DangerMouse Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) Well you did more or less accuse me of being a racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited August 21, 2008 by DangerMouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 If this guy is injured why the hell haven't we left this deal until the New Year window? His attitude appears to be mercenary which I don't think will sit well with Moyes but yet again we are pissing about trying to sign someone their club don't want to sell. In this case a New Year deal makes far more sense as his contract will only have months to run We don't want to wait because we need players, Christmas is too late. Anyway, if you read the link i posted just above it looks like it may not go ahead anyway. Rennes are refusing to sell. I really am beginning to lose all hope. I have always thought, don't worry we'll get someone in, but now i really am starting to doubt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 We don't want to wait because we need players, Christmas is too late. Anyway, if you read the link i posted just above it looks like it may not go ahead anyway. Rennes are refusing to sell. I really am beginning to lose all hope. I have always thought, don't worry we'll get someone in, but now i really am starting to doubt it! Don't get me wrong, like all blues I'm well aware of what we need but he is injured, a bad injury last I heard so he won't be fit for weeks but we have continue to chase someone who can't kick a ball and that is stupid in my book as well URGENTLY need fit players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Well we don't know the extent of the injury, last I heard is that it wasn't that bad, just a little bit of swelling. Anyway, doesn't seem to matter anymore. It will become increasingly difficult to get him if Rennes are completly unwilling to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Well we don't know the extent of the injury, last I heard is that it wasn't that bad, just a little bit of swelling. Anyway, doesn't seem to matter anymore. It will become increasingly difficult to get him if Rennes are completly unwilling to let him go. Thats right, but how would we feel if some one came knocking for one of our unavailable players. We have spent all summer pissing into the wind and I'm pissed off with every announcement coming from the club as none of them add up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Thats right, but how would we feel if some one came knocking for one of our unavailable players. We have spent all summer pissing into the wind and I'm pissed off with every announcement coming from the club as none of them add up Well take the AJ case, we only ever said, "we have yet to recieve an offer" not "we wil not sell". The two are very very different answers. Its hardly looking hopeful for us at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Well take the AJ case, we only ever said, "we have yet to recieve an offer" not "we wil not sell". The two are very very different answers. Its hardly looking hopeful for us at the moment We never said no when both Sporting and Rennes have told us to do one A cynic would say that we have persisted with these bids in the assured knowledge that we don't stand a chance of signing either.....................things are going on at GP that we have not been told about, Moyes and Kenwright are acting like people who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery and we know they are better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 We never said no when both Sporting and Rennes have told us to do one A cynic would say that we have persisted with these bids in the assured knowledge that we don't stand a chance of signing either.....................things are going on at GP that we have not been told about, Moyes and Kenwright are acting like people who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery and we know they are better than that But maybe we should have. You need to know when to cut your loses and move on. I agree with what you are saying about about whats going on behind the scenes though. Very bad things seem to be happening to our beloved club, and as a fan its incredibly frustrating because we don't get told what is going on and there is nothing that we can really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 panic stations, seriously. if any of the optimists still possibly think we'll be ok even if we dont have any new players, please come forward now with your reasoning, because i for one need convincing. the only tihing im looking forward to is the £200 getting knocked off season tickets in the cocacola championship. anyone recon we can fill 50,000 seats in the lower leagues? people will think im over reacting, but can anybody see this side (with no orthodox central midfielders what so ever) getting 40 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikels Left Tezzer Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 panic stations, seriously. if any of the optimists still possibly think we'll be ok even if we dont have any new players, please come forward now with your reasoning, because i for one need convincing. the only tihing im looking forward to is the £200 getting knocked off season tickets in the cocacola championship. anyone recon we can fill 50,000 seats in the lower leagues? people will think im over reacting, but can anybody see this side (with no orthodox central midfielders what so ever) getting 40 points? Cahill and Pienaar will be back soon, we won't be relegated we just won't win fuck all or do well in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMorrison183 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 panic stations, seriously. if any of the optimists still possibly think we'll be ok even if we dont have any new players, please come forward now with your reasoning, because i for one need convincing. the only tihing im looking forward to is the £200 getting knocked off season tickets in the cocacola championship. anyone recon we can fill 50,000 seats in the lower leagues? people will think im over reacting, but can anybody see this side (with no orthodox central midfielders what so ever) getting 40 points? This side is still capable of getting 50 points in my opinion. I think you're forgetting just how bad a team has to be to get under 40 points for a season. If our midfield ran "Baines--Jags---Neville---Osman" I'd still say we could hit 40 points (barely), it just would be some terrible football to watch. I actually bet after the terrible start we'd go through with that midfield Neville and Jags would start learning how to put some decent passes in on the ground when they realized just how much of a problem their hoof it play would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinsuffolk Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I m an optimist and believe we will still make several signings, including a couple that will justify a starting place. My reasoning being that there will be a lot of movement in the market (regardless of Everton) between now and 1st September. The fact that a club the size of United still ntend bringing in a striker shows that even they don't simply spend a day or two signing a player. The transfer market is a complicated process, simply because there are too many people involved all of whom stand to make personal fortunes. The principle remains that clubs don't often hold on to players that wish to move and they ultimately take the money. The 2 clubs involved in any deal play cat and mouse until someone blinks. This is the world of high finance we are talking about, not the game of footy we all love. I believe a minimum of 3 will arrive. Happy for you to shoot me down on 2nd September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmurray Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 we were linked with a DM couple weeks ago Topal priced 4m i think dont know anythin bout him though if hes decent wouldnt we have more joy with him in the market?? As apposed to clubs lately playin hardball with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie blue Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yes You are an optimist we have had three months to sign just one player - I am losing all hope there is something going on at the club if they told us we could deal with it but all we are getting fed is bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yes You are an optimist we have had three months to sign just one player - I am losing all hope there is something going on at the club if they told us we could deal with it but all we are getting fed is bullshit. Just to correct you, you are getting fed bullshit by the media. At what point has Everton said we are trying to sign xxxxx and we haven't signed them? The ONLY target confirmed has been Moutinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1eng Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Just to correct you, you are getting fed bullshit by the media.At what point has Everton said we are trying to sign xxxxx and we haven't signed them? The ONLY target confirmed has been Moutinho. Didn't Moyes say he wanted 5 or 6 players? I know no names were mentioned but the 5 or 6 players statement came from the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffa Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 we will sign players we have 2 weeks to sign them and its a fucking joke that you think we will go down. EVERTON DNT GO DOWN. FACT. and if u wer a blue u would realise that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) This side is still capable of getting 50 points in my opinion. I think you're forgetting just how bad a team has to be to get under 40 points for a season. If our midfield ran "Baines--Jags---Neville---Osman" I'd still say we could hit 40 points (barely), it just would be some terrible football to watch. I actually bet after the terrible start we'd go through with that midfield Neville and Jags would start learning how to put some decent passes in on the ground when they realized just how much of a problem their hoof it play would be. hibbert is out for about another three months so neville has to play right back. if jags is in the midfield that means lescott and valente both need to play, is valente capable of playing 38 games? we have no one who can win the ball in midfield, and keep it. if you cant keep the ball, you cant win football matches. lets look at the possibility of yak or arteta getting injured, cahill hasnt been fit for a while so lets pray he can stay on the pitch. if we lost two of them players we would be in as much trouble going forward as we are in the middle, which is causing trouble at the back. two midfielders can make a massive difference on both midfield and defence. we will sign players we have 2 weeks to sign them and its a fucking joke that you think we will go down. EVERTON DNT GO DOWN. FACT. and if u wer a blue u would realise that hate nothing more than some stating FACT as then it must be true. we have just as much chance of going down as boro, bolton, wigan, right now we have SIXTEEN SENIOR PLAYERS FACT!!! TEN OF THEM ARE FIT FACT!!! oh and question me being a blue? you have got to be kidding me! because i fear for the club i love more than anything else on this shambles of a planet i cant be a blue??? get real, take your rose tinted glasses off, yes we could sign players, but the window has been open a long time. why are these two weeks any different. im sure we will sign players, but i can only hope we sign players that are good enough. Edited August 21, 2008 by StevO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 panic stations, seriously. if any of the optimists still possibly think we'll be ok even if we dont have any new players, please come forward now with your reasoning, because i for one need convincing. the only tihing im looking forward to is the £200 getting knocked off season tickets in the cocacola championship. anyone recon we can fill 50,000 seats in the lower leagues? people will think im over reacting, but can anybody see this side (with no orthodox central midfielders what so ever) getting 40 points? I thought that you at least were a bit sensible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I thought that you at least were a bit sensible DM, i assure you i am sensible. we have no central midfielders, one striker (another who cant stay fit and another who isnt anythin special, both teenagers) only sixteen senior players (matchday team is now 18) where is possibility of relegation. it was only a few years back we had a bad start and it can be a downward spiral, we got stuck down there and we had a bigger squad then. there is nothing stopping that happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 ^^^^^^ I see a nice large bet coming off.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 i wont bet against everton DM. if im totally honest, i dont think we will go down, but i just see with every passing day us getting closer and closer to that slippery slope. add the on team problems to the off field trouble, i can see nothing but the bad times returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 As I have said before the problem for me as I see it is if we dont add to the squad we going to struggle this season. Maybe not to a degree of relegation but then I bet Leeds never said that the year they went down. My problem is that without europe next season we will struggle to bring in the top players next season and then the downward spiral starts as all the teams around us get better and better and we dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philinsuffolk Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Players are coming. They will be here by 1st September. It is deeply unfortunate that they are not with us already, missing the important early games of season and doubtless taking a few games to get settled - meaning August and September may well be a scrap for points. If we do struggle for points in these early games, then it seriously dents our hopes for another top 6 finish this season and that is a bad mistake by the club. But players are coming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage9640 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 this aint good http://www.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Footb...Premier-League/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Players are coming. They will be here by 1st September. It is deeply unfortunate that they are not with us already, missing the important early games of season and doubtless taking a few games to get settled - meaning August and September may well be a scrap for points. If we do struggle for points in these early games, then it seriously dents our hopes for another top 6 finish this season and that is a bad mistake by the club. But players are coming... Is this just blind optimism or do you know something? Please tell me it's the latter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Berno Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 From The Guardian: Stéphane M'Bia has seen his latest appeal to join Everton dismissed out of hand by Rennes, as David Moyes awaits a decision from the former Chelsea midfielder Tiago on whether he wants to become the first summer arrival at Goodison Park. Everton hoped to secure a deal for the Cameroon international M'Bia, 22, following his return from the Olympic Games earlier this week but, despite the midfielder's latest attempt to agitate a move to the Premier League, Rennes insist he is not for sale. Everton made an offer of around £7m for M'Bia this month, with the French club believed to be holding out for in excess of £10m. "Our position has not changed," said Rennes' general manager, Pierre Dréossi, yesterday. "We remain determined to retain Stéphane M'Bia. This decision, I repeat, is firm and final." Dréossi was responding to M'Bia's latest interview with L'Equipe, in which he revealed interest from Arsenal and Everton but admitted financial incentives had swayed him towards Merseyside. M'Bia said: "I have been told Arsenal are interested but my position is clear - I want to start the season with Everton. I'm aware that my directors have declared I won't leave but it's just a means to make my price higher. I understand their position and I would do the same. It's politics. "I don't want to play for Rennes any more. I don't worry because English clubs have the resources to sign me. When they really want a player they are ready to spend whatever amount. I'm hopeful it will be done by next week." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) this aint good http://www.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Footb...Premier-League/ That story had already been posted, but here is a more recent one:- http://sports.setanta.com/en/Sport/News/Fo...Premier-League/ Sounds like Diarra to me when he joined Pompey. If he does the job while he is here though thats what i care about at the moment. Then he can fall in love with the club. Edited August 22, 2008 by jamiemaher85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12ubb3rduck Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 From The Guardian: Stéphane M'Bia has seen his latest appeal to join Everton dismissed out of hand by Rennes, as David Moyes awaits a decision from the former Chelsea midfielder Tiago on whether he wants to become the first summer arrival at Goodison Park. Everton hoped to secure a deal for the Cameroon international M'Bia, 22, following his return from the Olympic Games earlier this week but, despite the midfielder's latest attempt to agitate a move to the Premier League, Rennes insist he is not for sale. Everton made an offer of around £7m for M'Bia this month, with the French club believed to be holding out for in excess of £10m. "Our position has not changed," said Rennes' general manager, Pierre Dréossi, yesterday. "We remain determined to retain Stéphane M'Bia. This decision, I repeat, is firm and final." Dréossi was responding to M'Bia's latest interview with L'Equipe, in which he revealed interest from Arsenal and Everton but admitted financial incentives had swayed him towards Merseyside. M'Bia said: "I have been told Arsenal are interested but my position is clear - I want to start the season with Everton. I'm aware that my directors have declared I won't leave but it's just a means to make my price higher. I understand their position and I would do the same. It's politics. "I don't want to play for Rennes any more. I don't worry because English clubs have the resources to sign me. When they really want a player they are ready to spend whatever amount. I'm hopeful it will be done by next week." he obviously hasnt heard of everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Maybe Rennes are just wanting a transfer request.....I know I keep nagging on about it but im sure it would sort a lot of this out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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