just now, Romey 1878 said:

Sometimes, I think our anxiety over our current situation sometimes makes us view games in a skewed way.

Like yesterday, we were actually fairly comfortable and the better side for the most part, but because conceding one goal can be so damaging for us I couldn't really enjoy anything about the game.

Yeah I agree mate & I’m not suggesting we were knocking it around like prime Barcelona however, there did seem to be a shift in tactics.

Our wing play remains absolute dogshit though. Crying out for someone with a bit of pace.

9 hours ago, Hafnia said:

I'm still not convinced in how we play. Still think we are 50% reliant on other teams below us being poo. 
 

there was spirit today which is good but we are not a very well coached team in possession and it scares me. Another day and we lose that with Pickford and the ref/var

I thought in the first in particular there were plenty of good passing moments, players looking for space and playing the ball forward.

Agree it wasn’t a straight forward 2-0 but a good result nonetheless.