Newty82

First time visiting the Grand Old Lady this season. Coincidentally we will be mathematically safe if Luton fail to win and we get 3 points, so it looks like I've picked a good one! Can't wait, the atmosphere at the derby sounded like it was the best it has been in a long time, hopefully it's something similar.
Going to take a nosey at BMD whilst I'm there too, really looking forward to it.
 
COYB!

Brentford are nothing to fear and never have been.
Go out there and give everything, that's all I ask. If we get the result then great but I just want another committed performance.

I always laugh when you make his point. You're the poster with the most extreme posts in both ways, positive and critical, in my eyes 
He's absolutely a firefighter and the club is still on fire. Ironically, it's the only part of the club thats actually improved! I really don't see that settling next season or the season after after to be honest. With a change of owners coming, with a change of home, fire sale of the squad coming... I ask who, again, would be crazy enough and good enough to get this team performing better than a mid table club? I know you can't or don't want to name names but my point is that if you're so clear on the problems, I would assume there'd be some ideas about how or who to fix them would. 
I'm not aiming to dig or tease here. Genuinely curious to hear about alternatives as I keep hearing this complaint about things not being good enough but with no ideas on how to improve. Things like passing and finishing is 100% on the players, the manager isn't on the pitch and is putting tactics in place that has dramatically improved our defence whilst creating a lot more chances. I've no idea who does a better job with this squad in this situation.

Dyche in a suit, 3-0 Brentford. 
Dyche in a trakkie, 73-0 to us.

The comment at the end of the Pickford and Dom interview from Dom, “ We can put the past behind and focus on winning the next derby” I love that, not dwelling on the past.

I agree with those who are championing have a bit of stability in the management department. At the moment there is very little continuity at this club, so wouldn't change the management team unless we absolutely have to. 
 
I think Dyche has done much better than most of the managers we have had in the Moshiri period with much fewer resources and he's had a lot more issues and problems to deal with. Not a high benchmark I must admit, but there has and very much still is over ridding reasons why managers struggle here. I wouldn't doubt any replacement manager coming would find the Everton job easy.
I don't think there have been that many bad performances (5-6 maybe), they may not have been asthetically pleasing, but most haven't been stinkers, I still think we actually deserved more wins/draws that we have ended up with to date. I don't think we have been riding our luck in the games in which we have got results, most points won have been deserved. In an alternative universe when point deductions don't exist and you get a little be more of the rub of the green, we could have just as easy have been in a push for a European spot. Just off the top of my head I still don't understand how Fulham, Wolves and Luton stole 9 points off us at home in the first few weeks of the season - Boom, just considering those 3 games and no points deduction - performance wise we could easily be sitting 8th with 50 points. All ifs and buts, but we have not been far off getting the points West Ham and even Newcastle has to there name this season. 
If we hadn't be artificially 'stuck' in the relegation zone all season, there would be very little talk of swapping Dyche out next season.   

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c90z9j0kkkjo
 

Well you've done it now

You're right. And must admit I was wrong in some cases regarding certain players. Still, Onana has to be sold asap for as much as we can get, but I think most agree on that.
I also think that most here on TT agree that Dyche is not the answer for a longer campaign and that he was brought here to avoid relegation and create stability. Now, as mentioned from Matt, it would be a big fat lie to say we have stability on the pitch, but that also goes for pretty much everything else off the pitch. With the almost secure "success" of stayng in top flight we should hopefully be interesting to a solid owner/sponsorship.
The only way is up, baby.

How is the ability of the international footballers to pass a ball on Dyche? Unless you think he's actively coaching them to be shit passers?
You don't want him here, you've made that clear in pretty much every thread since December, don't remember much prior to that. Meanwhile, I think he's progressed us quite a bit, despite the turmoil around the club, and think he deserves a crack with better players. You haven't managed to convince me until now that there is a better solution, I don't see anything has changed except we won our first home Derby in 14 years, have kept 11 clean sheets, have the 4th best defensive record in the league and should be sitting on a minimum of 41 points. Comparing that versus the last 2 seasons with pretty much the same squad, arguably weaker, and all the noise, that's impressive. Far from good enough, but a massive positive trend. 
Realistically speaking there's 2 options for next season in my eyes:
1) PSR/FFP will continue to screw us over meaning the squad isn't going to be improved upon and, whilst it's mostly ugly, Dyche has got us progressing in the right direction during these very challenging circumstances. So why change? 
2) We're somehow allowed to buy players but still have to be careful with spending, probably more bargain shopping as most sales profits will go to the books. Would you want a new manager in for that? Potentially and with good reasons. People (moreso than players I imagine) could say Dyche can't attract the players we want, let alone could potentially afford. But then who? I accept that we're still attractive with our history and the new stadium, but who takes us further than the last day relegation escapes to a midtable seaonal performance with less options and more pressure? I don't think we'd see this squad go on to a top 8 squad with anyone else, but who knows. Personally I don't think it's a gamble we need to take next season. I think, harsh as it is, that he gets 1 more season and if he doesn't improve further then we've a new manager for the new stadium. That's probably the best we can hope for with all things considered. 

I'd much rather he was our manager next season than not. The following season is another question.
Things don't look like they're going to be any easier for us next season (in terms of off field stuff) so I'd prefer to keep the stability going. We absolutely cannot get relegated any time soon and he's the safest option to make that a reality.
That doesn't mean he's a guarantee but I think it's too risky to get shut in the summer.

Expansive? Either way, he's never had a budget or squad capable of much more than we're seeing. I'm still curious.

What a prick trying to steal Branthwaite's goal though, eh?

I would like to hope he gets a good run of games next year to consolidate us as mid table and even look to expand on the style of football.

https://youtu.be/V6vLFebIyrM?si=wo9Jg2fmA6gXHRnF
2 min highlights
Don't worry I'll be posting every one I can find!

We did have months of dross. It's been a weird season; we had 10 games of UEFA level form and 15 of relegation form. But the goal for this season was improvement and stability. Dunno about the stability, but I still put most of that on the players. But 41 points is the minimum we should be on, a mid table performance after the previous 2 years is a massive achievement. Not been achieved in a pretty way, it's awful to watch for the most part. But we wanted safety before the last game of the season, we wanted an improvement on our league position and he's delivered that in spite of the worst the club has been in since Johnson days.

Listen, fairs fair.
This thread gets red hot when we lose.
It's been, rightly, roasting at times.
That's now 3 wins in 4 with 3 clean sheets.
As said previously, let's limp over the line and judge it at the end of the season. Although, we should be safe now.
But...fair play to Dyche. Considering he's lost the changing room, the players don't want to play for him and all that...

I don't think I've ever felt so calm before and during a derby as I did today. It was so strange. Usually beforehand I'm a mess and just want it over with, but I felt no stress at all during the day. Then during I'm usually on verge of a heart attack but I felt really calm. A lot of that was down to the players because they were brilliant. We were the better side all over the pitch. That's not to say the shite didn't have chances, of course they're going to, but when they did we had our keeper their doing his job perfectly.
I'm so proud of every single player tonight because each and every one of them performed to their optimum and gave everything they had to get that win. It wasn't a lucky win, it wasn't handed to us, we went out there and we won that game for ourselves and fucking deserved it.
 
Pickford - What a keeper he is. Made some vital saves and also kept everyone calm when we were under pressure.
Godfrey - His drifting infield caused me a bit of worry but on the whole a brilliant performance and that clearance off the toe of a shite player was key to the victory.
Tarkowski - Glad to see he'd got rid of the clogs tonight! Absolutely rock solid.
Branthwaite - He's some player, isn't he? I loved watching him tonight. So calm and composed and just dealt with everything that was thrown at him impeccably. Nice to see him get another goal too.
Mykolenko - I hope his injury isn't too serious (I'd be surprised to see him play on Saturday though) because he was having another solid game until he had to go off.
Harrison - I wish he'd have a bit more willingness to take on his man but tonight he was much more like the Harrison that impressed for Leeds. Pressed, helped out defensively, used the ball well.
Gana - I honestly don't know where he gets the energy but he was absolutely everywhere, from the first whistle until he was subbed off. I was amazed tbh. My MOTM.
Garner - It felt like he didn't actually touch the ball all that often (probably wasn't the case) but he was so disciplined in where he was on the pitch, which was needed while Gana went hunting.
McNeil - His deliveries were fucking fantastic tonight. We've let ourselves down in that department in recent weeks but they were so dangerous from him tonight. He put it on a plate for Dom to power home his header. His work rate was right up there as well - just kept going and going and going.
Doucoure - He's still not at the level he was before his injury but he's getting there. We still got the misplaced passes but we also got the pure effort and graft that we've come to love.
DCL - Our number 9 played like a proper number 9. I thought he bullied the shites CB's all game and gave them a torrid time. He just worked, worked, worked and I'm so pleased that his efforts were rewarded with scoring the goal that sealed the win and could get the adulation from the Gwladys Street End like he deserved.

Just think what he could achieve if the players pick up their tools again.

Bollocks.

Most of us wanted a season of simply not worrying about relegation. With 10th being awesome and 12 - 14th more realistic.
See how many points we get and then add on the deductions for a fair appraisal.

Listen, fairs fair.
This thread gets red hot when we lose.
It's been, rightly, roasting at times.
That's now 3 wins in 4 with 3 clean sheets.
As said previously, let's limp over the line and judge it at the end of the season. Although, we should be safe now.
But...fair play to Dyche. Considering he's lost the changing room, the players don't want to play for him and all that...

Listen, fairs fair.
This thread gets red hot when we lose.
It's been, rightly, roasting at times.
That's now 3 wins in 4 with 3 clean sheets.
As said previously, let's limp over the line and judge it at the end of the season. Although, we should be safe now.
But...fair play to Dyche. Considering he's lost the changing room, the players don't want to play for him and all that...

Most of us wanted a season of simply not worrying about relegation. With 10th being awesome and 12 - 14th more realistic.
See how many points we get and then add on the deductions for a fair appraisal.

Listen, fairs fair.
This thread gets red hot when we lose.
It's been, rightly, roasting at times.
That's now 3 wins in 4 with 3 clean sheets.
As said previously, let's limp over the line and judge it at the end of the season. Although, we should be safe now.
But...fair play to Dyche. Considering he's lost the changing room, the players don't want to play for him and all that...