Chach Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) *allegedly I had that in there, Bill photoshopped it out. Edited June 16, 2017 by Chach holystove, MikeO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Show me any footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. This building is one of the most protected in the States, it has hundreds CCTV cameras every 25 yards of the perimeter, but the government has not issued any video footage at all, probably because there is none. Suppose I'm being a bit pedantic here, but if you think that pilots, pathologists, scientists, and engineers are all telling lies, and accusing the government of underhand and dodgy dealings, why has none of them ever been arrested and dealt with.?? This is a brilliant subject to gauge people's thinking. Edited June 16, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Show me any footage of a plane hitting the pentagon. This building is one of the most protected in the States, it has hundreds CCTV cameras every 25 yards of the perimeter, but the government has not issued any video footage at all, probably because there is none. Suppose I'm being a bit pedantic here, but if you think that pilots, pathologists, scientists, and engineers are all telling lies, and accusing the government of underhand and dodgy dealings, why has none of them ever been arrested and dealt with.?? This is a brilliant subject to gauge people's thinking. CCTV quality is designed for things travelling slightly slower than 350 miles per hour William, there's 136 eyewitnesses that saw the plane come in and hit the building MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I agree with TonkaRoost, if it was a conspiracy there would have to have been hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved. Someone would have leaked it by now. There are also You tube videos proving that the eath is flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) The only footage of an explosion at the pentagon is from a filling station across the way, just an outward blast from the outer wall, no plane in sight. Would have thought that if a plane hit a wall you wouldn't see an outward blast. Edited June 16, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 CCTV quality is designed for things travelling slightly slower than 350 miles per hour William, there's 136 eyewitnesses that saw the plane come in and hit the building QED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I keep saying show me the footage of any plane, now show me the witness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I keep saying show me the footage of any plane, now show me the witness. http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/sgydk.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Well I'll dismiss that right away Mike, compiled by "someguyyoudontknow" !!, that sounds very official doesn't it. Thats a Joke surely. Edited June 16, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Well I'll dismiss that right away Mike, compiled by "someguyyoudontknow" !!, that sounds very official doesn't it. Thats a Joke surely. No Bill, the bollocks you believe is the joke imo . Well it would be but we're talking about people being murdered so not a lot of humour to be found. Here's another with a name on it if you want a source... http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/bart.html And if we're talking sources who of any intellectual scientific note agrees with your view? Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 All fun and games when its a bit of banter on a football forum, but here's the President of the US with a man who said the *Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax in order to enact gun control, discussing among other things how the US should have taken Iraq's oil because "to the victor go the spoils" Edit: for those not familiar with the Sandy Hook massacre a mentally ill man shot 20 children between the age of 6 and 7 and 6 teachers, I cannot comprehend the immorality required of a person that would add to the grief of those parents by denying it happened for the sake of some youtube views and the POTUS has a relationship with him. Alex Jones is one of the most ignorant, insane people on the planet. Not that I'm celebrating this fact, but he just lost custody of his kids and his former spouse used his program as evidence that he's not in his right mind. His lawyers came back and said he was "playing a character." He doesn't come across as very stable to me and uses fear to capture his audience. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Dissecting the 9/11 Truth movement community According to a 2011 analysis in a Skeptical Inquirer article, people involved in this movement, which seemingly is a disparate group with very diversified backgrounds, could be classified into three groups. They join the movement for different reasons, loosely self-assemble to fill different roles and are united by their shared mistrust in experts and the establishment (government and reputable sources of knowledge), and conspiratorial stance. Through their engagement, they each find their own fulfillment and satisfaction. Together, they contribute to the persistence, resilience and exaggerated claims of acceptance (in general public) of the movement. These three groups are: Hard Core: The organizers and active members of the various 9/11 Truth Movement organizations. They produce the information, spot the anomalies and technical inconsistencies, provide the technical base and form the theories. While they claim to be only interested in facts and to use scientific method, they commit the logical fallacy of ‘confirmation bias’ by pre-determining the outcome, then searching for corroborating evidence while ignoring the vast body of peer-reviewed, independent, consensual research which contradict their theories. They supply the physical structure of the movement by organizing events, seminars, discussions, marches and distributing flyers and pamphlets. Their numbers are relatively small but they are tight-knit and highly connected. Their worldview favors ‘super-conspiracy’, a master plan that is behind conspiracies which they believe they are uncovering. Critically turned: They are the young students and political activists whose affiliation with the 9/11 Truth Movement often is rooted from their dissatisfaction and anger at the established political and social order. Their sense of justice and idealism propels them to activism against perceived oppression and social injustice. Their penchant to use Internet, especially social media, and tech savvy make them the propaganda machine for the movement. They produce YouTube videos and films with cool, countercultural content, make good use of pop culture parody and eye-catching graphics. The countercultural street cred of their productions buy them broad appeal and exposure to millions of people. Illiterati: They are the movement's mass membership backbone, a large, diffuse group which give the movement exaggerated claims of popularity and influence. Participation in the 9/11 Truth Movement, to this group of people, is as much a social and recreational pursuit as the quest for truth. Their partaking is mostly through web 2.0 social networking and YouTube. Their commentaries often are emotional and they make no pretense to be accurate, balanced or to show genuine intent to find truth. Involvement with the movement that fit their worldview gives them a sense of identity and belonging, which they find more appealing than the facts and evidences of the 9/11 terrorist attack itself. http://www.csicop.org/si/show/a_bestiary_of_the_9_11_truth_movement_notes_from_the_front_line Sibdane and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) Another one who was actually there, a fireman. Edited June 16, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I give up. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 "10 Thing You Always Wanted to Ask a Flat Earther" https://video.vice.com/en_uk/video/10-questions-youve-always-wanted-to-ask-flat-earther/595b9e47d978e31b73496a2e Interestingly his reason for wanting to believe it seems to be some kind of quasi religious pre-copernican solipsism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 "10 Thing You Always Wanted to Ask a Flat Earther" https://video.vice.com/en_uk/video/10-questions-youve-always-wanted-to-ask-flat-earther/595b9e47d978e31b73496a2e Interestingly his reason for wanting to believe it seems to be some kind of quasi religious pre-copernican solipsism. https://www.livescience.com/24310-flat-earth-belief.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 https://www.livescience.com/24310-flat-earth-belief.html Jesus. If people really believe this shit then they need to get their mental health checked out. This has to be the most ridiculous conspiracy theory ever. This is just plain ignorance! I'm actually angry after reading that and realizing that there are people out there who subscribe to this "theory." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Chach and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Xmas conspiracy to place Jesus in Bethlehem on his birthday? "No satisfactory explanation of the contradiction seems possible on the basis of present knowledge, and most scholars think that the author of the gospel made a mistake" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Chach said: Xmas conspiracy to place Jesus in Bethlehem on his birthday? "No satisfactory explanation of the contradiction seems possible on the basis of present knowledge, and most scholars think that the author of the gospel made a mistake" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius Is that the only part of the Bible that you're not convinced about? Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 36 minutes ago, Bailey said: Is that the only part of the Bible that you're not convinced about? Hay man, I am just trying to keep it seasonal. Obviously I also like the parts like Daniel and revelations where the writers are clearly on magic mushrooms lol Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-18/sandy-hook-families-file-lawsuit-against-infowars-alex-jones/9670096?smid=Page: ABC News-Facebook_Organic&WT.tsrc=Facebook_Organic&sf187218316=1 About time, hopefully he gets owned. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, Chach said: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-18/sandy-hook-families-file-lawsuit-against-infowars-alex-jones/9670096?smid=Page: ABC News-Facebook_Organic&WT.tsrc=Facebook_Organic&sf187218316=1 About time, hopefully he gets owned. He even got owned by Alexa ... to me, still the funniest thing on YouTube. Chach and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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