adamsmith69 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well, i think we will turn these over, a repeat of the carling cup game wouldn't go a miss. I hope Moyes scraps the 4-5-1 and goes with a 4-4-2. Howard Neil Yobo Distin Baines Gosling Heitinga Rodwell Cahill Yakubu Saha I would rather drop both rodwell and gosling, however we have nobody to step in, i think bily is out. I would also prefer cahill in the middle however he will be pushed into a non-effective position again. Not so confident now i have put the team on paper. F**k it 2-0 a goal a piece to saha and yakubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cols Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 would any1 prefer to put jo on the left wing and bin gosslin..have cahill in the middle .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 would any1 prefer to put jo on the left wing and bin gosslin..have cahill in the middle .. Yes. No question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I thought we should have gone with Jo on the left against United, at least then Cahill could have been on his natural side. We have to win, we just have to, so 442 is the only option IMO. A bit of attacking play wouldn't go amiss either seeing as that is how sides generally score against the opposition. Howard Neill Yobo Distin Baines Cahill/Pienaar if fit Rodwell Heitinga Jo Yak Saha I know Pienaar has built up a good relationship with Baines but I'd drop Cahill in a flash if it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Id like to see Moyes shake up what he can for this game, in either a 4-5-1 or 4-4-2. I get the feeling he will go 4-4-2 because that got us the most success against the Mancs, and knowing the predictability of Moyes he will probably think it will work against Hull, even though it very rarely does for us. Id play 4-5-1 because at this moment, Yakubu looks to have more impact from the bench and should things not be working out Moyes should be prepared to change it earlier on. My formation would be: Howard Neill - Yobo - Distin - Baines Heintga - Rowdell Baxter Jo Cahill Saha Id look to make sure Cahill doesnt drop too deep, so that it will more or less play like a 4-4-2 with cover if its necessary. Baxter might as well get a run out because lets face it, Gosling has been shocking, and I imagine Baxter will have a slightly more attacking mindset being a striker more predominantly. A Similar type of thing with Jo as well, hes a confidence player and needs games, even if they are out on the left. Plus of all the players we currently have available he is the most creative, even if his decisions arent always the best. I also think Moyes needs to nominate one of Rodwell or Heitinga to be a proper holding midfielder and actually protect the back 4, a la Carsley and let the other have a bit more creative freedom and get forward if its on. As someone said on a different thread, Everton may have missed a trick on not buying Cana for this role. I desperately hope its a win, and a big win, especially ahead of the derby but I just dont see it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 There is absolutely zero chance of Baxter, or any other youngster (apart from Gosling and Rodwell), getting a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 i would like to see 442 aswell, though im not as confident that DM will. Seeings as that is pretty much dreamland, with the resources available, i may even think of 532 (just to try something new!): .........howard Neill Yobo Distin Baines .......Heitinga Cahill Rodwell ........Saha Yak........Jo Baines and Neill can push forward, Johnny holding the middle infront of the defence. Saha behind the front 2 because he is our only source of creativity at the moment would be a good outlet if he was dropped further back. Hull are hardly a dominant force in the centre of the pitch (or anywhere else on the pitch for that matter) so why not go all out and beat them into submission! 4-0, why not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) would any1 prefer to put jo on the left wing and bin gosslin..have cahill in the middle .. Yes...Gosling isn't good enough for this league imo. Every player he has come up against this season has tore him apart. I can honestly say I think Hibbert has a better final ball, young or not if that's the case he shouldn't get near our team. I know the squads thin but he doesnt have to start. Edited November 23, 2009 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I'd play Neil at left back and push Baines on. Bullard pulls the strings for them so we have to watch him.Go for 1-2 cos we cant keep a clean sheet. Saha and Baines pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'd play Neil at left back and push Baines on. Bullard pulls the strings for them so we have to watch him.Go for 1-2 cos we cant keep a clean sheet. Saha and Baines pen. Playing even more players out of position is not going to help us, we're struggling badly with balance as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Score draw. Hull have found their shootin boots and Bullard is the key. Stop Bullard, you stop the goals. Im hoping Howard is ready because he will shoot from distance everytime he is given space, and the way we're playin, we'll give him plenty of opportunities to do that! Defenders cannot be complacent in this game, maybe on paper they're poor put with their grit and determination to survive, i know they'll be running at us for 90mins+. This is however a better opportunity for us to get Yak and Saha playing together. 4-4-2 is a must IMO, as said Jo on the left and Cahill/pienaar on the right. Keep Rodwell and Heitinga in the middle, but tell one to be primarily a CM and the other a DM. Rodwell could be given the chance to shine in the middle if DM wants him to, but we will see. Neil must start (RB or RM) he's been one of the only positives from our recent games, so lets keep him and hope that Hibbert hasnt prostituted his wife to Moyes once again. 2-2 EFC - Saha, Yakubu HCAFC - Bullard, Ghilas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Playing even more players out of position is not going to help us, we're struggling badly with balance as it is. If we keep Baines at left back that still means we are going to be playing somebody on the left of midfield out of position. I'd rather have a natural left footer who can give us some width rather than Cahill,Gosling etc having to cut in on their right foot to slow the attack down. I think the team would be alot more "balanced" than the other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 If we keep Baines at left back that still means we are going to be playing somebody on the left of midfield out of position. I'd rather have a natural left footer who can give us some width rather than Cahill,Gosling etc having to cut in on their right foot to slow the attack down. I think the team would be alot more "balanced" than the other options. I suppose anything that stops Gosling playing would be a positive tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrawfor Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) I'm going 9-1 for us. Saha from 6 yds Rodders from 40. Cahill's Head. Pienaar left footed right side of box from 15yds OG for Hull (take your pick) Hibbo from 18yds. Saha off the restart. Saha from nothing. Gosling in the 110th. A tiger storms the field, bites the ball away from Rodder's and runs the ball into the goal for Hull. Howard then tames the tiger and adopts it as a pet. Edited November 24, 2009 by bluenoseyankee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm going 9-1 for us. Saha from 6 yds Rodders from 40. Cahill's Head. Pienaar left footed right side of box from 15yds OG for Hull (take your pick) Hibbo from 18yds. Saha off the restart. Saha from nothing. Gosling in the 110th. A tiger storms the field, bites the ball away from Rodder's and runs the ball into the goal for Hull. Howard then tames the tiger and adopts it as a pet. That's completely ridiculous. There's only ever 110 minutes in a game when it's all square at Old Trafford. The rest could happen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Score draw. Hull have found their shootin boots and Bullard is the key. Stop Bullard, you stop the goals. Im hoping Howard is ready because he will shoot from distance everytime he is given space, and the way we're playin, we'll give him plenty of opportunities to do that! Defenders cannot be complacent in this game, maybe on paper they're poor put with their grit and determination to survive, i know they'll be running at us for 90mins+. This is however a better opportunity for us to get Yak and Saha playing together. 4-4-2 is a must IMO, as said Jo on the left and Cahill/pienaar on the right. Keep Rodwell and Heitinga in the middle, but tell one to be primarily a CM and the other a DM. Rodwell could be given the chance to shine in the middle if DM wants him to, but we will see. Neil must start (RB or RM) he's been one of the only positives from our recent games, so lets keep him and hope that Hibbert hasnt prostituted his wife to Moyes once again. Pretty much spot on for me... I would give almost anything to have a player with the drive and energy of Bullard in the middle of the park for right now. I used to think that was Timmy for us but recently he has been about as inspiring as [insert joke here cos I cant think of one right now]. Bullard will absolutely run the show for them tomorrow but hopefully Heitinga or someone will be used to do a job on him. The Heitinga/Rodwell thing is right on the mark, one of them has to sit and one of them has to be given a free role to get forward. Against Man U it looked as if they didnt know who was meant to be doing what. Id also like to see Cahill play on the touch line to offer width if he is going to start on a wing. Im not saying he has to play like a traditional winger, but at least start out wide to offer a pass and stretch there defence. Having said this, I can more or less guarentee none of it will happen... Bullard will roam free, cahill will, er, well im not sure what is doing for the team at the moment, and the supply to the frontment will be non existent apart from the odd Distin/Yobo hoof... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I am not expecting any sort of classic but for Christs sake Davey show some balls and go for it. We need a real confidence boost right now, especially with Sunday looming large, and if I hear the team news as I take up my seat blurting out a 4-5-1 formation from the tannoys then my own confidence will certainly drop. This is a game that we should be winning with ease if we have any pretentions and I say that bearing in mind our injuries at present. I would certainly start two up front and why is no-one mentioning putting Rodwell on the left and moving Cahill inside and letting Heittinga remain as the defensive, central midfielder. That may offer a better balance. Anyway I shall remain optimistic and predict a 2-0 win for us. I do hope I am right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Pretty much spot on for me... I would give almost anything to have a player with the drive and energy of Bullard in the middle of the park for right now. I used to think that was Timmy for us but recently he has been about as inspiring as [insert joke here cos I cant think of one right now]. Bullard will absolutely run the show for them tomorrow but hopefully Heitinga or someone will be used to do a job on him. The Heitinga/Rodwell thing is right on the mark, one of them has to sit and one of them has to be given a free role to get forward. Against Man U it looked as if they didnt know who was meant to be doing what. Id also like to see Cahill play on the touch line to offer width if he is going to start on a wing. Im not saying he has to play like a traditional winger, but at least start out wide to offer a pass and stretch there defence. Having said this, I can more or less guarentee none of it will happen... Bullard will roam free, cahill will, er, well im not sure what is doing for the team at the moment, and the supply to the frontment will be non existent apart from the odd Distin/Yobo hoof... Get real Bullard is crap I would sooner have Cahill any day of the week Bullard is a cheeky cockney chappey who will probably try about 40 shots from miles out and about 39 of them will be 40 yards wide. Fair enough he has got a decent free kick on him but that about it On a brighter not Moyse has hinted Peanuts might make an appearance at some point http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/pienaar-could-face-hull.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprooly Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Everton: Howard, Nash, Hibbert, Yobo, Heitinga, Neill, Distin, Baines, Rodwell, Gosling, Cahill, Pienaar, Yakubu, Saha, Jo, Wallace, Baxter, Agard, Duffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cz.toffee Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 2:0 Everton. Brace from Yak. Howard Neill-Yobo-Distin-Baines Gosling-Rodwell-Heitinga-Pienaar (hopefully) Cahill Yakubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 http://www.clubcall.com/everton/midfielder-blow-boss-980852.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 If that's true and Pienaar is out then I'd put these eleven on the pitch. Howard Hibbert Neill Yobo Distin Baines Heitinga Rodwell Cahill Yakubu Saha F*ck knows who'd play where but I just can't bear to see Gosling's angelic little visage wasting a shirt again so they'll have to sort it out. Maybe we could try the example of the great old Aussie cricketer Keith Miller who when he was captain used to walk on the field and just tell his team to "scatter." We couldn't be any worse (though we could be in a spot of grief if Tim Howard decided he wanted to play up front for a change ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 If that's true and Pienaar is out then I'd put these eleven on the pitch. Howard Hibbert Neill Yobo Distin Baines Heitinga Rodwell Cahill Yakubu Saha F*ck knows who'd play where but I just can't bear to see Gosling's angelic little visage wasting a shirt again so they'll have to sort it out. Maybe we could try the example of the great old Aussie cricketer Keith Miller who when he was captain used to walk on the field and just tell his team to "scatter." We couldn't be any worse (though we could be in a spot of grief if Tim Howard decided he wanted to play up front for a change ). Easy... Howard Hibbert Yobo Distin Neill Cahill Heitinga Rodwell Baines Saha Yakubu Reminds me of the old Walter Smith days of playing six centre backs in the same team.... One thing to note, though, SEVEN of that team are full internationals, six of them current regulars for their country (and on current form, Saha arguably should be). If they can't beat Hull there's something seriously wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I never thought I'd be worried at the prospect of playing Hull . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemac92 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Feeling good, but someone has to stay strapped onto Bullard (Cahill preferably) or they could trouble us. 3-1 A brace from Saha and a flicky header from the Fro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Peanuts starts in a 442 Howard Niell Baines Distin Yobo Cahill Peanuts Rodders Johnny H Yak Saha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Peanuts starts in a 442 The devil now owns my soul for the next 999 years but it's worth it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Pepper Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) Feeling good, but someone has to stay strapped onto Bullard (Cahill preferably) or they could trouble us. 3-1 A brace from Saha and a flicky header from the Fro Fellaini cant play today cos of the 5 yellow cards he gained. Why is everybody worried about Bullard is he really that good?! 1-0 Saha. Edited November 25, 2009 by Sgt Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Where can I catch this match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillooley Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I'd drop Cahill in a flash if it's possible. What the hell ever happened to Cahill anyway? From hero to zero... does he miss Lescott or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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