StevO Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt said: apparently with one of the writers behind it. Not watched it yet though. Is this the podcast Dyche listens to before he picks the team? Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 14:53, London Blue said: Hope you're both better soon. We’re not too bad thanks, my wife is now negative, I’ll test tomorrow, I still feel I have it, neither have felt awful though thankfully. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12646155/Everton-Premier-League-meet-SECRET-begin-clubs-disciplinary-hearing-alleged-Financial-Fair-Play-breaches-closed-doors-process-set-conclude-week.html StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 18, 2023 Report Share Posted October 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12646155/Everton-Premier-League-meet-SECRET-begin-clubs-disciplinary-hearing-alleged-Financial-Fair-Play-breaches-closed-doors-process-set-conclude-week.html Everton met the premier league? The hearing is with an independent body. It’s began in secret? The dates have been public knowledge for ages. This man is an absolute disgrace to journalism and has been dining out on Evertonians for way too long. Absolute clickbait merchant abusing fans with article after article of made up shit because he knows we’ll all read it. Massive cunt! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 It’s not in secret. I already know they are meeting. Read in an article above. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 19, 2023 Report Share Posted October 19, 2023 8 hours ago, StevO said: Everton met the premier league? The hearing is with an independent body. It’s began in secret? The dates have been public knowledge for ages. This man is an absolute disgrace to journalism and has been dining out on Evertonians for way too long. Absolute clickbait merchant abusing fans with article after article of made up shit because he knows we’ll all read it. Massive cunt! I just saw Daily Mail and instantly knew to avoid it. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 Talk in the press today is that the Premier League will be looking for a 12 point deduction if we are found guilty of breaches of FFP. I would guess that would make it very very difficult for a club in our position to avoid relegation. Bit worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: Talk in the press today is that the Premier League will be looking for a 12 point deduction if we are found guilty of breaches of FFP. I would guess that would make it very very difficult for a club in our position to avoid relegation. Bit worrying. It's a load of nonsense, so don't worry. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, RuffRob said: Talk in the press today is that the Premier League will be looking for a 12 point deduction if we are found guilty of breaches of FFP. I would guess that would make it very very difficult for a club in our position to avoid relegation. Bit worrying. I'd still bet on us staying up even if that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 hours ago, RuffRob said: Talk in the press today is that the Premier League will be looking for a 12 point deduction if we are found guilty of breaches of FFP. I would guess that would make it very very difficult for a club in our position to avoid relegation. Bit worrying. It’s not up to the premier league. They are the ones who have instructed us on transfers. If we are found guilty… then so are they. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Shukes said: It’s not up to the premier league. They are the ones who have instructed us on transfers. If we are found guilty… then so are I would have thought that should be the situation. As long as we didn't hide or miss represent anything to them about our finances during discussions with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 In worse case scenario I would hope our lawyers are arguing in strong terms the fact that the Citeh case has not been resolved after how long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Shukes said: It’s not up to the premier league. They are the ones who have instructed us on transfers. If we are found guilty… then so are they. Logically speaking, yes. Realistically speaking, not a chance. Even if they were found guilty, so what? A small fine vs whilst they bring in billions. They have very little to lose either way, we potentially risk losing our league status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 12 points is the maximum, and now it’s being pushed as a recommendation? Nothing but click bait. Why would the Premier League refer us to an independent investigation, to then go and recommend the punishment to be handed out be the maximum allowed. That’s hardly independent if they are advising them what to do. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Shukes said: It’s not up to the premier league. They are the ones who have instructed us on transfers. If we are found guilty… then so are they. That was a statement that was made by the club that we were following guidelines given to us by the PL, and we were in constant communication with them on what we were doing, that statement was never confirmed by the PL. It would be very strange for the PL to have us investigated FFP rules if they were constantly monitoring what we were doing under their close scrutiny, unless of course other clubs made formal complaints about our finances and the PL had no option other than to have us investigated to appease those who had lodged a complaint. Or that we hadn’t been forthright and upfront with the information we had been giving to the PL about our financial situation and they found out. Of course it’s only speculation and it shouldn’t hopefully belong before we get the definitive answer to what we have been found guilty of if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, StevO said: 12 points is the maximum, and now it’s being pushed as a recommendation? Nothing but click bait. Why would the Premier League refer us to an independent investigation, to then go and recommend the punishment to be handed out be the maximum allowed. That’s hardly independent if they are advising them what to do. Especially when you consider you only get 9 points for going into administration. Which is a much bigger fuck up. If we’re even found guilty I think it’ll be a fine, of which some will be suspended. StevO and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Palfy said: That was a statement that was made by the club that we were following guidelines given to us by the PL, and we were in constant communication with them on what we were doing, that statement was never confirmed by the PL. It would be very strange for the PL to have us investigated FFP rules if they were constantly monitoring what we were doing under their close scrutiny, unless of course other clubs made formal complaints about our finances and the PL had no option other than to have us investigated to appease those who had lodged a complaint. Or that we hadn’t been forthright and upfront with the information we had been giving to the PL about our financial situation and they found out. Of course it’s only speculation and it shouldn’t hopefully belong before we get the definitive answer to what we have been found guilty of if anything. Wasn’t just our statement mate, it was reported 12 months before in the media. I agree it would be very strange. That’s why I’m pretty sure it is just click bait and not true. But I could be wrong… time will reveal all Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 When we're found innocent, I'd love to see us sue the league for defamation of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: When we're found innocent, I'd love to see us sue the league for defamation of something. That’s when they will come out saying how they have always been 100% behind us and gave us their full support and backing. Bloody heroes the FA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, Shukes said: That’s when they will come out saying how they have always been 100% behind us and gave us their full support and backing. Bloody heroes the FA! Where do the FA come into it? I thought it was the PL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt said: When we're found innocent, I'd love to see us sue the league for defamation of something. As if we've got the balls for that. We never make a fuss about anything and that's why we get these bullshit stories in the media all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 The original story eminates from the Telegraph newspaper - so I give it more kudos than general click bait. I would guess that somebody from the PL has leak it to the journalists who wrote the artical. Everywhere else is simply recycling this article. After years of grumplings and nothing happening, are we going to be the team finally made an example of with FFP? Possibly - it would just be our luck. The timing of it with us at the beginning of financing a new stadium project and team in a poor condition is at the worst time possible. Yes, there has been some bad decisions at the club, but financially we have be clobbered and batter by massive variable that the club could no way have forseen - a global pandemic, a war in Ukraine that by law has resulted in our main sponser (an maybe long term owner) having to almost overnight pull away from the club, which is immediately followed by a cost of living crisis (where cost of building materials has sky rocketed just as we build a stadium). A 12 point deduction (which would most likley see us relegated) would simply be like somebody putting an almighty boot in to this club, and exactely at a point in time when it can least afford it. Another massive financial kicking to add to those listed above. Has the club really been that 'naughty' that it deserves this additional kicking that could actually send Everton in to administation? We had two or three seasons where we attempted to better ourselves to be more competative - then the world went to shit on us. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 We won't get a 12 point points deduction. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 12 points seems very harsh. But it does point to some sort of points deduction. is there an appeals process, which means we drag it out beyond this year?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: 12 points seems very harsh. But it does point to some sort of points deduction. is there an appeals process, which means we drag it out beyond this year?? What it points to is that the PL is trying to show they have teeth by making this recommendation, but we still won't face any points deduction if we're found guilty. I'd bet a lot of money on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: As if we've got the balls for that. We never make a fuss about anything and that's why we get these bullshit stories in the media all the time. 777 might. Its going to be their brand they're dragging through the mud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Just now, Matt said: 777 might. Its going to be their brand they're dragging through the mud. Their 'brand' is being dragged through the mud constantly as it is. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Their 'brand' is being dragged through the mud constantly as it is. True Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 25/10/2023 at 20:22, Shukes said: It’s not up to the premier league. They are the ones who have instructed us on transfers. If we are found guilty… then so are they. From what I’ve heard / read its nothing to do with transfers, it’s to something to do with tax paid on loans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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