Matt Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) We deserved more from that. Can't argue about the Can overhead kick, his eyes were always on the ball and credit to Barry for his bravery. Lucas should've gone, but hey! Derby + Atkinson = no chance. Very harsh to blame Barkley for their goal for me. He should've done better, despite the little nudge, but that ball should've been Howards all day long. His only mistake all game mind you. I'm a little pissed off at Martinez though. Geri looked the same ignored figure as Monday night, standing in acres of space screaming for the ball. When he finally got it, he tried too hard. Taking him off first instead of Naismith was stupid, Lennon on for Naisy and Geri on the other wing against a booked Can was begging for attacking with pace. But no. Rom was exceptional, but we still have the same issue where is he completely isolated for most of the game, the same thing a lot of us have been banging on a bout for over a season now. Fair play to him for putting in a shift and leading the line, but we are so desperate for that #10 it's unbelievable. Overall, sick at the result. Should've been 3 points. Edited October 5, 2015 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I thought it was a very weird game tbh. Because, while I didn't think we played all that well, particularly in the first half, and they probably showed more quality in their play throughout the game, I felt that we had the better chances in the game and I came away disappointed to only get a point. I spent much of the first half just feeling anxious. Part of that was simply down to it being the Derby, but most of it was because we were giving them far too much time on the ball. We just let them have it and dictate play instead of getting close to them. In comparison, as soon as we got the ball they were on us straight away, putting us under pressure, and we gave the ball away a lot. The shite were incredible off the ball; their work rate was far superior to our own. Our young full-backs were targeted to great effect (our wide midfielders did a crappy job of protecting them as well), and they got round the back of us time after time. Fortunately we often recovered and blocked the majority of balls that were getting played into the box. But this led to us conceding a fair few corners, which had me worried as we are shocking at defending corners. I was right to be worried because we conceded the goal from one of these corners, and it was pretty much a carbon copy of the second goal by WBA, which is the most disappointing aspect of the goal. Up until that point our good defensive recoveries had meant that we'd actually had the best chances in the game - the Naismith header and McCarthy pile driver were both stopped with great saves. Why couldn't Mignolet have carried on being shit?! It looked like we were going to go in at half-time behind but Deulofeu finally remembered he can put a wicked ball into the box and it caused havoc in their poor defence - Lukaku was lucky the ball fell to him but there was nothing lucky about his finish, it was instinctual and a peach. In the second half we were better in our play but it was more a case of us doing a lot of huffing and puffing, without creating much. And we ran out of ideas fairly quickly, and we started to look extremely tired. I felt at that point that if any side was going to get a winner it'd be the shite, but that it was more likely that the game would just peter out into a draw. We were resorting to just punting the ball up the pitch by then, and Lukaku was absolutely fucked and even if he did manage to get on the end of those balls there was rarely anyone around him to help him out. However, right at the very end of the game we found a second wind and it was us that were really pushing for a winner. There was so many occasions that left with me with my hands on my head. Sadly, we just couldn't get that golden opportunity and it was mostly a case of half chances and we only took a point. All in all, it wasn't a Derby that was blessed with quality but a point for us still leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Howard - Martinez goes on about how Howard's experience is vital and is why he's happy for him to be our number one for years yet. Well, yesterday showed how Howard is an experienced idiot and we as fans are experienced at his concrete feet costing us goals. Once again his inability to get off his line and command his area meant we conceded a goal. FFS, it wasn't like the ball was only in his 18 yard box, it was the 6 yard box! He should be all over that, the clown. All it needed to complete the image was one of his idiotic star jumps. Oh, and could he maybe stop giving our players the ball when they're going to be instantly pressurised seeing as he can see the whole fucking pitch in front of him?! Browning - I'm really struggling to be impressed with anything he does in all honesty. His performance, again, was very meh. As bad as Geri was, this lad didn't help his cause whatsoever by often taking an age to pass him the ball, and often only when Geri was in an impossible situation. I'm not sure he has the footballing brain to work with a proper winger in front of him. I suppose he was ok when it came to defending. I've been a critic of Coleman but I cannot wait to have him back. Jagielka - Superb showing from him. A captains performance back there when we were getting put under immense pressure during the first half. He was over helping Browning whenever the shite got round the back of us, throwing himself in the way of crosses and blocking them. Funes Mori - I thought he maybe punted the ball long a bit too often but that was probably down to him just keeping it simple in such a big game, and the shite working extremely hard off the ball meant he was often under pressure when in possession. His defending though was brilliant throughout the game - he helped Galloway out by blocking crosses, and his aerial ability was on show. There weren't many headers he didn't win and that was invaluable to us. He certainly hasn't let the blunder against WBA get him down. We definitely have more than a squad player in him - if ever Jags or Stones have a dip in form I'd have no problem with him being first choice for weeks or months at a time. Galloway - This lad is quite player isn't he? Playing in his first Derby at such a young age could have fazed him but going by the performance he put in that wasn't even close to being the case. He took it all in his stride and showed that with each game he's getting better and better. He had a lot of defensive work to do during the first half due to the non-existent protection in front of him but he kept his cool and did everything within his power to make sure he wouldn't be responsible for any goals conceded. His defending is so good, I can't wait to see him at CB whenever the opportunity comes his way. I think he'll go from strength to strength. He is limited in attack but he really had a good go and tried to make himself available as often as possible. I loved it when he got properly into the Derby spirit when he stood up for Barkley and got right in Emre Can(t)'s face. Deulofeu - It was just one of those days for Geri yesterday. A very frustrating one; for him and us. Whenever he got the ball he tried to do too much with it and mostly fucked it up and lost the ball. I was a bit baffled that this was his game plan tbh; against WBA he had so much success because he got the ball into the box as early as possible. So I'm not sure why he wanted to fanny about with the ball. It was no coincidence that the one time he didn't try the fancy step overs and actually got the ball into the box that it led to us equalising! That being said his disappointing game wasn't all of his own doing, the way we played really didn't help him. We either didn't get the ball to him at all when he was in acres of space, or we moved the ball so slowly from one side of the pitch that by the time we got the ball to him he had two red shite players within a metre of him. McCarthy - Did an excellent shut down job of shutting Coutinho down completely. He was like his shadow for the day, snapping at him whenever he received the ball. I did feel like this left us a little light in the middle but Martinez obviously felt that we could cope with whatever they threw at us despite only having one constant shield in front of the defence. Barry - He was left a little exposed at times, and the shite did pressure him as soon as he received the ball, but I thought he generally coped well with the attention and more often than not found a way to wriggle free or win a free kick. Naismith - Another game where I really appreciated his hard work and getting under the skin of their players, but he really struggled to actually add anything to our play. With him being so good in the air he probably should have done better with his chance in the first half too. Barkley - On the ball he was superb again. Every time he got the ball I thought something could happen - he'd draw two or three of their players onto him as soon as he received the ball, which shows just how much of a threat they perceived him to be. Where we shut Coutinho down, they couldn't shut Ross down, he just accepted it and mostly managed to escape their attentions with his strength and skill, or won a free kick. Off the ball he really did wind me up though. He played a big part in us conceding the goal, again, and once again showed very little work rate when we didn't have the ball. He really needs to improve that aspect of his game. Lukaku - He was absolutely unplayable for 80 minutes. He didn't have a hell of a lot of support but he worked his arse off up there. He won a decent number of headers but due to a lack of support we often couldn't take advantage of it. What I was most impressed with was just how much he bullied both of their CB's. He bulldozed them and they were absolutely terrified of him. And I mean that literally. It got to the point that whenever the ball went near him they were resorting to trying to manhandle him out of the game. And with Twatkinson giving him very little protection he was left to have to fight them, and fight them he did, coming out the winner 9 times out of 10. They'll have both known they were in a game when they woke up this morning. His goal was taken brilliantly too; the ball falls to him and bang, it's in the back of the net. In the last 10 minutes of the game he was unsurprisingly running on fumes, but it's not like he coasted through the rest of the game like his job was done; he kept at it and at them as much as he could. That was one of the best performances he's ever put in for us. My MOTM. Blue 250, Matt, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) I reckon that Rodgers knew he was getting the boot afterwards and so he just played for the draw in the second half, so he could preserve his unbeaten Derby record and make it as uncomfortable as possible for FSG to get rid of him. Edited October 5, 2015 by badaids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2015/10/06/blues-praise-derby-fans Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2015/10/06/blues-praise-derby-fans Really good to see, and that's how it should be. Best fans in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2015/10/06/blues-praise-derby-fans Really happy to read this. Good on everyone for treating opposing fans properly. I am passionate about Everton, but that is no excuse to abuse fans who've made an unfortunate decision to support Liverpool. As an aside, American football stadiums are cesspools of abuse for opposing fans. I've been to the Washington, DC area team's stadium a couple of times and I will never go again because of the abuse that was directed towards opposing fans. The fans in Philadelphia are known to have thrown batteries at opposing players on the field, though that was several years ago. We should encourage respectful competition, but not encourage fighting, abuse, and those sorts of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Really happy to read this. Good on everyone for treating opposing fans properly. I am passionate about Everton, but that is no excuse to abuse fans who've made an unfortunate decision to support Liverpool. As an aside, American football stadiums are cesspools of abuse for opposing fans. I've been to the Washington, DC area team's stadium a couple of times and I will never go again because of the abuse that was directed towards opposing fans. The fans in Philadelphia are known to have thrown batteries at opposing players on the field, though that was several years ago. We should encourage respectful competition, but not encourage fighting, abuse, and those sorts of things. I share that sentiment with you, Keith. I remember going to college football games and hearing a slew of racial slurs -- granted, it's always just a couple of people and unfair to label the entire atmosphere that way, but I'm still shocked to hear stuff like that at an education institution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2015/10/06/blues-praise-derby-fans Good stuff, however I absolutely despise those half and half scarves, especially if it has the Shite on it I don't own anything with even a speck of red in it so really don't understand it Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Really happy to read this. Good on everyone for treating opposing fans properly. I am passionate about Everton, but that is no excuse to abuse fans who've made an unfortunate decision to support Liverpool. As an aside, American football stadiums are cesspools of abuse for opposing fans. I've been to the Washington, DC area team's stadium a couple of times and I will never go again because of the abuse that was directed towards opposing fans. The fans in Philadelphia are known to have thrown batteries at opposing players on the field, though that was several years ago. We should encourage respectful competition, but not encourage fighting, abuse, and those sorts of things. It is immature and existed here in the 1970's too. maybe not Batteries but as far as I am aware it started off with darts DO not click on the link if you have a slightly weak constitution. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLsEpUUCEAA2re0.jpg Anyway that is now thankfully in the past. Incidentally the victim on that link is a Man Utd supporter who was caught by a dart thrown by a Liverpool supporter. Edited October 10, 2015 by Rubecula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Good stuff, however I absolutely despise those half and half scarves, especially if it has the Shite on it I don't own anything with even a speck of red in it so really don't understand it Fully agree, half and half scarves with that lot are just wrong. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Fully agree, half and half scarves with that lot are just wrong. This one (and the shirt) was acceptable, beyond that I agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 This one (and the shirt) was acceptable, beyond that I agree... Oh I don't mind them with other clubs, but the shite? No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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