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1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

That would only be likely to happen if we were requesting it as our grounds for appeal, and I can't see us doing that.

You could be right. To be fair I'm not 100% sure how the appeal process works legally.

To be fair again, the Premier League obviously don't know how all this is meant to work so I would say virtually anything is possible (apart from the top 6 being handicapped in any way).

1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

Absolutely. That's another reason why I didn't really get why some Everton fans have said we shouldn't have appealed, why some have said now that we're safe we should withdraw the appeal.

The only way I can see us withdrawing the appeal is if Forest don't get anything back from theirs (due to have the verdict any day now).

The only reason I would want us to withdraw the appeal is if there is any chance at all of the 2 points being moved to next season.i.e. the panel decide that hitting Everton twice in the same season isn't "fair" and should be done next season.

29 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

Given we need to sell to raise funds and a few players are out of contract, I’d be happy to see him given a new 1 year deal, he’s only good for 75 mins but they have been outstanding minutes the last few games.

There is a 1yr option for us to extend if we want.

Gana was the best player on the pitch, but gave it to Chermiti as to the role he did at his age was immense.

Great Result, still think our football was far from good, but I'll take any points right now.

I'd be angry if I was Forest on the penalties. The 1st one I think is 50/50. The 2nd could easily of been given handball and 3rd was a pen for me. Tbf we've had similar penalty shouts this season and not got them. 

How Ashley Young wasn't taken off is completely beyond me as was his even starting the match.

We just have to get to the end if this season still in the PL and reset. 

With a few high wages off the books in the summer we have a good chance to properly rebuild.

3 hours ago, RuffRob said:

https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2024/04/08/eef5f482-4d3a-473a-9e38-26f995059377/Premier-League-v-Everton-Decision-FY23.pdf

I have read it as -

3 points deduction for a breach plus 2 point deduction for the magnitute of the breach, deemed 'modest' rather than signficant (£16.6m). So before mitigation factors we have been given 5 point deduction. (Paragraph 180 then 187)

less 2 points becasue of the fact we have already been penilised in over part of this 3 year accounting period (para 206) and

less 1 point for an early plea to PSR breach (Para 260)

So final deduction of 2 points.

We got no consideration for the fact the USM sponsership go pulled due to UK sanctions of Russians or any other financial hit like anything argued towards the stadium. 

We got no consideration for 'exceptional co-operation' - our co-operation level was the 'level expected'. 

We also go no consideration from a sustainable 'New Recruitment Stratergy' that has been implemented at the club.  

 

Wow! I thought they just got a pair of Dice out, rolled them and went with result and then laughed and slapped themselves on the back about what a great deliberation they had as they no doubt got a big cheque for their work as well!

GET ASHLEY YOUNG OFF THE F'ING PITCH!!!

sorry, really needed to get that out my system.

I reckon it's 3 at the back with Young and Myko wingbacks

All I want for this season is we stay up, get new owner/sort finances out and get stadium finished. Some ridiculous big earners should also be off the books (holgate/gomes).

That gives us the platform we need to come back to our best. 

Don't care whether its 0, 6 or 10 points as long as the outcome at the end of the season is we stay up.

Jack Harrison has made such a difference since coming on for Young. Should have happened at half-time.

So much more energy and much better delivery on crosses.

3 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

Need more going forward.

McNeil and Young aren't giving us what we need.

This.

12 minutes ago, badaids said:

State of that kit, it’s like a bucket of cold sick being poured in your eyes every time you see it.

Even a point today would be immense. COYB.

You seem a bit on the fence about the kit mate. Can't you be a bit clearer about whether you like it or not?

RIP Bill and condolences to Patto and the rest of Bill's family.

7 minutes ago, badaids said:

I think he’ll double up young and Coleman on the right. No idea where that leaves us in the middle.

I reckon Harrison behind DCL and Dacoure in mid with Gana

14 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

This is one of the biggest mistakes ever made by the Premier League, and it's going to create a huge backlash. Looking at the situation objectively, there are some positives here...

- Certainty is better than uncertainty. While the decision is extreme, at least we now know what it is and can deal with it.

- It's going to put a huge spotlight on the big teams. I don't see them continuing to get away with their financial shennanigans.

- This is the right time and the right season to face a points deduction since, on the pitch, we're on the up and up.

- If we appeal or even sue for lost TV revenues, it will bring a level of accountability the league has been sorely missing.

Oh how I wish we'd secured three points against Brighton and not just one. We wouldn't even be in the bottom three.

If we'd beaten Brighton what's the bet the deduction would have been 12 points? This all stinks to high heaven.

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We're in Europe next season lads!

That kick in the balls as opposed to the punch in the face is looking more appealing each day this goes on for.

But Can he?

Or is he having Uzun?

6 hours ago, Hafnia said:

I know I don’t but I can’t help it if I am? It’s infuriating, even I wish I was wrong sometimes! 

Now about Blue Bill being not such a bad bloke after all....  

13 hours ago, patto said:

Do you have any other options 

No there doesn't seem to be any other option.

The choice of staying as we are or being bought by 777 is a bit like asking me if I want to be kicked in the balls or punched in the face.

2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

 

Bottom to Middle table mediocrity is it for the foreseeable future then.  There's only really Tottenham as a top half team (but still won nothing) that is run as a successful business.

At least its probably better than where we are today, but far from ideal to me.

3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Don't forget, he isn't happy here and we didn't offer him a good deal.

 

Some good news at last!

1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said:

 

Well we managed just about an hour of positivity to dwell on! 

10 hours ago, Matt said:

Who's playing fat twat football? Because there's no way that blob would've got a team having 25 shots on target in 5 game.

Have a look back how many have won it since the Premier League started. Its been a Manchester club or 2 of the Londons clubs with 3 exceptions in Blackburn, Leicester and that lot. Over 30 years.  So far as I can remember this early in the morning without coffee at least. 

Football has become such a business and this top 4/6 bubble has been a strategy by the league. It keeps the money in fewer pockets, meaning more money for those few. 

With you on the last bit though. I'm not bitter, just numb and disinterested in the game in general

You're probably right Matt overall.

That Arsenal match had me really deflated though. We looked exactly like we did under  Fat Sam. It is one match in isolation though and not fair on Dyche overall.