duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/fans-view/2012/oct/19/fans-view-everton-fans-conference-2012 Bailey and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Cheers for that, Dunc. Great to hear we're moving away from a retail-led stadium plan! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Very interesting and there was some good stuff in there, especially with what Elstone said. I do think he is a very genuine bloke and he gave some pretty honest answers, which isnt what you would normally expect to see from people in his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Cheers for that, Dunc. Great to hear we're moving away from a retail-led stadium plan! What have we've moved from a retail-led plan to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 What have we've moved from a retail-led plan to ? As it doesn't say I couldn't tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Very interesting and there was some good stuff in there, especially with what Elstone said. I do think he is a very genuine bloke and he gave some pretty honest answers, which isnt what you would normally expect to see from people in his position. he reminds me of Tony Blair - all smiles, nice ideas and sound bites but all seems to be to placate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 He said AGMs are still banned because Kenwright and the board are still upset over the last time AGMs were held and ´proxies´ tried to disrupt things by asking for repeated EGMs. He said matters weren´t help by Kenwright feeling he was betrayed by all the Blue Union stuff last season. A return of AGMs is not imminent. Read more: http://www.grandoldteam.com/news/fans-view/2012/oct/19/fans-view-everton-fans-conference-2012#ixzz2A1dAsLnw It is fair to say that one of the reasons fans became disgruntled was the banning of AGM's - so that is a chicken and egg situation there. I respect the fact that they are sharing information with fans, however AGM's are a must and the lack of can't be excused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 It is fair to say that one of the reasons fans became disgruntled was the banning of AGM's - so that is a chicken and egg situation there. I respect the fact that they are sharing information with fans, however AGM's are a must and the lack of can't be excused. Why so the same people can ask the same questions again? Sounds pretty pointless to me. The fans conference is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Why so the same people can ask the same questions again? Sounds pretty pointless to me. The fans conference is good enough. The questions aren't answered deserve to be repeated. Or certainly the reason for an answer not being given must be shared to cease suspicion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 The questions aren't answered deserve to be repeated. Or certainly the reason for an answer not being given must be shared to cease suspicion. Have you not read any BU crap? It will be the same old nonsense eg. How much is the club valued at? Where's the money Bill? We already get more information than most clubs/businesses are willing to expose. Personally other than the plans for a new stadium I don't see what else fans would want to know. What is it you want to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 The questions aren't answered deserve to be repeated. Or certainly the reason for an answer not being given must be shared to cease suspicion. Lol Here we go again, What is the asking price Bill ? What bids have you turned down Bill? Why have prospective takeovers fallen through, we dont care about the confidentiality agreements? What's Jennies favourite position ? Answer ...... None of your bloody business !!!! ... and we go around and around again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I had a look at the above link and it said 'There was free scouse for everyone (and beer)'. I didn't quite understand that, unless local supporters were allowed into the event free of charge ? I agree also with an above response that Annual General Meetings are necessary and give a platform to supporters and with relevant people in attendance. Damn annoying for fans though that you can't always get the answers you seek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I had a look at the above link and it said 'There was free scouse for everyone (and beer)'. I didn't quite understand that, unless local supporters were allowed into the event free of charge ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouse_(food) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I never knew that and hence why I asked. It says short for 'lobscouse' who incidentally was a recent new participant. I saw the name before and wondered what that was about. I thought initially it was reference to a Mersey-born player taking a shot from distance. Had no idea it was a reference to food stuffs. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wasn't aware that the blue union ran the AGM's, none the less there's thousands of other questions that can be asked and answers given favourable and unfavourable. Are we still on the "how much are we for sale for?" That would be an interesting and vital piece of information - NDA's can protect interested parties but yes an idea as to whether we can hold our breath for a sale or whether a £250m asking price is the problem. The problem isn't the questions that would be asked, it's the clear intention to avoid Taft is a problem. Shareholders have the right to have a voice, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Don't know if you're actually serious about the valuation being need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 AGM's were banned long before the Blue Union even existed weren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 AGM's were banned long before the Blue Union even existed weren't they? The BU is a collection of the same repetitive idiots KEITC ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 KEIOC were well onto our board who tried to get us to move to a shed on the outskirts of town. They have proposed viable alternatives, exposed transport issues etc etc - idiots??? I think they exposed the idiots. It's unfortunate that the club has frustrated fans to the extent that they have made groups to oppose their decisions, but it is what it is. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted October 22, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 The BU is a collection of the same repetitive idiots KEITC ect. The BU have a big idiot following but I think it's unfair to call KEIOC idiots. They did a good thing for this club and they did it all in the right way. StevO, Hafnia, Lowensda and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Shareholders have the right to have a voice, simple as that. This. The BU have a big idiot following but I think it's unfair to call KEIOC idiots. They did a good thing for this club and they did it all in the right way. I agree. I think KEIOC were a small group and therefore easier to organise and be more directive. When they joined up as part of the BU the band wagon effect seems to bring a bit more negativity and less direction. I suppose five voices asking three or four questions is easier to control than 100 shouting one question. Edited October 22, 2012 by StevO Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I was very much against KEOIC when they first came to the fore but after reading all the information they provided they highlighted just how stupid the planned move was. Their articles are far better than a lot of the other crap these groups come out with, and its a shame they are associated with BU imo. Hafnia and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hopefully the good work KEIOC have done wont be lost in the negativity around the BU. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I have to admit I do have a degree of empathy and used to have maybe still have a little bit of respect for them however I cant take them seriously while they are associated with the Buffoon Union They have done some exceptional work with the football quarter but then go and associate themselves with the "Whats the price Bill ? " throbbers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 If they want to keep their respected work and views, KEOIC need to detach themselves away from the BU. As some have said, you get a small minority of pigheaded, tunnel visioned idiots who believe everything they're 'fed'. For KEOIC's sake, they need to detach and regroup, keep doing the good work they started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 i'm still startled that DK made a funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 i'm still startled that DK made a funny I'm more startled that someone reads past the first sentence of a DK post . Bailey and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'm more startled that someone reads past the first sentence of a DK post . I was thinking the same thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 mike read a whole post of his and quoted some before..so he's just bein a bastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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