Toffee_in_LA Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 If Man City (allegedly) offered 30 million for Sterling... then I want at least 50 for our (potential) future captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 If Man City (allegedly) offered 30 million for Sterling... then I want at least 50 for our (potential) future captain. He's not our player and City won't pay that for Phil Jones -_- Toffee_in_LA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 He's not our player and City won't pay that for Phil Jones -_- ? I must admit I am confused... oh I got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 If Man City (allegedly) offered 30 million for Sterling... then I want at least 50 for our (potential) future captain. Yeah I haven't seen any figures float around yet, I'd be interested to see what he's valued at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) The reality of this is that Stones is going either this summer (hopefully not) or next (unless we somehow get top 4). Money talks, and before people start Kenshite'ing here there and everywhere, it's not just us. Spurs and Liverpoo are the same (ish) and they've got got the sought after rich owners - Kane and Sterling will go at the right price. Basically the top 4 of last season have all the power. Only a takeover of Man C / Chelsea proportions or ECL qualification over a sustained period can change this... and this is why I am falling out of love with modern football (sadly I'm obsessed and it won't actually happen!) - something needs to happen though! I've mentioned before that my mate is involved with FC United and obviously a fan. A couple of weeks ago he was brought to tears at the trial opening of their own stadium in a friendly vs Benfica. It's not the glitz and glamour of the EPL but it doesn't stop me being envious of him. Nice fairytale and all, but if they ever reach the big time they'll fall heavily from that high and mighty perch they've put themselves on and be just like every other side. Yeah I haven't seen any figures float around yet, I'd be interested to see what he's valued at. The Echo are reporting that we want more than the current record for a defender, which is the £32m City paid for Mangala. Absolutely no way we're turning down that sort of money. - http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/john-stones-latest-everton-resist-9448876 Edited June 14, 2015 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Nice fairytale and all, but if they ever reach the big time they'll fall heavily from that high and mighty perch they've put themselves on and be just like every other side. They've got the fan base to survive at league 1/2 level - that's before people start hoping on if they were to get league football. Can't see any reason why they can't get at least close to what AFC Wimbledon have done/are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) Keep him this season, watch him get regular first team for England and people will quote £50m. Edited June 14, 2015 by Hafnia Toffee_in_LA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Keep him this season, watch him get regular first team for England and people will quote £50m. 100% this, there isn't another young CB like him and he will only increase In value. Matt, Toffee_in_LA and Kant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Keep him this season, watch him get regular first team for England and people will quote £50m. If he has a good Euros next summer we can name our price (like we did with Rooney ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 They've got the fan base to survive at league 1/2 level - that's before people start hoping on if they were to get league football. Can't see any reason why they can't get at least close to what AFC Wimbledon have done/are doing. You haven't read what I've said right. What I meant is that the higher they go up the tree the more they'll just be like every other side, and become what they claim to be working against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 You haven't read what I've said right. What I meant is that the higher they go up the tree the more they'll just be like every other side, and become what they claim to be working against. Got you... sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Got you... sad but true. It'd be nice if it didn't work that way, but it's just not feasible . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Listened to talk sport whilst sat in the ridiculous A55 traffic this morning. John Terry was interviewed and to my surprise was extremely eloquent and interesting. Danny Murphy asked him about the young players coming through - he said Kane was by "far" the best striker he faced last season and Murphy brough John Stones into the conversation. Murphy as he has stated before likes him alot, John Terry agreed - Terry said the way he splits wide of the area to take the ball out was very impressive, he thinks we have a top top talent. Not sure if there is any mischief in all this, are they trying to big him up for a move? Based on some of the fees bandied around I would not feel cheeky to expect £40m - daft I know but I think some may consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Not sure if there is any mischief in all this, are they trying to big him up for a move? Based on some of the fees bandied around I would not feel cheeky to expect £40m - daft I know but I think some may consider it. I concur. Consistent, young defenders are quite a rare commodity and if you think John is in the same ilk as Rio Ferdinand, i'd expect a similar fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 50 million or anyone interested can fuck off. He will be captain of England one day. 50 is way too mucjh but we don't want to sell so it'll have to be stupid money. Say what you want about Moyes but his transfer dealings were first class. Yes he had some bad ones but some of the deals he done including sales was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I was impressed that Martinez actually made the offer to take him to Wigan before he signed for us, it was well known that our scouting system under Moyes was very good, and to his credit it was. It would be interesting to uderstand how he was identified at Wigan. For my money I actually think that if Moyes was still here we wouldn't have seen as much of Stones, Moyes was always very cautious about using young defenders. Rightly so at times but there were occassions like with Duffy when it wouldn't have done any harm to include him after some solid performances. I don't think Moyes would have been quite as tolerant of Stones "composure" on the ball, he would have hadf a melt down. None the less his last signing could very well be his best. Matt and Toffee_in_LA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I was impressed that Martinez actually made the offer to take him to Wigan before he signed for us, it was well known that our scouting system under Moyes was very good, and to his credit it was. It would be interesting to uderstand how he was identified at Wigan. For my money I actually think that if Moyes was still here we wouldn't have seen as much of Stones, Moyes was always very cautious about using young defenders. Rightly so at times but there were occassions like with Duffy when it wouldn't have done any harm to include him after some solid performances. I don't think Moyes would have been quite as tolerant of Stones "composure" on the ball, he would have hadf a melt down. None the less his last signing could very well be his best. Agree. Look at Mustafi too. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I was impressed that Martinez actually made the offer to take him to Wigan before he signed for us, it was well known that our scouting system under Moyes was very good, and to his credit it was. It would be interesting to uderstand how he was identified at Wigan. For my money I actually think that if Moyes was still here we wouldn't have seen as much of Stones, Moyes was always very cautious about using young defenders. Rightly so at times but there were occassions like with Duffy when it wouldn't have done any harm to include him after some solid performances. I don't think Moyes would have been quite as tolerant of Stones "composure" on the ball, he would have hadf a melt down. None the less his last signing could very well be his best. I doubt Stones would have made a single first-team appearance yet if Moyes was still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I doubt Stones would be the confident young man he appears to be if Moyes was still here. At united Moyes sat with Uniteds defenders - including Rio Ferdinand and asked them to emulate Phil Jagielka - now I love Jags but i'm sorry, Ferdinand was one of the best defenders i've seen, for a good while he was the best in the world. Moyes loved a blood and thunder centre half who got rid. Stones would be destroyed by him. Martinez is the right man for Stones, maybe a little too liberal with him but he will develop quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted June 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Stones, for me, is a bigger prospect that Barkley, Stirling and Kane. Spurs talking £40m plus for Kane, the shite want £50m for Stirling, then if Chelsea want Stones it has to be over £55m in my opinion. Every player has their price, no harm in making it massive. We don't want to sell him, we don't need to sell him, if you want him bring a fucking big bag of cash or don't even bother making a call. Kant, Toffee_in_LA, markjazzbassist and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Stones, for me, is a bigger prospect that Barkley, Stirling and Kane. Spurs talking £40m plus for Kane, the shite want £50m for Stirling, then if Chelsea want Stones it has to be over £55m in my opinion. Every player has their price, no harm in making it massive. We don't want to sell him, we don't need to sell him, if you want him bring a fucking big bag of cash or don't even bother making a call. Agree with this totally. Stones IS the real deal there is no doubt about that in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Stones, for me, is a bigger prospect that Barkley, Stirling and Kane. Spurs talking £40m plus for Kane, the shite want £50m for Stirling, then if Chelsea want Stones it has to be over £55m in my opinion. Every player has their price, no harm in making it massive. We don't want to sell him, we don't need to sell him, if you want him bring a fucking big bag of cash or don't even bother making a call. 100% agree. The reports saying Chelsea think they can get him for £15m are an absolute joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 It must be a different Stones, £15m wouldn't even buy you his mum!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Montana Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ive got a couple of stones in my back garden he can have for £15m! Toffee_in_LA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Happy to see I agree with everyone when putting a high price on Stones. I haven't seen a natural defender have so much potential in quite a while, and he's only going to get better and better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Nope. Do not sell, no matter the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Nope. Do not sell, no matter the price. Everyone has a price mate, we would be mad to turn 50 million down. I wouldn't sell him for a penny less. Nobody will pay that so we'll be ok if we stick to that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Everyone has a price mate, we would be mad to turn 50 million down. I wouldn't sell him for a penny less. Nobody will pay that so we'll be ok if we stick to that anyway. Most people do, his isn't worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Most people do, his isn't worth mentioning. That's why we say 50. Nobody will pay it, if they do then we have stupid money for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 That's why we say 50. Nobody will pay it, if they do then we have stupid money for him.Sterling looks to be going for 50m... Don't care what the price is, he is a "keep at all costs" player Kant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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