Kohen Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 http://www.kickitout.org/news.php/news_id/5042 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Controversial case.. because he's calling someone French who is French but the word French was included as part of the insult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Partington Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I was about to come on here and tare this thread apart, I thought it was going to be a serious case of someone over hearing racism at Goodison Park, something in which I've experienced in the past and have been disgusted by. However, this is laughable! What is the difference between this and someone calling Wayne Rooney an 'Ugly Bastard'? None at all in my opinion and whoever the Everton fan is that went to the effort of reporting this needs a to have a day off. There is no room in modern day football for racism of any kind. In fact, there's no room for it anywhere. However, people need to man the fuck up. I'm disgusted at the other guy for reporting him. If you think Saha wasn't pulling his weight after you've paid £35 of your own cash to watch him, you've got the right to let him know he's lazy. Granted, the bloke didn't need to mention his nationality, just like people don't need to mention a players weight or their nose shape when bombarding them with abuse on the pitch. But who cares if he called a Frenchman a Frenchman. I doubt even Louis Saha really would give two shits. He's be more bothered about his attitude & effort being questioned. The words gone crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 With Adam really.."French" is used as an adjective....could as easily be fat or ugly and no-one would have batted an eyelid. If he'd have said "...you're a useless lazy bastard like all Frenchmen..." then it would be different. Ridiculous imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 isn't it racist to think that calling someone French would be racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 isn't it racist to think that calling someone French would be racist? The defence rests . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I wonder, if the court decision goes in his favour will he be given his season ticket back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Its crazy this hes called him French so we know who hes talking about! If he said you lazy bastard it couldve been aimed at anyone! He said French not as a racist comment but to explain who he was moaning at! Absolutely crazy! Its like me being done for calling a lad in work Phil the Manc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Partington Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Exactly, when I lived down in London I'd constantly get shit about being 'Northern'. When I was out with the boys there would always be comments that went along the lines of 'Northener Basrtard' etc. Personally I can't see the difference? It's just highlighting what part of the country I'm from. Ok, it wasn't directed at me in a malicious way (majority of the time) but still, there was no need for me to get my bollox in a twist. I'm sure if this would have happened in the 80's (and you'd have gone to the effort of reporting something like this) the Steward/Bizzie would have laughed in your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I better not call Cahill an Aussie Legend at the next match then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 With Adam really.."French" is used as an adjective....could as easily be fat or ugly and no-one would have batted an eyelid. If he'd have said "...you're a useless lazy bastard like all Frenchmen..." then it would be different. Ridiculous imo. personally I'm not so sure, if he had've called Saha a 'black lazy b******' then I think everyone would recognise that was racist, I think French is probably being used as part of the insult which makes it xenophobic. He could have just said - 'Oi, Saha, you lazy b******' he didn't need to include French in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Is it racist to be called a Scouse Bastard? What if I was acalled an Old Fat Scouse Bastard? I cant deny any of it really. Be good if I could. If that is so I could be getting a fortune through the courts. This is just a bloody joke IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think French is probably being used as part of the insult which makes it xenophobic. I agree. I think it was used in a pejorative sense, which probably makes it unacceptable in today's climate. Now, how many people think it during the course of the game, or mutter it under their breath, is another thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) I really am starting to struggle with the overly pc society we have created for ourselves to live in. The fact that we are splitting hairs over technicalities says it all. Does anyone remember this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOeECLBH-K8 Poor ray Wilkins, I've gone and got him done now! Edited March 9, 2011 by Hafnia2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 what a prick the guy who reported him is...fuck me...the way he used the word french is offensive? have a word..it's a joke and just shows how many cunts there are in this world who want to get others into trouble..the other guy needs his wrapped around the post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) I guess the only people who can't be discriminated against are heterosexual, White, English males who are able bodied who don't smoke. I'm all for diversity and inclusion but certain rulings need to be made right. Fathers day cards being banned in Scotland for fear of upsetting single mothers? Winterval in Birmingham to replace Christmas? Creating a massive rod for our own backs. Edited March 9, 2011 by Hafnia2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Incidently whilst enjoying a lazy day off work just seen some lady on "this morning" encouraging women to seek married men for affairs. Used a phrase "well trained", blimey gray and keys must be livid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 women are allowed to talk shit though cos if anyone challenges it they are ignorant and sexist..like them old bats on loose women..they get fellas on and ogle over them etc etc but if blokes did that durin the day then they'd be booted off tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Soccer AM? At time of writing, the Alpen advert has just come on with all the women in tight clothing stretching.. then it switches to men doing similar because it'd be sexist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Incidently whilst enjoying a lazy day off work just seen some lady on "this morning" encouraging women to seek married men for affairs. Do divorced men count?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Do divorced men count?? No cos they've got baggage and married men are well trained... You couldn't make it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Apparently he has been banned for three years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Wow! I feel bad for the geezer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 first time ive seen this. So we are saying stereotypes are racist too? This is absolutely stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Well i hope that this means next time the away fans start singing about scouse bastards everyone of them gets arrested and banned! Sounds stupid doesnt it just like what happened to this bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 first time ive seen this. So we are saying stereotypes are racist too? This is absolutely stupid. Well Matt, we don't know for sure. One of the local papers suggested he said worse than what was being reported, the nationals picked up on the "French" line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 £400 fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexKing Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Wow. You have founded a new human race over there. Didnt know you have a race of french... An Everton official said: "It's not simply a black or white matter. We'll stamp down very hard on racial abuse of any kind." This is just so laughable. I hate rasism, but just cant find rasism from shouts like this. If he would shout like fookin french monkey or something else really stupid, it would been totally different. Im sure that this idiot who reported him, had something else wrong with him that now lost seasonticket, prolly they have had some arguement and this reporting was just a stupid way to revenge and get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 If you trawl through archives of football reports I am sure you will find comments such as '..The Frenchman/ Dutchman/ Spaniard/ African appeared to show a lazy attitude......' or something on similar lines. Is this any different to what the guy is alleged to have said? If he has been banned for what has been reported then the whole of the ground needs to be on its guard in future because believe me I hear a lot worse than this every game without it overstepping the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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