pete0 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 By being a far better and all rounded player. Hibbert has grit and heart but his all round game is average He has nothing more in his locker then what I have already mentioned. There is a reason why Hibbert is not capped at International level and Richards and the mentioned players are and that being He is simply not good enough. He's not an all rounder though. He lacks in defensive ability, which out ranks attacking ability when your position is RB. Mills has England caps and there is no way he's better than Hibbert. Hibbert and Osman both lack caps as they play for Everton. Watson, Unsworth, and Barmby were overlooked alot because they played for us as well, just like Baines has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Baines has been included in the England set up for a few years the only reason He has not featured so much is that He's had one of Europes best left backs infront of him. I also don't think that in todays game it has had any hampering on their chances Internationally, Osman is not good enough either He shows very brief moments of magic but it's all few and far between and Hibbert as said is not good enough that is the reason they have not been picked nothing more. I'm not sure You've been watching the same Richards as I have as this season He's been top draw. As for defensive abilities Hibbert is shite positionally and reads most of the game very poorly He can read a last ditch tackle as good as anyone but other then that piss poor IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 this season Hibbo was always out of positioning because he was covering for Jags who had gone awol.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Baines has been included in the England set up for a few years the only reason He has not featured so much is that He's had one of Europes best left backs infront of him. I also don't think that in todays game it has had any hampering on their chances Internationally, Osman is not good enough either He shows very brief moments of magic but it's all few and far between and Hibbert as said is not good enough that is the reason they have not been picked nothing more. I'm not sure You've been watching the same Richards as I have as this season He's been top draw. As for defensive abilities Hibbert is shite positionally and reads most of the game very poorly He can read a last ditch tackle as good as anyone but other then that piss poor IMO Carragher and Johnson were the RBs for the last WC, Hibbert should have been on the plane. Warnock ahead of Baines. The likes of Milner, Barry and Carrick are no better than Osman. I seen Richards get accolades for his performance against Arsenal because he won a freekick(dived) that they scored from and was genrally bombing forward. People failed to mention he was at fault for nearly every chance Arsenal had, and was to blame for a goal or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 We will have to agree to disagree mate as We will end up here all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 We will have to agree to disagree mate as We will end up here all day What if I disagree to agree to disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 What if I disagree to agree to disagree? i dont agree with you disagreeing to disagree, but i agree youre entitled to disagree with agreeing to disagree. clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 What if I disagree to agree to disagree? Then you fight . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Easy win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 i dont agree with you disagreeing to disagree, but i agree youre entitled to disagree with agreeing to disagree. clear? *cockney accent* crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Brilliant story... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17460289 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Jocky Wilson died the other day, thought he could be worth a mention in his honor. The BBC made a mistake once when Dexys Midnight Runners played live in one famous event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 The BBC made a mistake once when Dexys Midnight Runners played live in one famous event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 In 1982 DMR appeared on Top Of The Pops and sang live their latest release 'Jackie Wilson says' The beauts at the bbc got it a bit wrong though, and on a big screen behind them, instead of the famous singer, was the Darts Player 'Jocky Wilson' It's something many people will remember. What do you expect from the BBC really. http://www.virginmedia.com/music/pictures/toptens/wrong-songs.php?ssid=8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 LIverpool... "They are like an old lush, sat in the corner telling the world how attractive and marvellous they are, utterly affronted when anyone blind to their natural beauty suggests otherwise. Friends, lovers and acquaintances nod enthusiastically each time the club attest to their own greatness, but neutrals and rivals think their better days have long since passed." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9166045/Liverpools-latest-disappointment-at-home-to-Wigan-highlights-Anfields-blindness-to-modern-failings.html Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 They were never the same after the Hillsborough tragedy, I remember watching the Arsenal game a few weeks later on the last day when the shite lost the title in the closing moments, and they were simply unable to raise their game sufficiently. In normal circumstances they would simply have won the double that year, but the events of Sheffield simply played a determining factor. Add to that no League Titles since 1990, they've only been runners up about once or twice since then too. The Anfield machine of what we remember has since fallen into disrepair, they are mostly dependant on cup successes now, as they realize that the League title is simply not a viable option to them anymore. They have to face facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 hes not a patch on Richards. I wouldnt go as far to say he shouldve been in the England team but to say hes mediocre is harsh in my opinion. How is it mediocre? he can't pass the ball, can't run with it, dives into tackles far too hastely imo at times, gives the ball away far more than any other player in the squad, he has played better this season, but overall he is a championship player at best, ive been saying this for years, im glad someone else actually agrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 maybe it says enough that it's taken years to find someone else who agrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 maybe it says enough that it's taken years to find someone else who agrees That Everton fans will put up with a lot more from one of their own, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 That Everton fans will put up with a lot more from one of their own, yeah. And we do put up with rather a lot at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 not just the fact we put up with more from our own...the fact that the lad tries 110% every game...he isn't a world beater and he knows it...we know it...but to call him mediocre is criminal in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) not just the fact we put up with more from our own...the fact that the lad tries 110% every game...he isn't a world beater and he knows it...we know it...but to call him mediocre is criminal in my eyes nail. head. hit. Edited March 29, 2012 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 New record as I understand it for biggest soccer defeat in history by all accounts happened recently- 'Wheel Power FC' (?) Beat Nova 2010 58 - 0 in a sunday league fixture just the other day. The Torbay Sunday League leaders thrashed Devon rivals Nova 2010 FC 58-0 – believed to be the heaviest defeat in British history. After conceding 20 in the first 45 minutes, it was all about damage limitation for Nova in the second half. It did not go to plan. The amateur league’s second-bottom side let in another 38, with brothers Robbie and Stuart Bowker scoring 28 times between them. ‘At 50-0, they’d had enough but the referee told them they must carry on playing or they would risk being fined,’ 21-year-old Stuart explained. Nova veteran Lewis Parker, 60, added: ‘A lot of the players didn’t turn up so we expected to lose but not by that much.’ Cornish side Illogan’s 55-0 thrashing of Madron FC in 2010 is thought to be the previous record. Wheel Power beat bottom club Applebys 30-0 and 27-0 earlier in the season, helping them notch up 167 goals from 15 games – and leaving little doubt as to which team has the upper hand if the title comes down to goal difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 New record as I understand it for biggest soccer defeat in history by all accounts happened recently- 'Wheel Power FC' (?) Beat Nova 2010 58 - 0 in a sunday league fixture just the other day. The Torbay Sunday League leaders thrashed Devon rivals Nova 2010 FC 58-0 – believed to be the heaviest defeat in British history. After conceding 20 in the first 45 minutes, it was all about damage limitation for Nova in the second half. It did not go to plan. The amateur league’s second-bottom side let in another 38, with brothers Robbie and Stuart Bowker scoring 28 times between them. ‘At 50-0, they’d had enough but the referee told them they must carry on playing or they would risk being fined,’ 21-year-old Stuart explained. Nova veteran Lewis Parker, 60, added: ‘A lot of the players didn’t turn up so we expected to lose but not by that much.’ Cornish side Illogan’s 55-0 thrashing of Madron FC in 2010 is thought to be the previous record. Wheel Power beat bottom club Applebys 30-0 and 27-0 earlier in the season, helping them notch up 167 goals from 15 games – and leaving little doubt as to which team has the upper hand if the title comes down to goal difference. Surely you can't be that bad?! I'm pretty confident that I could put together 11 players and not get beaten 58-0 by Barcelona... yeah I know, huge call but I'm willing to prove this if anyone can sort it out?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Former icon Southall charges extortionate prices for goalkeeping pointers. £50-00 per E-mail, come on Mr Southall, that's a bit harsh. He goes on - 'I can't be everywhere at the same time' If Mr Southall ges any bigger, that may well be the case.. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/893799-neville-southall-offers-one-hour-phone-call-on-advice-website-for-99-a-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Former icon Southall charges extortionate prices for goalkeeping pointers. £50-00 per E-mail, come on Mr Southall, that's a bit harsh. He goes on - 'I can't be everywhere at the same time' If Mr Southall ges any bigger, that may well be the case.. http://www.metro.co....e-for-99-a-time Fair play to him, you try living off a bin man's pension! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Surely you can't be that bad?! I'm pretty confident that I could put together 11 players and not get beaten 58-0 by Barcelona... Possibly not a team of sixty-year olds though eh ? (Don't know if all of Nova's team were sixty, but at least one was) http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/22/article-2118755-12492086000005DC-781_634x369.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 They're not bottom of the league though....won four games this season , http://www.leaguewebsite.co.uk/torbaysundayleague/Divisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Surely you can't be that bad?! I'm pretty confident that I could put together 11 players and not get beaten 58-0 by Barcelona... yeah I know, huge call but I'm willing to prove this if anyone can sort it out?! as long as i can man mark busquets i'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'll take that Messi ponce . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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